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- hobbers, on 10/12/2007, -7/+44Yea, they show cute pictures of little chicks, bunnies, piggies. But do you ever stop and think about all the plants you're murdering? Huh? Do you? You sicken me ... plant murderer.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+39yeah, why dont they just grow chunks of meat/fish without all the useless bits.. they can grow human livers now so they must be able to do a good steak.
- detroitsux, on 10/12/2007, -7/+41@tinker123: I hear vegetarians are delicious!
- WickedDrag0oN, on 10/12/2007, -3/+35its time for fish cloning
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+36Wow, yesterday when a study for this made front page on Digg it said 2050, so every day we go two more years worth of fish dissapear! at that rate there will be no more fish in another 16 days!
- detroitsux, on 10/12/2007, -4/+32Absolutely. Like anyone could taste the difference.
- Buttercup, on 10/12/2007, -2/+26its about time! i want my three-eyed tuna maki!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21Geez, I better start eating more sushi before it runs out.
- SkeletaLlama, on 10/12/2007, -6/+23Vegetarian diets are great for ecological sustainability but have you seen how unhealthy your average vegan looks? I've seen more lively chemo patients.
- gmurray, on 10/12/2007, -11/+28Going veg is a good option. I'll go veg in 2048.
- SkeletaLlama, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19Who wants to open a fish farm with me and get rich like oil tycoons?
- Zippo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13そうんな！:(
- crazywarthog, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Same scam ... different generation !
In ten years all important animal life in the sea will be extinct. Large areas of coastline will have to be evacuated because of the stench of dead fish.
—Paul Ehrlich, Earth Day (1970) - deepsub, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Sushi != Fish
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sushi
"Sushi as an English word has come to refer to the complete dish (rice together with toppings); this is the sense used in this article. The original term Japanese: 寿司 sushi (-zushi in some compounds such as makizushi) in the Japanese language refers to the rice, not the fish or other toppings."
/dated someone from Japan - TheOther1, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13Mowing is Murder!
- jus1haz2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10lol, thats the spirit
- ryanguill, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12There is a place in this world for all of God's creatures. Right next to the mashed potatoes.
- Alisic, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9We have to call Jack Bauer.
- FTLJohnson, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11Then it's not innacurate by your own words... It's simply more interesting. Sounds like someone is jealous of a creative title writer... Oh, and swordfish and crab are both used for sushi.
- missflibbles, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Two words for you: Fatty tuna.
'nuff said. - MackPaddy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Thank You. Finally some body with some sense. I’m tired of the ***** scare tactics people use for ratings, sales, and political agendas. The world is not that scary a place people...everyone just wants you to think it is.
- jasonshaffer, on 10/12/2007, -8/+14If God didn't want us to eat animals, He wouldn't have made them out of meat.
- Homunculiheaded, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5You may not have noticed butDigg is actually in a time voretx. Every 12 hours it completely repeats itself, rather than fight it I think we should study this phenoma and see if we can't make use of this time marvel! You'll know we've succeed once a reply occurs earlier in time than the comment.
- smellinator, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7@lordmetroid:
As the article mentioned, without major changes in human seafood consumption patterns, we'll run out. So if you and everyone who lives for sushi would just stop eating it, then there will be plenty left for those of us who hate it. - UGM2099, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4If you had to go all-Unagi wouldn't you get tired? It's my favorite too but I need the other fishes in the sea.
- relaxiknwarchie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4The company I am a R&D tech for makes products for tracking fish populations.
www.Vemco.com
just in the last 5 years our amount of sales have doubled with major research being done world wide with a huge study from California to Alaska. Soon on the east coast from Newfoundland to past Florida.
We work very closely with biologists and they are all worried that this is a major problem and the need to study migration habits and populations is urgent. - squidfood, on 10/12/2007, -2/+61. Problem with farming/cloning. You have to feed them. If you feed them smaller fish, you have to catch the smaller fish somewhere, and then you run out of smaller fish, while making the process far less efficient. If you feed them cornmeal, well, it's ok for a midwesterner's BBQ but boy, you can taste the difference. And ick. (Have sampled fish fed differently many times).
