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- NicksVideo, on 05/18/2008, -1/+15"Swim away Fugu fish, swim awaaay!"
- blackjack75, on 05/18/2008, -15/+29We've had a few campaigns here in Switzerland to make Foie Gras illegal too. Those are usually started by the same people who want everybody to become vegetarians and criminilaze meat-eaters. Fighting 'animal cruelty' is just a first step. They also drinking a cow's milk is an abomination and so on.
Unfortunately we have a majority of swiss-germans here with little Foie Gras tradition. So it might as well be forbidden some time in the future. I think that's when the french part will demand independance or at least I'll cross the lake secretly at night to follow my nasty instincts :-)
There's a little know secret californians don't know about Foie Gras. It can be delicious. The kind of delicious that makes a duck life worthless. And by the way, the ducks for quality Foie Gras are not fed through metal tubes by machines. They are hand-fed (ok, hand-force-fed) by a woman wearing gloves.
Face it. We do raise these animals in order to kill them to eat them. They are not our pets. If we didn't eat them, we would raise them. In other words, they only exist because we grow them. - franklymister, on 05/18/2008, -5/+17The "slippery slope" argument is a logical fallacy.
Banning animal cruelty is not the same as banning milk production.
I'm not against the idea of eating meat per se - the animal kingdom is a food chain, after all - but there's no need to be barbaric and cruel just so you can stuff your fat face with one more taste. If torturing a kitten made for a "delicious" treat, I suppose someone like you would be first in line. - camilos007, on 05/18/2008, -0/+12"can cause intestinal larval infection or even the risk of larvae jumping into your eye"
Small price to pay for good ol' traditional Maggot Cheese. - PaulOwen, on 05/18/2008, -0/+7Most of these foods are only banned because of political pressure from US food suppliers to ban high value food imports into America.
Believe me, if Californians were able to say that French wine had toxins and should be banned, the FDA would be right on it. - methos75, on 05/18/2008, -1/+8We have Restaurants that cater just to Dogs and premuim health insurance for pets, we most be pretty ***** great.
- lazerus9, on 05/18/2008, -3/+9Real men will just pop a live Puffer Fish in their mouth, swallow it and the goose whole! And swill it down with half a keg of Scrumpy!
you wimps - drgreenberg, on 05/18/2008, -3/+9Except that ducks have calcified esophagial tracts and engorge themselves in a similar manner to the force feeding prior to long migrations. In fact, Foie Gras production merely mimics what ducks do naturally, as discovered by the Egyptians thousands of years ago. Anyone's who's actually visited one of the few Foie Gras farms has seen that the ducks literally run to and swarm around the lady who'll be feeding them. That's not the kind of behavior that suggests the animals are suffering. Sure, they *would* die from liver issues if the process were to go on to long, since the ducks would naturally stop before this point in a natural environment. However, the ducks don't get to this point because they are killed to be eaten. So, the only step in the process that's really being protested here is the killing of animals for food. The Foie Gras battle is just an easy battle front (low lying fruit) for those who'd like to see all animal consumption cease.
- franklymister, on 05/18/2008, -8/+14“The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated”
-Mahatma Gandhi - franklymister, on 05/18/2008, -10/+15It's not a zero sum game. You can care about more than one thing in this world, you know.
- semon, on 05/18/2008, -3/+8Before spitting on foie gras processing you should check on how the fast food meat are produce (and compare production figures). This is a bit hypocritical, all of this because this is a luxury dish.
- Typhoon2009, on 05/18/2008, -0/+5That puffer fish looks so cute.
- wacomwacoff, on 05/18/2008, -0/+5Lobster is not "forbidden", it's just not sold live at one chain of stores. Fail.
Absinthe is not "forbidden", it's legally sold in the United States.
Haggis is not "forbidden", it's just part of the import ban on Scottish sheep products (from the BSE scare).
Terrible, misleading list. Bad info. Buried. - dazparkour, on 05/18/2008, -1/+6I am Scottish and I would like to say Haggis is not shunned around MY country. Maybe the summery should say "In America" instead of "The Country".
PS: Haggis is great. Who wants some? - blackjack75, on 05/18/2008, -0/+4Coming from a guy born in a country where vegetarianism has been traditionnally everywhere and cows are considered sacred...
Again, depending on where you were born perspectives are very different. Many englishmen usally don't eat horse or rabbit so they are horrified when we eat the cute rabbits or the knight's horse. Arabs on the other hand would be disgusted at the sight of a Brit eating bacon.
We're all different. - niczar, on 05/18/2008, -0/+4It's made from both, genius.
