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- DCdigging, on 11/04/2009, -0/+34Beer here in Utah is 3.2. ***** lame.
- sHockz, on 11/04/2009, -4/+32well, wine is about 14-15% alcohol content, and spirits alcohol content is extremely high comparatively and its legal...i dont see the real issue.
if anything i would think the higher alcohol content would detract from the beers flavor, as ~8% beers tend to have that alcohol taste starting to overbear the beers natural flavors. i am sure that some great high % beers are out there though, and i would love to try them :) - hokie47, on 11/04/2009, -1/+26As long as it is clearly labeled and understood by the patron that this is not your normal beer it should be allowed. The only problem I have seen from drinks like these is people think they can drink 2 or 3 of these "beers" and still drive. Many people don't understand alcohol % just like they don't understand how much a few extra % points will make on the credit card or mortgage bill.
- thesinner, on 11/04/2009, -0/+24Why is the state mandating alcohol content anyway? I don't recall needing protection from beer.
- notfaded1, on 11/04/2009, -1/+20It's about freakin' time! Geeze time people wake up and understand that craft beer is the new wine. I say bring on the Double IPA's and Barleywines and time to educate the old fogies on how the best beer in the world is from the USA craft brew movement. Props go out to Sam Adams, Rogue, Sierra Nevada, and Stone for bringing us some other than the usual shart your pants crudwiser amen. :}
- versualize, on 11/04/2009, -0/+16IT'LL GET YOU DRUNK
http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/index.jhtml?vi ... - sentry21, on 11/04/2009, -1/+16I'd rather drink water.
- ShadyG, on 11/04/2009, -0/+11It works fine when the beer itself is brewed to have bold flavors. I can't say as I've tried 16% beer, but Stone Old Guardian* barley wine is typically 12% (depending on the year). I can definitely taste the alcohol as a more dominant flavor than my usual 5.4% pale ale, but the bolder malt and hop flavor blend with it well.
* - looking at my post history, even I would suspect I'm actually a shill for Stone Brewery. Honestly, I'm just a fanboy. - gobbleplex, on 11/04/2009, -2/+13You've never had belgian beers, I see.
- Pkh42987, on 11/04/2009, -0/+10Does anyone else just see this as a cultural problem in the US? Honestly Id much prefer less government control over this (and many other things, but that's beside the point) and them to rather try to inform people of the pro's and con's of drinking. Is this just me?
- MWeather, on 11/04/2009, -0/+9Simple solution: don't drive if you've been drinking. Then you don't have to figure out if you've had too many.
- meninostongue, on 11/04/2009, -1/+10Most bars around here will serve stronger beers in smaller portions... if it is 9%+ then you may get a 10-12oz glass rather than a pint glass. A serving is still more or less a serving regardless of what you order.
- bemenaker, on 11/04/2009, -2/+11I don't remember USAToday being so conservative. Tell me the facts, I'll make my own opinion.
- codyman, on 11/04/2009, -0/+8you can blame the Mormons for that one... hate to point fingers but in this case it's true
- MarkOfTheDead, on 11/04/2009, -1/+9lol substance abuse experts.
Are these the same retards that tell you marijuana is worse for you than tylenol? - MWeather, on 11/04/2009, -1/+9If the rest of the world has better beer, they sure as hell aren't shipping it here. Imports are generally batter than the big brand domestics, but they suck compared to our craft brews.
About the only widely available import I prefer to domestic craft brews is Chimay, but that's $10 a bottle. I could get 3 bottles of something from Stone for that. - rancemo, on 11/04/2009, -0/+8I had a Dogfish Head 120 Minute IPA last year. 20% abv and the best $12 bottle of beer I've ever had! Just wish it was available more often.
- askantik, on 11/04/2009, -0/+7I don't understand why ABV of beer is even an issue when you have hard liquors. Downing stouts is much harder than downing a 3% beer anyway.
- DCdigging, on 11/04/2009, -2/+9Fortunately our THC levels remain above average.
- richardiscool, on 11/04/2009, -0/+7Newcastle? Belgian? Can we just think about that statement logically for a second?
- mkriss5681, on 11/04/2009, -0/+6How is this any different or worse than a beer and a shot? I fully support stronger beer.
- non00b, on 11/04/2009, -0/+6Duvel is a good example of a strong but very drinkable beer. Check out the trappist ones as well (I find chimey is the easiest to find). They are quite drinkable for the potency.
- Raian, on 11/04/2009, -0/+6Sorry it sounds great in theory-- but here in Canada I can attest there is not the same binge drinking problem here as there is in the US.
After a couple pints-- you will have had enough... If you binge drink, you will learn your lesson very quickly and not do it again.
You can become an alcoholic from drinking mouthwash... it doesn't really matter what the alcoholic content is in what you are drinking... an addiction is an addiction-- and this is all about money.
Why wouldn't you want to spend less on beer? Drink less? There is only so much alcohol you can drink until you fall over and pass out... so why not spend less doing it (if that's your aim).
The adage: the road to hell is paved with good intentions applies to this topic. - bdbr, on 11/04/2009, -0/+6I don't see any reason to get in a dick-measuring contest with other countries when it comes to beer.
The big soft beer breweries are primarily owned by non-US companies, and craft beer *is* American beer now. - thebreach, on 11/04/2009, -0/+5That is idiotic, beer at 12-16% is no more potent than wine or liquor.