2. Real model: supply goes down. Demand goes up. Price goes sky high. Fishing becomes very, very lucrative. The last fish becomes so expensive it becomes worth new technology to catch. And then because of protections, the last fish in the world ends up caught, funneled through organized crime (actually happening in Russia, South Africa, very well documented). Sold to someone rich in east Asia, same sort of person using powdered rhino horn.
- jackal230, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Hah, vegetarians are spoonfed lies, and then they go out and preach them to others. Eating meat is as natural as it gets. Not made for meat consumption? What have we been doing the past thousands of years? Hunting and gathering, not farming. Meat has always been a great source for protein/nutrients.
And, we can eat raw meat by the way. It's just that the discovery of fire changed the way we eat our food. If your a vegetarian, its your choice; just don't claim that its better than an omnivorous diet. - somnus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4You mean shellfish *****. Ah haha! ...
- jasimo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Is overfishing a problem? Yes.
Are the oceans' ecosystems being damaged? Yes.
Will some/multiple species never recover/be driven to extinction? Yes.
Will supply and demand moderate the damage? Yes.
Should we take some steps (fishing quotas, outlaw shark definning, long line fishing indiscriminate netting, etc) now, before things get worse? Makes sense. - toppgun, on 10/12/2007, -7/+10I think being a vegetarian is a personal choice. You may want others to not eat meat for some reason, but it is our choice. Americans eat way too much meat compared to the rest of the world (also eat too much in general). I enjoy a good steak or chicken but I also enjoy a good plate of pasta or a salad.
Our bodies are made to eat meat. For thousands of years, our ancestors survived eating uncooked meat and raw vegetables. Our bodies are not made to process refined carbohydrates and processed foods. I think very few people follow the diet our bodies are supposed to follow, but eating meat is human nature.... and its tasty
I dont really like fish. Bad experience with a friend hiding a fish in my house. Smell made me swear off fish for a long time - angryredplanet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Not only fish but land animals, plants, ecosystems and eventually ourselves. The resources we have on this planet are finite - they have bounds. To think that we can live, multiply our species in an uncontrolled way and expect that everything else will sort itself out is to have ones head buried in the sand.
We can expect a lot more of these sorts of crises in the near future. - CedEx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4If you're a creationist, not to worry, God will just conjure up some new creatures.
- trghpy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Blame Mom!!! :) (just another futurama reference)
# Mom: "It's those damned anchovies! That dirtbag Fry must know their secret, and I won't rest until I get my hands on them. No one messes with Mom." *laughs maniacally, sons join*
Son: "Quiet, you!"
# Mom: "A single drop of the anchovy's natural oil would lubricate ten robots permanently."
Son: "Wow, it's a shame they went extinct." - theXwarXwon, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5geez people... why all the vegan bashing? we're all in this together!
It takes far more resources to produce meat than it does to produce vegetables. eating vegetarian/vegan eases the strain on the environment, and you don't have to worry so much about getting your arteries clogged. I became a vegetarian for health reasons, but there are plenty of other good reasons to not eat meat. That doesn't mean you have to be a preachy liberal douche about it either.
This article may not be 100% accurate, and may even incorporate some fear-mongering, but with all of the fish we're taking out of the ocean on a daily basis, it can't be having a good effect on things overall. I think that's what we need to be taking away from this. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+10Dupe. Same story on front page yesterday...
*sigh... bury away. - vikingcoder, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Because whalers stopped short of driving whales to extinction solely due to economic conditions... right?
Humanity has never hunted an animal to extinction for commercial purposes, correct?
Passenger pigeon, Dodo, Moa, Caribbean Monk seal, Steller's Sea Cow
All were hunted to extinction for a foodstuff. The passenger pigeon was thought to be an inexhaustible supply. - crazywarthog, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5 If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder by the year 2000. … This is about twice what it would take to put us in an ice age.
—Kenneth E.F. Watt on air pollution and global cooling, Earth Day (1970) - relaxiknwarchie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Http://www.vemco.com/
- Alisic, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Actually, dolphins are mammals. Tasty ones though.