- clippypog, on 05/18/2008, -0/+4enough with the forbidden foods already! theyv'e made the internet rounds!
- jimmy17, on 05/18/2008, -0/+4"Chaaarlie, Chaaaaaaaarlie"
- magamiako, on 05/18/2008, -2/+6Funny thing is, the more PETA and the like argue against having foods such as Foie Gras, the more people that will want to eat it. Just like Absinthe. If people have heard of it, they want to drink it. (Though it really is much like most other liquors except it actually takes time to prepare. It is a little light in weight when drinking compared to something like JD)
- Albukaki, on 05/18/2008, -0/+4Life without haggis, neeps 'n' tatties would be hollow. Nowadays you'll only tend to get haggis in sheeps stomach around Burns Night. Most of the year it's sold in a plastic 'skin', unless you go to a decent butcher. You can get veggie haggis too, which is very nice and doesn't have the issue of brain rot attached. We have whisky for that anyway. : )
- inactive, on 05/18/2008, -1/+5You're assuming that people who want foie gras banned eat fast food.
I'm a hunter and I wouldn't buy foie gras. And I don't eat fast food either.
Some people respect conscious beings, some don't.
Considering that respect for conscious beings only exists in civilized societies, starting with antiquity, I would suggest that people who don't respect conscious beings are simply degenerates.
And making the argument that consciousness doesn't require any respect involves denying all human rights to the mentally challenged, please make that argument.
Torturing animals is not a sacrifice on my integrity I'm ready to make to eat something that tastes good. - Hangly, on 05/18/2008, -0/+3The ban on sassafras is complete *****. You can cause cancer in rats by giving them practically anything in high enough concentrations.
- atbnet, on 05/18/2008, -2/+5Good arguement, but I am curious as to what MSG has to do with anything? That ***** just gives me a headache.
- dstz, on 05/18/2008, -2/+5So it's cool to forbid 15 people to eat foie gras, and then let 300 millions Americans eat 50 times more hormone cows than what's medically advised (which is 1 pound of meat a week)... we can totally see the logic here:
-Grand scale animal cruelty for providing far too much meat to the most overweight people/country on earth: good
-Delicacy eaten in small proportion by fit people: omg forbid!
We'll see when they forbid you your activity of choice, hunting, thanks to the same heavy hypocrisy that you're using here. Enjoy while it lasts. - dazparkour, on 05/18/2008, -0/+3There are many recipes, most of which have in common the following ingredients: sheep's 'pluck' (heart, liver and lungs), minced with onion, oatmeal, suet, spices, and salt, mixed with stock, and traditionally boiled in the animal's stomach for approximately three hours.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haggis
I've never come across sausages in haggis before, it isn't even from the right animal. - ElectricKetchup, on 05/18/2008, -2/+5>>I really don't care either way, there are more important things to be concerned about in this world besides a duck with a tube down it's throat.
Just because there are worse things in this world, don't give up on the ducks. You shouldn't focus all your concern on one issue. - spiritflare1, on 05/18/2008, -0/+3http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casu_marzu
- wacomwacoff, on 05/18/2008, -0/+3I haven't seen "Bucket List", but you're probably talking about Kopi Luwak coffee -- the beans get digested by a small weasel and are brewed after being picked out of its poop. Yes, it's real.
- edzilla, on 05/18/2008, -1/+4Ever checked how the cow was treated to get that cheeseburger' "meat"?
- BlueCadenza, on 05/18/2008, -0/+2That'll show him to never use rationality and sense on me again.
/wasnt me - thetopcrusader, on 05/18/2008, -0/+2There's no stopping the Vortex, Charlie! Fuguuuuuu!
- preban, on 05/18/2008, -1/+3Maybe a new way of leaving people alone is necessary for you.
- wacomwacoff, on 05/18/2008, -2/+4Apparently you don't respect conscious beings enough to stop killing them for the fun of it.
Pardon me if I find your argument extremely hypocritical. - kamisama, on 05/18/2008, -3/+5"Those are usually started by the same people who want everybody to become vegetarians and criminilaze meat-eaters." Hmm, no, I'm all for eating good meat, but that doesn't mean they have to torture the animal before it reaches the plate. That's why i'm against foie gras. (btw i'm not going to protests against it, let's just say i won't shed a tear if they ever make the practice illegal)
- dazparkour, on 05/18/2008, -0/+2Article: "then boiled in the animal's stomach, though modern versions sometimes use artificial casings." This is wrong - almost ALL recipes use a fake plastic skin instead of a real stomach. Not that it makes it any more or less cruel anyway, it's dead and it is making use of parts that would have otherwise been discarded without treating the animal any different than if it was being raised to be chops.
