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- RachelJTM, on 10/15/2009, -0/+33it definitely makes me think twice about ordering things when i see the calorie count!
- jerrolds, on 10/15/2009, -1/+27For people who actually care - like me - having nutrition information in restaurants is for sure value added. Since when is having more information available to you a bad thing?
- inactive, on 10/15/2009, -2/+21Why not just link to the actual article? http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/08/d ...
- starf, on 10/15/2009, -0/+16Even if it doesn't influence the general population's eating habits, it does allow individuals to make that choice for themselves.
Calorie counting does work for some people. - Xaevier, on 10/15/2009, -0/+15Honestly, everything needs a calorie counter next to it. I dropped about 10-15 pounds in 3 months when I actually made an effort to only eat 1800 calories a day.
- rubberduck68, on 10/15/2009, -0/+12I really appreciated it when I was in NYC. Never knew that a slice of bread from Starbucks was over 500 calories!
- RudeTurnip, on 10/15/2009, -0/+10THIS. I had lunch at an Outback Steakhouse in NYC with a friend. When we opened the menu, it read like a horror novel seeing how many calories were in dishes you'd assumed were relatively healthy. You can easily consume over 1,000 calories in what you'd consider a light meal. To minimize calories, we each had he 8oz steak, steamed vegetables and a baked potato (plain), which put each meal at just over 400 calories.
So, yes, in my case this made me think about how I eat. Now when I eat out in NJ (where they don't do this), I am very conscious of how many calories seemingly "lighter" foods may have.
Free markets require informed parties; people should have access to this information so they can vote with their dollars. - madeingermany, on 10/15/2009, -0/+9For myself: Posting calories doesn't make me want to leave the place, but for sure I'm guided to a more healthy choice.
- TAGline, on 10/15/2009, -2/+10Especially since the real article is about 1000% less obnoxious.
- TAGline, on 10/15/2009, -0/+7400 calories isn't bad for a meal at all; I'm actually amazed you got that low at a restaurant so notorious for its high cal count.
Gotta love that bloomin' onion! - Xaevier, on 10/15/2009, -0/+7Waterweight makes it difficult to tell how much you weigh at any one given time.
- jhhudso, on 10/15/2009, -0/+6It's bad for people who want to stick their head in sand without the inconvenience of carrying a bucket of sand around with them all the time.
- Krawkun, on 10/15/2009, -0/+5Totally agree. Just at quiznos today looking at that double cheese cheese steak I was like mmm that looks good but I can get a large turkey sandwich with the same calories as a small cheese steak, I'll go for the turkey.
- madeingermany, on 10/15/2009, -0/+5@TAGline:
Had to look it up again: 2,210 calories and 134 grams of fat.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blooming_onion - Subduction, on 10/15/2009, -0/+5I don't know, all fancy human-behavioral theories aside, isn't more information better on the face of it?
I don't see information as a way of trying to control people, simply as a way of informing them so they can make decisions in knowledge rather than ignorance, irresponsible or otherwise. - ShellShock11, on 10/15/2009, -0/+4There have been times when a calorie count has stopped me from eating something, particularly at movie theaters where the count is insane. But I'm perfectly fine eating a ton when there's no count!
- mrgr8avill, on 10/15/2009, -1/+5HA! As if YOU need to worry about calories! My fat ass, on the other hand... Damn, that burger looks tasty.
- spookyttws, on 10/15/2009, -0/+4I generally know what I like to eat at eat fast food place and how many calories are in it. Because of that I I often just get a sandwich and forgo the fries and drink so that I can enjoy the extra calories in the fat laced burger. Then again, I splurge about once a month and eat an entire days calorie count in one sitting.
- PleaseJustDie, on 10/15/2009, -0/+4I could probably hit that much with a hardy's 6 dollar burger and chillie/cheese fries
- Pentagarn, on 10/15/2009, -0/+4I definitely check it out. I realized I severely underestimated some things I've eaten, like the Peppercorn Burger at Red Robin. 1400 calories by itself, not counting the fries. Damn!
