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- BeShirtHappy, on 01/04/2009, -9/+127The Vatican is anti-contraception...
- GTQ21, on 01/04/2009, -16/+115Maybe God just doesn't want those men to have children? I hear He works in mysterious ways.
- ThatsNotPudding, on 01/04/2009, -27/+105Maybe they should just stick to what they know best: Choir Boys.
- Isidore, on 01/04/2009, -11/+77Some people will use any stick to beat the Vatican with. Have your fun, but don't ignore the serious environmental issues. Mentioned 6 years ago in the Independent newspaper in 2002 citing a report from the UK Environment Agency.
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/male-fert ...
"Half of all the male fish in lowland rivers are changing sex as a result of pollution, alarming new official research suggests. The findings raise serious questions as to whether the pollution is getting into drinking water and affecting human fertility.
The research – to be published by the Environment Agency this month – shows that male fish are developing female characteristics in rivers all over the country. In some stretches all the male fish have been feminised.
Scientists conducting the research blame a particularly powerful form of oestrogen in urine from the contraceptive pill, which is flushed through sewage works into the rivers. Some fear that the "exquisitely potent" chemical may be contaminating part of the one third of all of the country's drinking water that is taken from rivers.
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The research suggests that the main culprit is ethanol oestradiol, a synthetic oestrogen used in the contraceptive pill which the scientists say can feminise fish at levels of as low as one part per billion. Conventional sewage treatment is ineffective at removing it from water.
Professor Charles Tyler of Exeter University, one of the leaders of the research, says that it is "so exquisitely potent that some of the very concentrations where we are seeing effects on fish are below the detection limit that is presently in place for testing our drinking water. So we cannot be sure that some of these compounds, albeit at very low concentrations, aren't getting into our drinking water". " - sjbdallas, on 01/04/2009, -10/+65If there's urine involved I think you're doing it wrong.
- JenniferInMO, on 01/04/2009, -18/+68Absurd. The Vatican has been attacking family planning options of all kinds. It is against all forms of birth control and uses myriad of excuses to attack them. The Vatican wants lots of little tithing Catholic babies because few people actually convert to Catholicism. It's how they keep the religion going.
- mousy, on 01/04/2009, -12/+61How dare they use scientific terms to back up anything they say.
- AtheismFTW, on 01/05/2009, -11/+50Apparently the pill is more awesome than I thought. Not only does it prevent me from having unwanted babies, but it's helping to curb world wide overpopulation by those people dumb enough not to want to take it on their own accord!
- loaff, on 01/05/2009, -15/+54Dear Religion,
We'll look into and take care of this. You can go back to praying and *****.
Sincerely,
Science - JasonCox, on 01/05/2009, -4/+38*looks at his girlfriend*
See? Even God says it's your fault.
*pauses*
*remembers he doesn't have a girlfriend*
*continues browsing Digg* - ElGubrush, on 01/05/2009, -5/+38Haven't you heard?
Every sperm is sacred
Every sperm is great
If a sperm is wasted
God gets quite irate - nescalona, on 01/05/2009, -7/+38ATTN everyone here: THINK FOR YOURSELF AND STOP BASHING THE VATICAN!
The Vatican is not at all the first organization to say this. Estrogen pollution is becoming a big problem. The user who wrote the Digg title to this article deserves a few groin kicks. It's absolutely PATHETIC how no one is questioning whether the Vatican must be wrong! - badqat, on 01/04/2009, -13/+43The Vatican is anti-logic!
- daonlyfreez, on 01/04/2009, -8/+34Ofcourse the Vatican would like to ban contraceptives, because they are not driven by reason, but there are undoubtedly real and serious short or longer-term health-repercussions because of _everything_ we dump into nature, what we do to our food, water and other supplies, and contraceptives (the pill) certainly is one of them. They certifiably influence wildlife's reproduction, and therefore I have no doubt they influence ours. But this is only one of the many types of crap we throw around, it is numerous and everywhere already, in our water, in our food. We eat and drink our own waste, sooner or later, there are many more "poisons" to consider when explaining this fertility change.
- trogdor282, on 01/05/2009, -3/+28They're sorta on the right track. Sperm counts ARE going down due to estrogen compounds in the environment. However, they're not coming from bc pills but from PLASTIC!! http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=plastic-not-fa ...
- samk, on 01/05/2009, -9/+32Pure nonsense. I drink lots of female urine, and I have 8 kids.
- inactive, on 01/05/2009, -6/+28Ya' know.....it's been proven to be true. The Vatican folks are just repeating what was reported in the news some time ago.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=4416882
Sorry to piss on you bigots' religion-bashing party, but this is scientific fact. - pe5t1lence, on 01/05/2009, -2/+23Let the heathens spill theirs
on the dusty ground
God shall make them pay for
Each Sperm that can't be found! - nescalona, on 01/05/2009, -2/+23EXACTLY. Thank you! The Digg title of this article is really misleading. The Vatican is not at all the first organization to say this. Estrogen pollution is becoming a big problem.
- Batfishy, on 01/04/2009, -13/+34"Millions of Catholics distanced themselves from Rome as a result."
