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- Bukowsky, on 05/31/2008, -2/+4Scamerica - you make me smile. The same copied & pasted block of text on every eco-submit. You don't even try to edit it or change it a bit... just the same list of "scientists"...
I would like to see somebody list the amount of scientists that agree with Al Gore... I bet you digg won't even allow that many characters on a comment. - crazyjake, on 05/31/2008, -3/+5here is another 31,000+ to your list
http://www.petitionproject.org/ - magicjohnson, on 05/30/2008, -1/+3No way is LA in the top 3 for lowest polluting per capita. Have you seen the smog in downtown LA?
- ICSU, on 05/31/2008, -0/+2When someone starts with the Al Gore fallacy, he is probably gonna say a lot of crap.
- inactive, on 05/31/2008, -3/+4I am shocked...SHOCKED to see so many cities from Al Gore's home state listed. I guess the Goracle wasn't too successful as a junior senator either.
- iancgi, on 05/31/2008, -2/+3Co2 does not cause climate change, its a scam people. There have been higher levels of Co2 in the past without global warming happening. Climate drives Co2, not the other way around. Plus more Co2 is a good thing, in the past life prospered under times with high levels of Co2.
Educate yourself, this is just another mode of control. - monoa, on 05/31/2008, -0/+1"most of the warming observed over the last 50 years is attributable to human activities"
No scientific body of national or international standing is known to reject the basic findings of human influence on recent climate. They represent thousands upon thousands of reputable scientists in every university and scientific facility on the planet.
Do yourself a favor and read all of:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on ...
Where can I collect my $100?
P.S. Dufus, it's not Gore's 'opinion'. He just communicated what thousands of scientists are certain of. - monoa, on 05/31/2008, -0/+1That's your rebuttal? Retard.
- RuffRidr, on 05/30/2008, -1/+2That's what I was thinking. Maybe its just because they have so damn many people there, that it brings the per capita numbers down.
- monoa, on 05/31/2008, -0/+1Gullible much?
http://thingsbreak.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/oregon ...
Random sampling of Oregon Petition (aka petitionproject.org) signatories whose names begin with Q:
Forrest W Quackenbush of Lafayette Indiana, member of the American Oil Chemists Society (“Your Home for Fats, Oil and Surfactants”) since 1943, served on the Editorial Advisory Board of Lipids until 2006.
Oh, and another inconvenient truth? He’s dead (May 21 2007, age 99).
Charles Spangler Quisenberry of Kentucky appears to have a Ph D in being dead since 1978.
William Quisenberry of Kentucky appears to be an ambitious 24-year old whose expertise in global climatology is presumably informed by his Sports Management And Communications degree, his janitorial services business and his general success in life that he attributes to his Lord and Savior Jesus Christ .
Ralph Quosig of Reno Nevada is the baritone voice of ‘The Silver Dollars’ barbershop quartet, has just released a wax cylinder of his latest satirical songs about “Global Warming”, including such hits as “If You Can’t Take the Heat, Have Another Mint Julep” and “Bye-Bye Polar Bear”.
James Roger Quinan Ph. D. (Chem) of Renssalaer, New York, not only pioneered the use of spectroscopy in the study of abrasives (unlike Al Gore!) he has also dedicated his life to demonstrating the false ‘logic’ behind the ‘Global Warming’ hysteria through the analogous use of Norton Co. commercial sandpaper products. Tragically, at the brink of a global warming-denial breakthrough he died in 2002, but his name and his work lives on as a signatory of the Oregon Petition—it’s what he might have wanted, though it’s way too late for him to argue about it now. - thespudmall, on 05/30/2008, -1/+1I know. LA is horrendous. They best be lying!
- Railer, on 06/06/2008, -1/+1Ya any names? I bunch of nameless societies? How many people on those societies actually voted for these proclamations?
It's fun to pretend you have a consensus when none EVER existed. - Stevanoski, on 05/31/2008, -1/+1Just imagine in the prehistoric days when animals out numbered man by millions to one. All that methane belching and flatulence and C02. Must have been a disaster.