- charlietuna, on 10/15/2009, -0/+4I think it's important to require companies to tell the truth (in normal size print) to people. After that point then one can take responsibilities for one's own actions. I hardly see keeping people honest to be a "liberal" cause.
- jbcsee, on 10/15/2009, -0/+3Knowing what the calorie contents are allow you to make healthy choices. Even if that healthy choice is I'll eat that 1600 calorie sandwich and then go for a four hour bike ride to burn it off.
- ironlung, on 10/15/2009, -0/+3I never used to care, but now I can't see how I ever bought anything without looking at nutritional information, that includes the caloric content and the ingredients. For instance I always thought turkey burgers were healthy but thats not always true. I stopped eating the market fresh sandwiches at Arby's because each one of them is about 800 calories. So for me such information is really useful
- funk49, on 10/15/2009, -0/+3I went to Cheesecake Factory recently and when I read what their calorie counts were, I almost got up and left. Granted, they have huge portions but everything on their menu is between 900-2500 calories. The cheesecakes (one slice!) were 3K+.
- BridgeBurner, on 10/15/2009, -1/+4I don't eat out very often so when I do it's more like a treat, so I'm less likely to care if it's healthy or not; it's not like I'm eating it every day.
- kakwakas, on 10/15/2009, -0/+3I'm usually far more concerned about the OTHER numbers next to menu items...
- SirBruce, on 10/15/2009, -0/+3The study is flawed because it doesn't follow-up on eating habits at home. It's quite possible that people go to a fast food joint, see how high-calorie something is, and then eat a lighter dinner that night at home in response. But you're less likely to see a change AT the restaurant because then that means they would have to order something else and they might prefer what they were going to eat originally.
- smemily, on 10/15/2009, -0/+3Exactly, it gives you a way to measure the food's enjoyability against the caloric cost.
- PleaseJustDie, on 10/15/2009, -0/+2Seeing as I've just recently started counting calories, I have pretty much cut off all restaurant foods as I can't make an informed judgment without spending some time before hand googling the different meals and such to be able to determine what I should eat.
So, yes, I'd like to see calories on the menu. - purkel, on 10/15/2009, -1/+3Calorie info just makes me feel guilty about what I eat.
- deanc, on 10/15/2009, -0/+2totally changes the way i order/eat food. i was stunned at some of the numbers.
i think this should become federal law now and not just in NY. - cntlscrut, on 10/15/2009, -0/+2I agree in the fact that having the nutritional information posted is indeed very helpful but, unfortunately, i have to say i'm afraid that for many human psyche (especially for the obese or the "working on losing weight" folks) many people will see only the calorie count instead of what's actually in the food such as trans fats, etc. and then, "convince" themselves that it's okay because they haven't ate something in n amount of time or for the fact that they walked to the vendor (sometimes, if not most...from their car).
it's sad how that happens - HurricaneDC, on 10/15/2009, -0/+2Yeah, I usually watch what I eat more when the calorie count is posted. I feel more guilty ordering the stuff that I know for sure has a ton of calories. Not to mention if it's with other people, you don't want to seem like a glutton.
Now, there are some foods from restaurants that I'd still eat even with calorie counts because they're just that good. But yeah, for me having that calorie count in my face really makes me think twice about what I order. - JackDaniels88, on 10/15/2009, -0/+2Just out of curiosity, what do you eat in one sitting that adds up to 2500 calories?
- pbgswd, on 10/15/2009, -0/+2my jaw dropped to the floor when I saw the calorie counts at burger king at sea tac airport. almost everything is way over 1000 calories.
- PWoT, on 10/15/2009, -2/+4Buried for linking to some other site with a two-paragraph summary, rather than the actual guy who went through the work of writing the actual interesting information.
http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/08/d ... - smemily, on 10/15/2009, -0/+2Just curious, how are buffets labeled in NY?
