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- dvpdziyn, on 01/07/2009, -5/+71interesting how Sea Shepherd took this opportunity to let us know that they offered to help and were rejected...a public relations ploy?
- ancientdinko, on 01/07/2009, -9/+52well... such a gesture coming from a guy who tells the mourners of drowned sealers that their loved ones were
"nothing more than vicious baby-killers" and "cigarette smoking apes with clubs"
is probably gonna get rejected.....
Maybe animal planet brings out a softer side of Paul...
and its 'antarctic' not 'arctic'....geesh... - dime5150, on 01/07/2009, -4/+34This guy is a joke (Paul Watson). He even faked being shot (shown on the finale of the show) in an effort to get even more people involved with his "cause". This is just along the same lines of that stunt he pulled. He is the definitive public relations whore...
- radicaldementia, on 01/07/2009, -5/+35This isn't really about saving a life. If you fall into freezing cold water like that, you're dead in a matter of minutes. This was just about finding the body. Plus, if you look at this article (holy ***** related by keyword is actually useful)
http://digg.com/environment/Activists_attack_Japan ...
It's clear that calling Sea Shepherd eco-terrorists is not entirely inaccurate. I'm not claiming which side is in the wrong (or right) here, but I think this article is a little biased. - ngmcs8203, on 01/07/2009, -1/+29Animal Planet paints a pretty accurate picture. The guy is a douche. I love the cause, but he leads these naive followers into the ocean to fight whalers. And when it comes to being in dangers situations he tells them, "if you're not ready to die for us, you shouldn't be here." He sounds like a cult leader. One of the most aggravating episodes I saw was when he sent two of his crewman on to the Japanese ship. The second he heard that they were on, he started calling news agencies and telling them that his crew members were being kidnapped and held against their will. All with this gay grin on his face. The climax of the event was him saying he got shot by the whalers.
- omgwtflawl, on 01/07/2009, -5/+32I love that show they made on it. Hippies on a boat doing exactly as well as you think hippies on a boat would do. Everyone on the ship who was competent immediately got the hell off the ship the minute they pulled into port (and being replaced by people who might not know anything about boats or their job, but hey they are "really passionate" about whales!). That show really has it all.
- Anand999, on 01/07/2009, -1/+23I watched most of the "Whale Wars" shows and never once saw them try to copy a CD. Are you sure they're pirates?
- ngmcs8203, on 01/07/2009, -2/+23Just like everything else that fat old man does.
- jmeller, on 01/07/2009, -1/+19We're Whalers on the Moon!
- ftx437, on 01/07/2009, -12/+29"eco-terrorist organization."
no
Pirates is more like it.. - JDoorjam, on 01/07/2009, -3/+18The Sea Shepherds are public relations masters who know exactly where to draw the line with their actions to maintain public sympathy on their side. They know that this gesture will gain them points in the media and with the public, and they can refer back to it for years as proof that they're not "eco-terrorists," but are conscientious people who are acting out of a respect for all life.
However, that doesn't preclude that they really are interested in helping out. This could easily be a genuine and well-meaning offer of help, bundled in PR like a bacon-wrapped shrimp. The validity of the shrimp isn't wholly compromised by the deliciousness of the bacon.
Perhaps the Japanese can't see themselves swallowing that bacon, or maybe they're allergic to shrimp. - alapoet, on 01/07/2009, -21/+35Whoa... So political affiliations clearly are more important than human life.
- HyperionHK, on 01/07/2009, -2/+16Ya the guy was already dead, so it's just a matter of trying to recover the body. When you fall into water that cold, it's pretty much a death sentence. If you're not wearing a survival suit made for that, you'll be dead before they can even turn the boat around and pick you back up. Even with the suit, it won't keep you alive for much longer.
Frankly I don't blame them. Sea Shepherd is their arch enemy pretty much. - tjex, on 01/07/2009, -5/+18Of course it's about PR, their mission is to stop whaling. Which isn't such a bad thing after all.
