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- Asheis, on 07/03/2008, -5/+123jesus people! enjoy the ***** movie! that's all it is!!! I don't remember it being marketed as an environmentalist movie and while it does have a message to it, that by no means overpowers the movie!
Wall-E is just a fun movie, for christs sake. - espritprv36, on 07/02/2008, -5/+122I wish people would stop associating Disney with Pixar. Pixar writes all their own amazing stories and has numerous great productions. The fact that Disney has bought the right to stick their label on it doesn't mean they're the same thing.
- ghaltmann, on 07/03/2008, -5/+81Hey guys lets take something that's cool and bash it for popularity sake.
Wall-E was a great movie. I don't see you living in a mud hut eating off your own farm. Shut the hell up. - SQLDigger, on 07/03/2008, -3/+60There's just no pleasing some people . . .
- shoeshinecs, on 07/03/2008, -0/+55The director stated he did not have an environmental agenda.
- Haoie, on 07/02/2008, -3/+49How ironic would it be, if in the future, a real trash bot cleans up abandoned old Wall-E toys on a deserted Earth.
- serif69, on 07/02/2008, -17/+60Wait, something that claims to be pro-environment is really just a facade for making money? You don't say!
- Berkana, on 07/03/2008, -0/+28It is not anti-capitalism as far as I can tell; what it mocks is corporatism by the use of a caricature of the mega corporation with virtually governmental power that tries to sell you everything without regard for your health or for the well being of the environment. "Buy 'n Large", the giant corporation in the movie, appears to be some sort of cross between Halliburton, Monsanto, ADM, and Walmart. The government seems to have been supplanted by the singular monopolistic corporation, which runs everyone's lives from cradle to grave.
The movie is excellent. The story is very touching. I didn't think a love story about two robots could be so moving. - estacado, on 07/03/2008, -1/+20Come on, don't be such a tight ass. Kids shouldn't have toys now?
- DoctorX, on 07/03/2008, -3/+22Pixar is about movies, not merchandising. That is the domain of the irony-impaired studio bean-counters.
- xxMarka, on 07/03/2008, -2/+19Did anyone else notice the "stay the course" quote?
I noticed that immediately and thought it was funny - Noiremorte, on 07/03/2008, -2/+18***** seriously, and this is coming from an evironmentalist. Get a grip, Alternet!
- MavRevMatt, on 07/02/2008, -1/+16Pixar might think that but I'm sure Disney doesn't...
- rolawson, on 07/03/2008, -0/+15It never made that claim.
- fuzzmeister, on 07/03/2008, -0/+14You know, why don't we just not make anything at all? Then we would never have to throw anything away! In fact, we can all just curl up and die, the Earth would be better off that way.
Sigh... while I'm all for helping the environment, some people need to realize that having a perfect little world where no one wastes anything is just not going to happen. - borez, on 07/02/2008, -12/+26Tragic irony really.
- PWoT, on 07/03/2008, -0/+13Environmentalists like the author here are what kill the movement; instead of looking for sustainability and balance with nature, they see mankind as a cancer that must be killed if nature is to survive.
I don't know about you, but the reason I'm for the environment is because I want it to be a nice place for humans to live forever, not because I think it's a war between nature and man that I want humanity to lose.
I am one, after all. I believe the author is too. - swrostmore, on 07/03/2008, -0/+10Evidence that WALL-E "bills itself as pro-environment?" Come on, alternet, you're better than this.
- GramarNazi, on 07/03/2008, -4/+14Making and selling toys to children is not the same thing as polluting the earth.
And the movie wasn't anti-capitalistic, it was just satirizing our over-dependance on it. - superkendall, on 07/03/2008, -2/+11Why are you buying things and then putting them in a landfill, is what I want to know.
Aren't the toys far better off in closets, away from any light and possibility the packaging could get creased or dented? - biggerapple3am, on 07/03/2008, -2/+11Anyone who says the movie itself is bad because Disney is selling merchandise is a moron. The fact is, no animated movie geared for the family could reach an audience that WALL-E does without selling a lot of merchandise. Now, do you want that movie to be well-written, beautifully animated, and have a positive (albeit simplified) message? Go bitch about the 20 other ***** animated movies that are coming out that will also sell merchandise.
- gimmeslack12, on 07/03/2008, -3/+12The one serious conviction that a man should have is that nothing is to be taken too seriously.
- Nicholas Butler - pilot3033, on 07/03/2008, -2/+10To say WALL-E is an environmental movie is a gross overstatement. It's a love story with a post-apocalypse setting. Not, "An Inconvenient Truth FOR KIDS!"
- inactive, on 07/03/2008, -0/+8I'm 100% sure that Karl Rove pulled the whole "Stay the Course!" slogan from the Mel Gibson film "The Patriot"... After one of Gibson's character's sons die, he decides to call it quits from the American Revolution and return to what's left of his family, but Light Horse Harry implores him to "Stay the course!" and then he rides around with the flag and uses the flag as a spear to single-handedly wipe out the British dragoons in some pitched battle.
- fuzzmeister, on 07/03/2008, -2/+9If you've ever seen The Incredibles, which is essentially an objectivist manifesto, I somehow doubt that Pixar is, on the whole, anti-capitalist.
- tjmb9, on 07/03/2008, -0/+7IT IS A MOVIE. ITS A MOVIE!!!!