And the higher the content goes the harsher and more expensive the beer gets, so I doubt everyone and their mother would stop drinking their usual Bud Light in favor of it. - sHockz, on 11/04/2009, -1/+5uhh.....obviously? what's your point?
if for some reason you think people are going to slam down 6packs of 16% alcohol content beer just like their miller light and bud light's, your mistaken. a typical american lager is about 5%, so the proposed beers would be 3x as potent.
also, wine glasses are used to decant the wine, not because wine is exclusive to wine glasses by some industrial standard. the wine has to have a higher surface area in order to let fresh oxygen mix with it in order to "open the wine up" in terms of flavor. also, wine glasses will show you the wine legging a lot better as well. - ajg199, on 11/04/2009, -0/+4It's hard to get drunk on 3.2
- errik03, on 11/04/2009, -0/+4"substance-abuse experts" thats me YYYYEEeeaaaa
- captainaviator, on 11/04/2009, -0/+4not much of a difference
- youannoyme, on 11/04/2009, -0/+3Anyone with good taste will rave about stone. I miss living in striking distance of their brewery...
- freebird09, on 11/04/2009, -0/+3Sam Adams Utopia = holy grail
- sentry21, on 11/04/2009, -0/+3YOU'LL BE F***ING FAT CHICKS IN NO TIME
- non00b, on 11/04/2009, -0/+3neither is strong beer at quality establishments. At a local microbrew all the stronger beer are served only in half pints, or can even be ordered in a 4oz sniffer if desired. Quality strong beer is normally much more expensive to make as well, and the portion/price reflects this.
Trust me you don't want to drink a pint of imperial india pale ale or barley wine anyway, it would be overwhelming. - tdubs, on 11/04/2009, -0/+3One of my favorites: Tripel Horse, it's 10% ABV and very delicious
http://www.riverhorse.com/our_beer/our_beer_tripel ... - lnxfi, on 11/04/2009, -0/+3I was drinking at a bar once when I was away on business. I decided to get their local lager. It was 13%... I had no idea until my third when I had no idea why I felt as drunk as I was. That was a bad rest of the day.
- bdbr, on 11/04/2009, -0/+3Most of the really good craft beers have higher alcohol than your standard cheap beer, but typically they're in the 6-10% range. Beers that drinkers consider the best in the world are usually in that range.
There are beers that have *much* higher alcohol content, but they're not very prevalent. I don't think anyone can drink one of those and not know its high in alcohol. - illinest, on 11/04/2009, -0/+3coming from a guy who has brewed his own, it takes special steps to brew a beer that strong and it'll most likely be reflected in the price.
it seems that MADD is concerned that the frat boys that typically can't afford to pay more than 15 dollars a case will 'accidentally' buy a 50 dollar case of high alcohol content beer and get three times as drunk.
in other words, the high price is all the label you need. - stonebear, on 11/04/2009, -0/+3I beg to differ: People who drink tend to be keenly aware of how much kick they are paying for.
- codyman, on 11/04/2009, -0/+3Stone Double Bastard - if you live anywhere near the San Diego vicinity I recommend you take their brewery tour as its awesome, and you can also get growlers filled on the cheap there as well
- asnider, on 11/04/2009, -0/+3It depends on how the beer is brewed. If it's high in alcohol because it was brewed for the sole purpose of getting you *****, yeah, it's going to taste pretty bad. But, a lot of beers are high in alcohol because of the way that they are brewed (i.e.: it's a result, but it wasn't the primary aim). These beers tend to taste really good and, often, you can't detect the high alcohol content by taste alone.
- ArmandoM, on 11/04/2009, -0/+3What's the average? 5.5% or so? I think high alcohol content is accurate.
- meninostongue, on 11/04/2009, -0/+2Don't worry York, I'm not trying to challenge your status as the alpha drinker, I'm just conveying my local bar customs. You can still be way awesomer at beer than me.
- gobbleplex, on 11/04/2009, -0/+2Leffe isn't bad, and Duvel is pretty good as well. I have to agree with non00b though, that the Trappist ales are excellent. I'm most fond of Trappist Rochefort 10.
Also, though it isn't Belgian, there is a Dutch Trappist beer Konings Hoeven that hides its alcohol incredibly well. You can easily drink the Trippel without much of a hint of the alcohol. - PenguinChaser, on 11/04/2009, -0/+2I'll drink to that!
- dasbrewer, on 11/04/2009, -0/+2GLBC is awesome. Nosferatu, Blackout Stout, and Edmund Fitzgerald!
- notfaded1, on 11/04/2009, -0/+2No offense intended just because there are so many great beers coming from the US now doesn't mean greats aren't still coming out in Belgium, Germany, etc. The more the merrier! I love a good Belgian Tripple and hittin' the Spaten Oktoberfest.
- MWeather, on 11/04/2009, -0/+2Black? That wasn't the IPA. All the beer from the Dogfish Head is good, though.
- pussnuts, on 11/04/2009, -0/+2@ shockz
Let me slow it down for you: Remember the alcohol unit calculator? 1 beer = 1 glass of wine = 1 shot of spirits?
This is used as a guideline by many to regulate alcohol consumption.
Obviously the problem isn't that an alcoholic beverage around 16% ABV is being sold. The problem is that the beverage is being labeled as beer when there is no box/can/bottle to read the alcohol quantity per unit. - tj111, on 11/04/2009, -0/+2I wouldn't say the US is the best, but I'm damn glad that at least we can compete with the best of the best. Growing up in Cleveland has done wonders for my beer appetite, as the Great Lakes Brewing Company (still my favorite craft brewer) really opened my eyes to the world of beer and moved me past all the pilsners the majority of people drink (not saying there aren't good pilsners out there).
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