But to refuse help when one man is in the water is a little disturbing. I'd be pretty pissed if it was me who fell overboard. I think the safety of the sailor should come ahead of any political grandstanding. - DontTreadOnMike, on 01/07/2009, -12/+24The crew of the sea shepherd are scumbags. /obviousness
- dhughes, on 01/07/2009, -0/+12 The worst is Dr Jerry Vlasak from Los Angeles, a Sea Shepherd crew member, an emergency room doctor who advocates killing anyone who eats meat!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Vlasak#Views_on ...
"I think there is a use for violence in our movement. And I think it can be an effective strategy. Not only is it morally acceptable, I think that there are places where it could be used quite effectively from a pragmatic standpoint.
For instance, if vivisectors were routinely being killed, I think it would give other vivisectors pause in what they were doing in their work — and if these vivisectors were being targeted for assassination ... — and I wouldn't pick some guy way down the totem pole, but if there were prominent vivisectors being assassinated, I think that there would be a trickle-down effect and many, many people who are lower on that totem pole would say, "I'm not going to get into this business because it's a very dangerous business ...
And I don't think you'd have to kill — assassinate — too many vivisectors before you would see a marked decrease in the amount of vivisection going on. And I think for 5 lives, 10 lives, 15 human lives, we could save a million, 2 million, 10 million non-human animals.
And I — you know — people get all excited about, "Oh what's going to happen when the ALF accidentally kills somebody in an arson?" Well, you know I mean, I think we need to get used to this idea. It's going to happen, okay? It's going to happen" Dr. Jerry Vlasak, 2003 - kinghajj, on 01/07/2009, -1/+13We carry a Harpoon!
- PIPBoy2000, on 01/07/2009, -1/+13I was really starting to enjoy the series until everyone who was experienced left the ship, that told me something right away...
- Wuss, on 01/07/2009, -7/+18Definitely a PR stunt by Sea Shepherd. It took all of about 1/2 an episode to see that their entire "mission" is one big PR stunt.
I mean, you have a big boat, you drive up to another big boat, and then what? Throw smoke grenades? Yell? Flash signs? All the bravado of painting the ship black, with the skull and crossbones flag, it's all very high-schoolish.
They didn't take measures to hide in one episode, that they have people waiting in front of computers and radios ready to send out PR blasts about events that they essentially manufacture. (the episode where the captain got "shot", but playback by Discovery channel itself concluded that there were no shots fired). - atsquishy, on 01/07/2009, -1/+12both sides are extremely biased. up to you to see what is really going on
- Lloyder33, on 01/07/2009, -1/+11So we tell tall tales
- timla, on 01/07/2009, -2/+12Is the a PR stunt by Sea Sheapard, probably.
But speaking for the guy who fell in the ice cold water, or his family, any help locating him would be appreciated. - rheaume, on 01/07/2009, -2/+12Weird, it seems people are pro-whaling or just anti paul watson?
- TAGline, on 01/07/2009, -1/+11But there ain't no whales
- theaceoffire, on 01/07/2009, -1/+11And sing our whaling tune!
- RooX, on 01/07/2009, -0/+10uhh, its a Japanese whaler that fell overboard, not anyone from the shepherd.
- boocowofdeath, on 01/07/2009, -14/+23The Sea Shepherds are cultural imperialists. The Japanese obviously don't think what they're doing is wrong- so on what authority can a bunch of hippy Westerners tell them that they are? This is a job for governments, not idiots.
I wouldn't accept help from them either - dystra, on 01/07/2009, -3/+11anyone one else feel they deserve the treatment they get from the whalers, considering the risk "they" take to prove their point.
- scubajim, on 01/07/2009, -1/+8Ignoring the political differences for a moment. Both groups are at sea in a dangerous environment. This event could happen to any ship at sea. It is equivalent to how another ship should treat a ship floundering at sea. You always offer assistance.