- rolawson, on 07/03/2008, -1/+8AFAIK the Disney corporation had no part in this movie other than promotion and distribution; therefore the makers of Wall-E != Disney.
Further, the movie never claimed to be "pro-environment" or "anti-capitalism" and never marketed itself as such for any sort of agenda; stop tacking on labels to it. - mach32, on 07/03/2008, -5/+12some people just need to get a life. digg has just about become a landfill itself..
- KMartSheriff, on 07/03/2008, -0/+5Superkendall, here's a thought: try getting your facts straight before spewing *****.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixar
"Lasseter and Catmull's oversight of both the Disney and Pixar studios did not mean that the two studios were merging, however. In fact, additional conditions were laid out as part of the deal to ensure that Pixar remained a separate entity, a concern that analysts had about the Disney deal." - Jordan117, on 07/03/2008, -0/+5It's not so much anti-capitalism as it is anti-consumption and anti-conformist.
- Darkan, on 07/03/2008, -0/+5The author of this article is a moron. Wall-E is a great movie, and to read too much into it is stupid.
- aarku, on 07/03/2008, -1/+5Pixar is a subsidiary of Disney. Why the hell digg parent down? It's correct. Look it up.....
- inactive, on 07/03/2008, -1/+5Who cares if it "clogs the landfills"? We're not exactly running out of landfill space. Besides, landfills are GOOD for the environment.
- mezzanine224, on 07/03/2008, -0/+4Went and saw "Wall-E" last night at the El Capitan theater. As I was waiting to get into the midnight show, I saw the previous audience exiting the theater carrying plastic 'Wall-E' buckets, and cheap 'Wall-E' digital watches. No doubt each of these will live in their owner's house for an average of about 2 days before being thrown away, and carried to a landfill.
It's nice that Disney took a hard look at the message of their film before handing out worthless plastic as a marketing gimmick. - inactive, on 07/03/2008, -0/+4Maybe university English departments shouldn't be charging tuition and cramming Marxist philosophy down our throats neither.
Not saying I'm against the philosophy, just pointing out that bastions of art and education are commercialized to the brim and hypocritical about it... - MavRevMatt, on 07/03/2008, -0/+4I enjoyed it as a movie, I just thought there has to be some meaning behind it. Pixar doesn't just make a movie to make a movie, they've always got a story to tell.
- EnnuiStudent, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3Ironic?
- Brian48216, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3Pretty sure people are looking for something that isn't there; and/or the baseless disdain for the "green movement"
Perhaps the broadest moral of the story was simply, don't be lazy.
It's like you people have never seen Bambi/Fern Gully/Hercules/Pinnochio/Dumbo/Cinderella/Aladdin/, etc etc. They have very broad "moral" messages, because it's characteristic of a lot of fairy tales. But you can easily turn that moral into a political statement if you wanted to. - notadiggtard, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3You must have quite a list for "The Matrix"
and the Indiana Jones movies
and the National Treasure movies
and the Star Wars Movies
and the Teletubbies
and the Smurfs
and Seinfeld
You are very very smart! - AnonthePyro, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3Dugg for well-written comment.
- jabelar, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3Actually, he had both the pig and the dinosaur from Toy Story in his collection of garbage. Also the Pizza Planet truck is shown abandoned in one scene. So they were self-referential.
- Smuikas, on 07/03/2008, -1/+4Well, we aren't being very responsible.....
- KMartSheriff, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3I hate the sensationalists too. Instead of finding a way to fix things they just spew "humans should all die. we are mother earth's poison. the sky is falling blah blah blah".
- Goombellaofgoom, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2Nah, he'd save a Buzz toy, because it makes neat noises.
(BTW, kudos for using "ironic" correctly) - wdr1, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2CoffeJoost, please provide a _single_ citation or reference that Wall-E claims to be "pro-environment".
Or did you just make that up to try to get the front page of Digg? - billbugger, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2well, if you read the article, you don't have to see the movie now. SPOILER!
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/ good movie btw! - mrmacky, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2Though this article has put a cynical spin on the movie for me - I can still say that I truly hope this movie gets labeled as a "classic." It truly is a great Pixar film, it had a great message, a great plot, and was well executed.
My only regret is that (holy frickin' spoiler alert) in the end, Wall-E didn't "die", so to speak, instead he came back and was good-ol' Wall-E, apparently he had his memory jogged by a "kiss." This movie would have been so amazing if it left you thinking that YOU killed that poor little robot, just so you could have modern conveniences. I think it would've made more of an impact and been less of a sap-story if Wall-E had died, and would've shown that sometimes true love means being selfless, and sacrificing yourself.
Still, it was a great film, even with the cheesy ending, I really do think it was meant as more of a love story than it was meant as an environmentalist plot to get us to clean up our act though... - KMartSheriff, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2Amen. ***** the Digg bandwagon.
- Ramble, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2I doubt English departments deal with politics or economics too much.
- inactive, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2I remember being a kid and absolutely miserable because there were no decent Star Wars toys around until the series got popular again in the mid-90s. Kids like the merchandise too, you know. I wouldn't want some fat swine on Digg going to toy stores like Carrie Nation and bashing toys apart screaming "GLOBAL WARMING MUST BE STOPPED! ***** BUSH!!!"
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