- Asystole, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Dugg for truth. It's nice to finally see a voice of reason on here. It's pretty much universally accepted (not just by animal rights groups) that modern production of meat (not talking about fish specifically) puts a huge strain on the environment. Take beef for example: 10 kg of feed and 100,000 (yes, one hundred thousand) litres of water are required to produce ONE KILOGRAM of beef. This is from "The Rough Guide to Ethical Shopping", which quotes the 100,000 litres of water figure as coming from a study by D Pimentel and published in Bioscience, and the 10 kg of feed figure as coming from the non-partisan Council for Agricultural Science and Technology. I'm not even going to get into the issues of animal suffering.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2As the quality of comments in this dupe is so *****, I thought I might as well copy one of my comments from the original thread on this subject. Warning: serious comment ahead, not a single mention of Kobayashi:
"Actually this isn't news. It has been long known that some 90% of larger fish, the "game fish", in the oceans are already gone: http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science/05/14/coolsc.disappearingfish/index.html ) and the fishing industry has jumped from species to species, crashing each.
Today the fishing industry is turning to fish living in the deep sea, at depths of several thousand meters, not because they're good or easy to catch, but because that's what left.
Unfortunately deep sea fishes grow very slowly, and are completely unable to withstand industrial fishing: http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn8533
and will soon be depleted too. Enjoy your Hoki, it wont last.
Also, the fishing of the deep sea fishes is not just destructive against the fish:
http://www.digg.com/environment/Ancient_coral_reefs_of_the_deep_sea_threatened_by_trawling
After the large deep sea stocks are depleted, the fishing industry will turn to invertebrates, mainly krill. As of right now there's still millions of tonnes of krill around, but when industrial fishing descends on it in earnest...
Meanwhile, the destruction of the large predators and the plankton eating fish has meant that some animals which normally would be kept in check, are not:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5573968
These are animals humans wont eat. At least not yet.
If you want a bright side to this, it's that industrial fishing generally doesn't extinguish species - it decimates them to a level where it no longer is financially viable to fish them, so if the world ever manages to get a sane fishing policy, it may be possible to recover most of the species.
The exception is, again, those "game fishes", like tunas and sailfish - they're valuable to the last individual, and do risk extinction." - jasimo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2wildjohn999: "you hippie, anti-business, anti-life, anti-everything douches"
Wow. That's quite a line, though I'm not sure I qualify: I have an MBA from the McCombs School of Business at the University of Texas.
Borlaug is amazing and worthy of all the accolades he's received, but modifying wheat and other land-based food sources doesn't address the ocean which we are currently depleting in an unsustainable manner.
"Asia consumes a hell of a lot more fish than the world combined, do you think that as a people they will let one of their staples decline?"
Um, yes. Asia isn't one big person. Individuals (ie fishermen, definners, whalers) often act in a selfish manner -- despite its larger negative impact -- if it increases their income. Fish stocks and catches have ALREADY declined markedly; ask a commercial fisherman. Do some research on it. - jiminoc, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5yes, perhaps your complete ignorance on the subject? that smells to me
- av4rice, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Can't believe it took ~100 comments before someone pointed this out
- ethnicman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2the dolphin steak he is refering to is the fish commonly known as Mahi-Mahi. It is a dolphin fish not to be confused with porpoises. see this link
http://www.ocean.udel.edu/mas/seafood/mahi.html - paku, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Not in my lifetime!! hahahahhahahah
/going to order a Tuna roll and throw it out - BufordT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Habitat restoration, pollution reduction and a slowdown in climate change will also be key factors in reversing current trends, he adds."
We should slow climate change because all of the fish-able species in the ocean miraculously showed up at the same time as man? Evidently there is no way they (and the species they evolved from) survived all of the climate change in the last couple billion years or so. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Anchovies were extinct long before Mom came into existence.
- jasimo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"you hippie, anti-business, anti-life, anti-everything douches"
Wow. That's quite a line, though I'm not sure I qualify: I have an MBA from the McCombs School of Business at the University of Texas.
Borlaug is amazing and worthy of all the accolades he's received, but modifying wheat and other land-based food sources doesn't address the ocean which we are currently depleting in an unsustainable manner.
"Asia consumes a hell of a lot more fish than the world combined, do you think that as a people they will let one of their staples decline?"
Um, yes. Asia isn't one big person. Individuals (ie fishermen, definners, whalers) often act in a selfish manner -- despite its larger negative impact -- if it increases their income. Fish stocks and catches have ALREADY declined markedly; ask a commercial fisherman. Do some research on it. -
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