- mirunit, on 01/07/2009, -3/+10Honestly, the Sea Shepard ship is a Pirate vessel. As such, I would have zero problems with the whalers retaliating with lethal force if attacked or boarded.
- NeoCortex, on 01/07/2009, -1/+8I actually started laughing out loud when someone on the bridge ordered them to "go left". I was like, "What the *****. What happened to 'port'."
- JCEEZ, on 01/08/2009, -0/+7and were all glad you drowned
- Jeepinator, on 01/07/2009, -0/+6bullet proof vests are not some magical shield that can completely eliminate the effects of being shot. Assuming the bullet doesn't penetrate through it, then it feels like being punched really hard. Even low caliber rounds will break ribs through a vest. You don't just not notice getting hit in the chest.
- OutlawAdidas, on 01/07/2009, -6/+12Yes, cuz whaling is by no means an eco-terrorist act
- Kendown, on 01/07/2009, -0/+6"...the Japanese refused..." um no, the captain of that ship, who is Japanese refused their help.
- aladrin, on 01/07/2009, -1/+7Offering assistance in this is the only good thing I've ever heard them do. But yes, that's what you do in this situation and others when certain things happen. You don't stop being human just because you hate each other.
Publicizing that the help was refused, however, was an incredibly douche-y thing to do. - Clinojim, on 01/07/2009, -2/+8It's funny that you mention how one ship captain should treat another ship floundering at sea. In one episode of the Whale Wars show the Sea Shepard launched one of their smaller boats to attack a Japanese whaling ship with a rope contraption with the express intent of causing it to lose propulsion and flounder dead in the water.
- theaceoffire, on 01/07/2009, -1/+7This is *cold* water.
The guy probably died nearly instantly.
(Source: http://www.shipwrite.bc.ca/Chilling_truth.htm )
The Japanese are just searching for the corpse to give him a proper burial. - Jeepinator, on 01/07/2009, -2/+7The people aboard Sea Shepherd should be considered pirates and should be treated as such. The whalers should use lethal force to defend themselves.
- m0llusk, on 01/07/2009, -3/+8Whaling is eco-terrorism.
- Griminald, on 01/07/2009, -0/+5Damn it, I thought this was some old hockey article. My bad.
- e3winter, on 01/07/2009, -2/+6yarrr!
- JAVandiver, on 01/07/2009, -10/+14I really wish that the crew of the Maru had executed those hippies...
- jgzman, on 01/07/2009, -5/+8Pirates steal things of value. What do these guys steal?
Protesters. Obnoxious protesters. - bobsworth, on 01/08/2009, -0/+3Just like how he faked being shot....
- Twenty, on 01/07/2009, -2/+5Hey guys I think it's a PR stunt by the Sea Shepherds
(Just in case you didn't read the other 50 comments saying the _exact_ same thing) - docbob84, on 01/07/2009, -2/+4/shrug. I would argue that Catholicism has done at least as much damage to the world (not the ecological world, but the intellectual world) as whalers do. That said, if I was to throw a smoke bomb into a cathedral during mass (ie while it was trying to conduct its "business"), it would indeed be an act of terrorism. I'm not saying that whaling is good, I think it should be outlawed and I think cetaceans are probably more intelligent even than what we give them credit for. But I think there are international channels for getting that taken care of, such as international courts or sanctions. A private group that uses smoke bombs or anything else to disrupt the business of an industry is a terrorist group.
It was silly to turn down their offer for help, though. Swallow your pride, help save the family some grief, and go back to "business as usual" the next day. - inactive, on 01/07/2009, -4/+6After watching the first season of whale wars, I can say that there is nothing in the world i would love more than to be a japanese whaler. I'd love to harpoon that fat lazy dumb ***** sea shepherd captain right through the gut.
- JCEEZ, on 01/07/2009, -3/+5soooo if we farm whales in tanks that don't allow them to move, we can start mass producing them and its ok to eat?
- ohplease, on 01/07/2009, -1/+3
Oh no, a "researcher" fell in the water. He must have been studying whale songs. -
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