- Stevanoski, on 05/31/2008, -1/+1What kinda beer you like?
- monoa, on 05/30/2008, -6/+5A response to scamerica, probably the most clueless, dishonest and cowardly person on Digg:
1. Many of the people you list are taken from the discredited Heartland list - http://www.desmogblog.com/distinguished-scientist- ...
2. Who do we believe? The handful of contrarian scientists you keep listing or the *thousands* of scientists who say catastrophic climate change is happening and is mainly due to human activity? Spend some time thinking about that one.
3. "With the July 2007 release of the revised statement by the American Association of Petroleum Geologists, no remaining scientific body of national or international standing is known to reject the basic findings of human influence on recent climate." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on ...
4. A detailed look at your list:
* Dr. Edward Wegman, a mathematician, said "We were not asked to assess the reality of global warming and indeed this is not an area of our expertise."
* Dr. David Bromwich - his research is based primarily on single site assessments at Amundsen-Scott Research Station. He does not deny the reality of anthropogenic climate change.
* Prof. Paul Reiter has not denied the reality of global warming, he has merely questioned the relationship between it and the effects on mosquito-borne diseases. He sits on the council of an organization called the 'Annapolis Centre for Science-Based Public Policy' which has received $763,500 in funding from ExxonMobil.
* Prof. Hendrik Tennekes is an aeronautical engineer. His opinion matters why?
* Dr. Christopher Landsea has said "we certainly see substantial warming in the ocean and atmosphere over the last several decades ..., and I have no doubt a portion of that, at least, is due to greenhouse warming."
* Dr. Antonino Zichichi has made a career out of controversy. He is widely ridiculed in the scientific community for his error-strewn publications.
* Dr. Richard Lindzen is also a member of 'Annapolis Centre for Science-Based Public Policy' which receives major funding from ExxonMobil. He also works for 'Cato Institute' - again funded by ExxonMobil.
* Dr. Zbigniew Jaworowski is criticised by Professor Hans Oeschger who says that some of Jaworowski claims are "drastically wrong from the physical point of view".
* Dr. Syun-Ichi Akasofu - "it is in the best interests of mankind to reduce the rate of increase of our release of CO2 ... Prominent climate change is in progress in the Arctic"
* Dr. Claude Allegre - 20 years ago in "Clés pour la géologie", he wrote "By burning fossil fuels, man increased the concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere which, for example, has raised the global mean temperature...". He now says "The cause of this climate change is unknown".
* Dr. Habibullo Abdussamatov - his claims that solar activity is the main contributor to climate change have been discredited - http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bb ...
* Dr. Richard Tol, an economist, does not deny the reality of anthropogenic climate change, he has merely debated the economic impact.
* Dr. Sami Solanki - "since about 1980, while the total solar radiation, its ultraviolet component, and the cosmic ray intensity all exhibit the 11-year solar periodicity, there has otherwise been no significant increase in their values. In contrast, the Earth has warmed up considerably within this time period. This means that the Sun is not the cause of the present global warming."
* Prof. Freeman Dyson - "One of the main causes of warming is the increase of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere resulting from our burning of fossil fuels such as oil and coal and natural gas."
* Dr. Eigils Friis-Christensen does not deny the reality of anthropogenic climate change and does not suggest that the sun "could account for most of the warming" - http://folk.uio.no/nathan/web/statement.html
So, your entire list is composed of lies, misquotes and discredited claims. If you keep pasting it, it makes you dishonest. Or stupid. Or both. - inactive, on 05/31/2008, -4/+3Your attempt to help the Goracle do damage control is weak.
- aaaleman, on 05/30/2008, -5/+3Man, scamerica... you should really consider reading some useful books. Not stuff that already fits into your generally misinformed worldview, but stuff that truly challenges you those amusing preconceived notions you keep backing up with bogus references.
- inactive, on 05/31/2008, -4/+2I'm not worried about it.
Anybody want to come over Saturday? I'm grilling chicken, beef AND catfish on my grill in the back yard using Mesquite wood. - Railer, on 05/31/2008, -3/+1Do it get a list of the 2500 scientists who agree with Gore, do it and I'll give you $100. Safest bet ever, you know why? They don't exist.