Not enough... - ElGubrush, on 01/05/2009, -3/+23It's not completely off, as the amount of feminising chemicals (NOT contraceptives though) in the water has had some devastating effects on fish populations wherein most of the male fish are born trannies or female. It's still a stretch but there is a 3:1 ratio of female to male babies, though it's mostly due to certain chemicals having a feminising effect and not actually due to contraceptives.
- txsln, on 01/05/2009, -4/+23Dear Women,
Stop peeing you godless sluts.
Sincerely,
Religion - inactive, on 01/05/2009, -6/+24Golden showers tend to kill my boner as well
- Murdats, on 01/05/2009, -0/+17I know a family that had 5 boys and no girls.
see how anecdotes are useless?
also why are there 110% of all births male or female? - Memnochxx, on 01/05/2009, -0/+16Well I guess they weren't on the pill then.
- bongfarmer, on 01/05/2009, -1/+16 The pharmaceuticals we take and excrete end up in the water. If their still in active form, these chemicals can harm the sensitive wildlife living and using the water, for example its a large problem with amphibians who absorb it through their skin. There are plenty of cases of all the fish near sewage outlets becoming feminized. We are one of these sensitive creatures, these chemicals affect us to if we drink and bathe and swim in them. As people take more and more hormones and chemicals that are being passed in their active form this is going to be a growing problem. The pill does have feminizing properties, and remains active after excretion
Exposure to pharmaceuticals can have adverse affects. Pharmaceuticals often remain active after excreted. You are exposed if you drink or swim in the water where our unfiltered excrements are dumped. Pretty obvious, don't know why anyone cares what the pope thinks of all this, its a real problem though. We need to stop dumping untreated sewage into our water(for many other, more prominent reasons also) - StaticThunder, on 01/05/2009, -5/+19Its all part of His plan.
- StaticThunder, on 01/05/2009, -5/+19Don't forget plastics and insecticides. I think they are of far greater consequence than sewage, since the estrogens are thousands of times more potent and there probably isn't a single body of water on the planet that isn't affected.
- dandonia, on 01/05/2009, -3/+16Must be why I have moobs - damn the pill.
- trolleyfan, on 01/04/2009, -10/+23Oh darn! Only six billion plus people and not *nearly* enough Catholics. Better boost that fertility!
- inactive, on 01/05/2009, -9/+21I can't quickly find a reference for infertility in men being caused this phenomenon, but I can find references for environmental damage - http://www.bu.edu/sjmag/scimag2005/features/drugsi ...
Perhaps the anti-Christian types should try using that reason that they're so fond of - when it doesn't interfere with bashing religion and morality. - thscientist1, on 01/05/2009, -2/+13*do best
- tr500, on 01/05/2009, -2/+13What they're saying has a lot of basis in fact. Digg knee jerk much?
- elliotys, on 01/05/2009, -11/+21Actually, if you read the bible, they claim a lot of crazy *****.
- PopcornDave, on 01/05/2009, -1/+10Actually powdered female urine is used as one part of fertility treatment. It's collected from menopausal nuns. Stuff costs a bloody fortune because it takes so much urine to produce.
- SetarconeX, on 01/05/2009, -2/+11I'm not really sure we can take this as an official Vatican viewpoint. If I'm reading this right, the opinion is put forward by a guy who heads an organization I didn't know existed, in a newspaper. It's not like the Pope said it, or even like it was said by an influential Cardinal.
Since when do newspaper articles constitute Vatican policy? - greenfalcon69, on 01/05/2009, -4/+12One wonders when we will maybe ask the drug companies to clean up the mess they are creating! We are considering laws to make car and consumer good manufactureres being responsible for their products after use - recycling etc so why not expect the same for the drug companies when we have finished with their products. BOth produce polluting products!
- publiclurker, on 01/05/2009, -0/+8They don't teach basic biology where you come from do they? Try Googling chromosomes some time.
- Chjoma10, on 01/05/2009, -4/+12This just in: Girls do not poop.
- ansatsu29, on 01/05/2009, -1/+9@AtheismFTW,
Deer??? - BossKey, on 01/05/2009, -0/+7You're saying we should send our urine to the drug companies instead of releasing it into the environment?
- papermiles, on 01/05/2009, -3/+10new years resolution, eat less plastic, disinfectants, meat and urine.
- peaceninja, on 01/05/2009, -11/+18Those women really are out to ruin the male gender. First they give us the forbidden fruit from the tree of knowledge, and now they are pissing sterility chemicals into our drinking water. Oh Vatican, please tell us what to do and save us!
- autonomic, on 01/05/2009, -1/+8So, if I follow your logic, Obama is planning on overthrowing the republic and instating a Galactic Empire? Just like the last three Star Wars movies, that analogy ***** sucks.
- PsychoBrat, on 01/05/2009, -0/+7@ansatsu29, that's the joke: "deer women" = some kind of ***** up hybrid species.
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- suburbanthrills, on 01/05/2009, -0/+6So true. Estrogen pollution is completely responsible for sex changes in fish all around the world.
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/6848/ti ... - nbx909, on 01/05/2009, -0/+6By your reasoning Y chromosomes can be changed to X by estrogen.
- inactive, on 01/05/2009, -0/+6Hmmm, you are a selective listener.
http://www.oua-adh.org/climate%20change%20Church%2 ... -
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