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- cougar618, on 07/30/2008, -1/+45Texas will not stand for this.
- westbay1, on 07/30/2008, -0/+22I just added something to my favorites about alternative energy financing... I'm glad to see that banks and lenders are putting investment dollars to good use, rather than funding fraudulent sub-prime mortgages. DUGG for going green!
- 9966, on 07/30/2008, -6/+20I planned to set up a wind farm in Oregon, but I caught dissentary and died.
- inactive, on 07/30/2008, -4/+17Go green!
- PabloMac, on 07/30/2008, -0/+8O R E G O N Rocks!
- treehugger87, on 07/30/2008, -1/+9Not even close to true. The Pickens wind farm in Texas is going to produce 18000MW at the cost of $4.9 billion by the time it is done. A nuclear power plant cost $11 billion or more, and produces less than 2000MW.
Add to that the long term costs of running a nuclear power plant and disposing of the (harmful) waste vs. the long term costs of running a wind farm and wind beats the crap out of nuclear. - silencer01, on 07/30/2008, -2/+10Renewable and green energy!
Look forward more countries can build wind farm! - falstaff, on 07/30/2008, -0/+7Would be best if they had something to compete for. Say the Federal government puts up an X-Prize style competition: the state with the highest percentage of homes powered by non-fossil-fuel sources each year gets a check for 10% of its state budget.
For now, it wouldn't cost the feds more than around 10-15 billion dollars (a small drop in the bucket) even if CA won it, much less for other states, but it spurs renewable energy growth across the country. - inactive, on 07/30/2008, -3/+10Now....let's hope we can get enough people to pass the marijuana bill in 2010.
- twinklyJesus, on 07/30/2008, -0/+7Nothing better than fresh-grown wind, straight off the farm.
- diggydougie, on 07/30/2008, -2/+8I'm all for this. But the population of Portland is 568,380 so they need to build nearly 3 farms to power just that one city. The awesome thing about this is just how much is needed just to replace the existing power structure. I think that building windmills and solar panels could be the next huge industry for this country.
- serif69, on 07/30/2008, -0/+6Sick of the "green" movement. How about "Go technology!"?
- BillE3, on 07/30/2008, -1/+7Tell that to the environmentalists that shut down the wind farm at Altamont Pass between Livermore and San Jose. The birds of prey moved in to nest in the towers and hunt below them. The high number of dead birds brought a suit against the operators, and the windmills sit idle. Environmentalists pushed for the windmills then pushed to stop them.
- protodon, on 07/30/2008, -0/+5Wow the World's Largest WInd Farm is pretty much planned twice a week. When Rhode Island comes up with a plan I'm really gonna be suspicious.
- mrsteve0, on 07/30/2008, -0/+5Now we just have to figure out how to drill out enough wind turbines in Alaska's wildlife.
- inactive, on 07/30/2008, -1/+6/sigh
- inactive, on 07/30/2008, -0/+5Now we just need big sails to attach to our cars for phase two.
- freebird09, on 07/30/2008, -0/+4You're banking on the fact that every1 in Portland has their own house. My guess is that there is an average of above 2 for each household. Regardless, you do make a good point.
- hiPpymIck, on 07/30/2008, -0/+4i was just trying to give a picture of what a business would have to do to open a wind farm
...ie follow ***** bureaucratic procedures
/i just like flowcharts - akchrs, on 07/30/2008, -2/+6This is such a good idea. I wonder why Ted Kennedy (Liberal Democrat from Massachusetts's) is against the Cape Wind Project? Why such the hypocrisy from the Liberal Left?
- jthale, on 07/30/2008, -2/+6Where are all these wind turbines coming from?? Can they be made fast enough, cause I'm betting with all these new giant wind farms popping up that there will be a shortage of turbines and every project will end up finishing late.
- MacBookForMe, on 07/30/2008, -0/+4It was also here http://digg.com/tech_news/Oregon_to_Approve_Larges ...
- serif69, on 07/30/2008, -1/+5You SAW it on a test before. Nails on a chalkboard...
- nwkeeley, on 07/30/2008, -1/+4Wind farms do not harm birds and bats, those blades are spinning slow enough so that flying creatures can avoid them.