- axb156, on 10/15/2009, -1/+31600 calorie sandwhich? It better be 2 feet long or made out of butter and bacon.
- geodebug, on 10/15/2009, -0/+2Even if you don't count every last calorie it can be surprising to see a number next to a food item.
For instance I checked out Taco Bell's volcano burrito (800 calories) and it made me change my mind. - UselessTrivia, on 10/15/2009, -0/+2That's a ***** conclusion. It doesn't alter the number of calories purchased at the current visit but this study did nothing to determine whether the overall number of visits and subsequent calorie counts were lessened.
When you walk into Arby's wanting a roast beef and cheddar, that's what you're going to buy. If you notice it's 900 calories you might think twice about coming back twice a week, but you're still going to get what you came in craving. - thectrain, on 10/15/2009, -0/+2500 Calories really isn't a lot. If you eat 3 meals a day thats only 1500, which is dreadfully low if you are doing any sort of exercise at all. Thats a good way to make sure you feel like crap all day.
5 meals of that 500 calories would still be appropiate for those trying to gain weight. I wouldn't eat 2500, but I wouldn't want to eat much less then 2000 either. - geodebug, on 10/16/2009, -0/+2Right, I guess I meant 500 calories for a single food item, which is a lot. Now once a day it may work in your 1800-2000 calorie limit but still... Besides, something that is 500 calories tends to be more sugar and fat than nutritional calories.
Seems like we all here understand it though. Now, how to teach it to those who need the information? - geodebug, on 10/15/2009, -0/+2I say it has to go along with education. Many people don't know how many calories they should be eating a day. Without that 500 calories could sound like a little or a lot (its a lot). Keep in mind the article said the study was on low income people, who as a group tend not to be as well educated. They are also hit by the financial situation where they can feed their family at McDonalds for much less than what they'd buy at a grocery store. Veggies & fruit are expensive.
The freakanomics blog is awesome. The Seattle Weekly blog is obnoxious and misleading. - Brooks007, on 10/15/2009, -0/+2It works for me... i can now look at food and guess the calories before seeing the label... and i make better food choices based on what i know.
- MrsCake, on 10/15/2009, -0/+2I love the posted calorie counts in NYC. It helped me loose thirty pounds when I moved here. While I believe having the calorie information up is only required for anything considered a chain, it gives you an idea of the massive amounts of calories any resteraunt can pack into innocuous food. I went to a Quiznos elsewhere and got a rather small sandwich, enough for a light lunch. Got back to NYC and found out that something that barely filled me up managed to pack in over 800 calories and an abysmal amount of sodium. Not worth it. If I had known I was having that many calories I just would have eaten 16 slices of bacon. At least that would have been worth it. And delicious.
- kevinsname, on 10/16/2009, -0/+1Shut your HAPPY ass up, you Imbecile.
- SPLASTiK, on 10/16/2009, -0/+1Haha, maybe that's the kind of perspective they should give when you order.
I'll take the #1 with a Root Beer.
Sir, the amount of calories in that meal will take 2 hours of bicycling or 4 hours to walk off all those calories. Are you sure you'd like to purchase that? - inactive, on 10/16/2009, -0/+1Reality does have a liberal bias.
- inactive, on 10/16/2009, -0/+1Depends on who you're talking about and what their metabolism's like. For me, 1800 calories a day and minimal exercise keeps me at my current weight. I tend to go over that and exercise a fair amount, so it still ends up the same. (I'm pretty short with a small build.) 2500 might be a more appropriate number for someone substantially bigger or with a substantially faster metabolism, like my boyfriend - he can get away with four double cheeseburgers for lunch, so insane is his metabolism.
- JigoroKano, on 10/16/2009, -0/+1And poop.
Regression analysis is basically the only way you can tell exactly how much weight you've lost. Most aren't going to go to that much trouble. -
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