Show me ANY list showing more than 500 climate specialists, who agree with Gore, and until you can you should really shut up about enviro "facts."
And yes there are several petitions over 500 that are AGAINST Gore but NONE for. - Stevanoski, on 05/31/2008, -5/+2Ahhhhhnnnnnt, the answer is: none of them as there is no empirical evidence man has caused any global warming. Psssst, Jupiter warmed up enough to create a third spot and the Martian icecap is shrinking.
- inactive, on 05/30/2008, -13/+6Al Gore says any scientist who disagrees with him on Global Warming is a kook, or a crook.
Guess he never met these guys:
Dr. Edward Wegman--former chairman of the Committee on Applied and Theoretical Statistics of the National Academy of Sciences--demolishes the famous "hockey stick" graph that launched the global warming panic.
Dr. David Bromwich--president of the International Commission on Polar Meteorology--says "it's hard to see a global warming signal from the mainland of Antarctica right now."
Prof. Paul Reiter--Chief of Insects and Infectious Diseases at the famed Pasteur Institute--says "no major scientist with any long record in this field" accepts Al Gore's claim that global warming spreads mosquito-borne diseases.
Prof. Hendrik Tennekes--director of research, Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute--states "there exists no sound theoretical framework for climate predictability studies" used for global warming forecasts.
Dr. Christopher Landsea--past chairman of the American Meteorological Society's Committee on Tropical Meteorology and Tropical Cyclones--says "there are no known scientific studies that show a conclusive physical link between global warming and observed hurricane frequency and intensity."
Dr. Antonino Zichichi--one of the world's foremost physicists, former president of the European Physical Society, who discovered nuclear antimatter--calls global warming models "incoherent and invalid."
Dr. Zbigniew Jaworowski--world-renowned expert on the ancient ice cores used in climate research--says the U.N. "based its global-warming hypothesis on arbitrary assumptions and these assumptions, it is now clear, are false."
Prof. Tom V. Segalstad--head of the Geological Museum, University of Oslo--says "most leading geologists" know the U.N.'s views "of Earth processes are implausible."
Dr. Syun-Ichi Akasofu--founding director of the International Arctic Research Center, twice named one of the "1,000 Most Cited Scientists," says much "Arctic warming during the last half of the last century is due to natural change."
Dr. Claude Allegre--member, U.S. National Academy of Sciences and French Academy of Science, he was among the first to sound the alarm on the dangers of global warming. His view now: "The cause of this climate change is unknown."
Dr. Richard Lindzen--Professor of Meteorology at M.I.T., member, the National Research Council Board on Atmospheric Sciences and Climate, says global warming alarmists "are trumpeting catastrophes that couldn't happen even if the models were right."
Dr. Habibullo Abdussamatov--head of the space research laboratory of the Russian Academy of Science's Pulkovo Observatory and of the International Space Station's Astrometria project says "the common view that man's industrial activity is a deciding factor in global warming has emerged from a misinterpretation of cause and effect relations."
Dr. Richard Tol--Principal researcher at the Institute for Environmental Studies at Vrije Universiteit, and Adjunct Professor at the Center for Integrated Study of the Human Dimensions of Global Change, at Carnegie Mellon University, calls the most influential global warming report of all time "preposterous . . . alarmist and incompetent."
Dr. Sami Solanki--director and scientific member at the Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research in Germany, who argues that changes in the Sun's state, not human activity, may be the principal cause of global warming: "The sun has been at its strongest over the past 60 years and may now be affecting global temperatures."
Prof. Freeman Dyson--one of the world's most eminent physicists says the models used to justify global warming alarmism are "full of fudge factors" and "do not begin to describe the real world."
Dr. Eigils Friis-Christensen--director of the Danish National Space Centre, vice-president of the International Association of Geomagnetism and Aeronomy, who argues that changes in the Sun's behavior could account for most of the warming attributed by the UN to man-made CO2.
And many more, all in Lawrence Solomon's devastating new book, The Deniers



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