- happyfundave, on 05/18/2008, -4/+6I didn't even realize there was an initiative to ban lobster, that tasty tasty crustacean. Its only on the list because people feel the need to anthropomorphize everything. F U peta you stupid hypocrite group!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMJVnTYxHVc - Gir53457, on 05/18/2008, -2/+4Not only is he a prick, he's a stupid prick. MSG is only used in cheap-ass Americanized Chinese restaurants that server you what's basically made up to fool us into thinking it's authentic. Real Chinese food, or at least a good Chinese restaurant does not need MSG to artificially enhance flavor.
- Wakkyweed, on 05/18/2008, -1/+3Drgreenberg hits the nail right on the head in his post. I'm a chef, and I've been to a farm/restaurant in Toulouse that specialized in Foie Gras. The ducks and geese there would all waddle over and wait patiently for their turn to be fed. None of them appeared to be stressed out or harmed in any way. Also, adult ducks feed their young in exactly the same way as the Foie Gras farmers. Does this mean that the mother ducks are cruel to their offspring?
- dstz, on 05/18/2008, -2/+4Indeed. What if I eat the most freackingly delicious fresh foie gras scallops once or twice a year and eat mostly greens, lentils, rice, eggs, milk, a little chicken, sardines, etc.. the rest of the year and am not a big fat meat eating person like most diggers, I'm sure?
Say, compare me with YOU. I don't eat hamburgers. I'm not responsible for all the sickly cows in those huge farms, i'm just loving my delicious small farm foie gras sometimes. You want to forbid me that? because it would be cruel? did you see how cows are put to death lately? or how and where they live? and pork?
Look at you, people, and let those with 'junk food free' and working taste buds enjoy themselves sometime. - mal1964, on 05/18/2008, -0/+28. Foie Gras Chicago, I was The Food and Beverage director for all Hyatt Hotels in Illinois between 2000-2004 and this was argued many times and got finally got banned 2006, I believe its now overturned.
- franklymister, on 05/18/2008, -0/+2You missed the point.
We can't communicate with animals, we can't know with certainty what they think or what they feel. In civilization (as opposed to the wild), they are at our mercy.
We have no reason to treat them well at all. If we do, it shows that we have evolved as a society.
Murderers and sociopaths often start their decline by abusing animals as children. It's a sign that the person has no empathy for others. If you choose to abuse animals who are more vulnerable than you, because you can get away with it, then what do your morals say about abusing a person who is helpless, or who can't communicate with you?
If it's ok to torture animals, then why not condone it on humans? Where do you draw the line, and why? - jthebrain5, on 05/18/2008, -0/+2What about ortolan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ortolan_Bunting ? I came to the comments just to see if anyone else mentioned this.
- 32bytes, on 05/18/2008, -0/+2From the article:
"5. Sassafras The dried root bark of the sassafras tree native to North America has been used for centuries for making tea, as a painkiller and as a seasoning for Creole soups and stews. The bark contains an oil called safrole, which the FDA banned for use as an additive in 1960 because studies linked the consumption of safrole to liver cancer in rats. Since then the United States has banned the sale of any ingestible product that contains more than a small amount of safrole. The root bark extract and leaves are now treated commercially to produce a safrole-free product that provides sassafras flavor without the health risks. "
They didn't told the whole story,safrole is a precursor of MDMA aka extasis.
Notice the D in FDA. - patcito, on 05/18/2008, -2/+4You're killing animal for fun but you're against Foie Gras?
- Damien2101, on 05/18/2008, -1/+3I agree with tubaman. Lobster? I'm a coastal new englander and the chances are good that if someone told us we couldn't have lobster, they'd be killed on the spot. You do not ***** around with our seafood here. =P
- inactive, on 05/18/2008, -0/+2I only eat Chineese food in Chinatown and I always explicitly inform them that I want it authentic shanghai style cooking.
- aserer511, on 05/18/2008, -0/+2So when Yosemite Sam was referencing sasafras, he was secretly trying to get kids to acquire liver cancer! damn you warner bros!
- niczar, on 05/18/2008, -1/+3The noise about foie gras is completely ridiculous, because ALL other farm animals raised for slaughter are treated at least as bad. I've visited a goose farm once, it didn't look remotely as repugnant as your average pig farm.
- inactive, on 05/18/2008, -1/+3I don't kill animals for fun, I kill animals for food.
I kill animals who live in the wild and who live a free life, eating what they are supposed to eat, instead of buying that hormone packed ***** that has been tortured for its entire life. -
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