- tkstock, on 07/31/2008, -0/+3We should be doing all of it. Solar and Wind efficiency are below 20%, but the electrical grid is probably the most efficient method to get power to the wheels of the car. The problem is that batteries are not up to the challenge. We need short and mid-term solutions like drilling here and now and nuclear power, and we also need to be pumping money into research for long-term solutions, such as solar. Efficient solar cells will be the answer - even on a cloudy day, solar cells produce power.
I believe in researching long-term solutions, but not at the expense of short-term ones. Obama's plan will kill our economy and drive jobs overseas. - BlockedUser, on 07/30/2008, -0/+3Its in Oregon so I think you mean ducks.
- docCdav, on 07/30/2008, -0/+3Portland proper, yeah. But the Portland metro area has an estimated 2 million people. Wind couldn't begin to do it all.
Chances are pretty good a lot of that power will be rerouted down to California like the hydroelectric power already being split from the Columbia River. - waldo686, on 07/30/2008, -1/+4it ruins the view from his estate, and you can't have that now can you
- nblsavage, on 07/30/2008, -1/+4http://www.awea.org/faq/sagrillo/ms_bats_0302.html
- vbschoten, on 07/30/2008, -0/+3I still think we need to put more offshore....out of sight
- dhs100, on 07/30/2008, -0/+3LOL. This is the 6th time recently I've seen the worlds largest wind farm being built, I mean, honestly. Now Australia, the UK, the US and Norway are all building the biggest. It's good though...I just went to visit a farm near to us and stood underneath one of them...they're awesome...I don't get why some people think they're ugly?
- Mudb0y, on 07/30/2008, -1/+4possibly because its a private (for profit) bid to build the wind farm on public land with little compensation, and that it would possibly hurt the biggest local industry, Tourism.
- PabloMac, on 07/30/2008, -0/+2Go Sustainability!
- YZBot, on 07/30/2008, -0/+2Heading upwind during rush hour would be a nitemare.
- Buelldozer, on 07/30/2008, -0/+2Interesting point but you couldn't do it all with Wind power anyway.
Hit Wikipedia for information on "base load"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base_load_power_plant - Optiks, on 07/30/2008, -0/+2@ BillE3 -
Don't those towers use small-ratio turbines, with lattice-type towers though?
After many studies, that was one several reasons for moving towards larger, taller towers with relatively slower, long-ratio blades. - diggydougie, on 07/30/2008, -0/+2For crying out loud. They are just windmills. They make power and cost nearly nothing to operate. Most of your chart is bureaucratic *****.
- zacharytelschow, on 07/30/2008, -0/+2My grandpa asked his neighbors, and they said they're getting 6k a year for allowing the windmill on their farms (rural Wisconsin). My dad then wondered how many windmills they could stick on his property (we have about 1/3 of an acre in a small city, lol).
- inactive, on 07/30/2008, -0/+2Car no, skates yes !
- diggydougie, on 07/30/2008, -0/+2The real answer would be to look at the current capacity of the existing power plants (+ room for growth). Then things like how many per house are meaningless. Also you need to factor in the industrial needs. That's probably double the residential need.
- Rudigity, on 07/30/2008, -0/+2Tourette's?
- DrJG, on 07/31/2008, -0/+2Seems like a good beginning. But why not go ahead too with furnishing all buildings with solar panels on roofs and windows as well, in addition?
- thecoolestguy, on 07/31/2008, -0/+2Oh wow, 200,000 homes. All we need to do is cover half the planet with these giant wind farms to power the remaining 2 billion homes.
- zacharytelschow, on 07/30/2008, -1/+2Offshore, out of sight... oil.
- Barackalypse, on 07/30/2008, -0/+1Did you know that for every 10 MW of wind power you install the utility has to build roughly 8 MW of conventional backup fopr those times when the wind dies?
"According to Eon Netz, one of the four grid managers in Germany, with 7,050 MW of wind power capacity installed in its area at the end of 2004, the amount of back-up required was over 80%, which was the maximum output observed from all of their wind power facilities together."
http://www.wind-watch.org/faq-output.php - PabloMac, on 07/30/2008, -0/+1They would fight you tooth and nail, along with the NIMBY crowd.
- inactive, on 07/30/2008, -0/+1Not if is to close 24/7
- kinerry, on 07/30/2008, -0/+1unless it's not windy, in which case everyone goes without power
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