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- RumpleForeskin3, on 10/10/2008, -33/+69Buried for being treehugging hippy junk
- Zoomdor, on 10/10/2008, -12/+33environmental policy experts tell us that climate change will save the economy....kinda like a cigarette lobby telling you that cigarettes will cure your lung cancer.
- inactive, on 10/10/2008, -14/+34*****.
- RyeBrye, on 10/10/2008, -7/+26"Skyrocketing energy prices and the financial crisis have been a wake-up call that something's got to change"...
If the only reason the economy is in the crapper is energy prices - clean energy is not the only answer. Any form of cheap energy would be the answer. The slight of hand in this article is implying that only clean energy will be cheap energy. - RyeBrye, on 10/10/2008, -5/+20I'd rather see a nuclear powerplant in my back yard than 10,000 windmills. Just saying.
- alvinrod, on 10/10/2008, -10/+22What a load of crap. If you want to push for clean energy, that's certainly fine and a good thing in my opinion. Don't pretend that it's going to save the economy, however. That's just complete BS.
- mywhitenoise, on 10/10/2008, -1/+11Why couldn't it help boost economy? It's not saying this is THE solution to solve the economic crisis, it says it could HELP.
***** dude, try conserving electricity, water, recycle...see how much money that saves you. I don't see why that couldn't help on a global scale. The less we consume as a country the better it is for everyone, especially the economy. Also, as Green businesses rise that offers more jobs for American workers. Some people just don't get it. - Visual77, on 10/10/2008, -4/+14Are you saying that helping the environment is what caused the economy to collapse?
- ancientshoes, on 10/10/2008, -15/+24wow, the hippies are really grasping at straws, aren't they?
- GiveM3aBJ, on 10/10/2008, -0/+8yeah even though the newer Nuclear plants are so hi tech that there is an extremely small chance of that even happening
not only that they are also extremely efficient.
just saying - tinroofrusted, on 10/10/2008, -11/+19This is the STUPIDEST idea I ever heard in my life.
- inactive, on 10/10/2008, -7/+15Man made Global Warming is a crock of sh*t. Its just another thing the left uses to screw everyone over. Al, Nancy, Harry all of you are full of crap!
- MWeather, on 10/10/2008, -0/+7Unless you know something the coal and oil industry don't, then clean energy will be the only cheap energy. Clean energy costs are dropping MUCH faster than dirty energy. In fact I don't think any dirty energy is actually decreasing in cost.
- imasuperDOTcom, on 10/10/2008, -8/+15Yes of course it could. And if we all stopped eating meat, Iran and Israel wouldn't have so many difficulties.
- inactive, on 10/10/2008, -0/+7Someone will have to build all the new high-speed rail lines, wind turbines and solar factories. Engineers will have to develop the systems that will transfer power from where it's being generated to where people need it, and store that power when it's not being used.
It's been a generation since America last invested in its infrastructure — time for another round to keep people employed and move us into the next century. Is it really that hard for people to figure out? - cliffzdude, on 10/10/2008, -1/+7This made my eyes pop - then I frowned - turned my eyes to the side - then closed them- I then found myself bowing my head.
Then, and only then did I SLAP MY HEAD ***** SILLY. - inactive, on 10/10/2008, -0/+6Throwing money at a problem will keep people employed during an economic downturn. And there are plenty of blue collar jobs to be had in the construction of services and systems that will be needed to power the new eco-economy.
- sulthernao, on 10/10/2008, -0/+6Think of a WPA program for alternate energy. We'd invest in the economy, which will cause business to have the ability to take advantage of the market, which will give lots of new jobs. These people will get their income and spend it right back into the economy which will have a nice multiplier and accelerator effect. This might not prevent a depression/long term recession, but it will certainly help diminish it.
- ChronicColonic, on 10/10/2008, -0/+6No you wouldn't.
- Zoomdor, on 10/10/2008, -5/+11No what im saying is biased "reports" are always full of crap.
- kiwiboyus, on 10/10/2008, -1/+7Way to miss the point people, clean energy is the new market. Instead of sitting on our asses America could lead the world in developing new clean energy and then sell the technology you know? Create jobs and money? Or you could just keep bitching about it being a scam and continue to pay and pay for oil.
- DivisibleByZero, on 10/10/2008, -1/+6A coworker of mine had an excellent point the other day: "There are places in Texas where you could stick a nuclear plant and nobody would even notice if it blew up"
I guess commuting would be a problem for the dudes working there, but we could probably pay them enough. - sulthernao, on 10/10/2008, -2/+7There is more radioactive material released by coal plants than nuclear plants. The sole problem with nuclear plants is that they have a waste product that we have to deal with, and that it is not a permanent solution to the energy crisis.
- sulthernao, on 10/10/2008, -1/+6Why is it a false claim? I'd think that it'd be obvious that if we put greenhouse gases into the atmosphere that there will be greenhouse gas like effects - that if we pump CO2 into the atmosphere, we will make it warmer.
- sulthernao, on 10/10/2008, -1/+6We do know what causes global warming - greenhouse gases. What exactly is the cause of the sharp increase in global warming right now? I'm strongly inclined to believe man made pollution.
- meddelem, on 10/10/2008, -1/+6the industries of years past have been filthy and evidently problematic.
business ventures that are built on sustainability&cleanliness will certainly spark a new era.
a business that installs solar panels = profitable enterprise.
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/norman_foster_s ... - roijen, on 10/10/2008, -0/+5Not to be mistaken as a political jab but why is the idea that global warming is man made such a hot issue?
If human activity over the past several hundred years is the fault it doesn't make you uniquely and solely at fault.
Maybe I just fail to understand the offense people take at this suggestion. - kiwiboyus, on 10/10/2008, -4/+9Buried for being to stupid to see a new market right in front of you. I guess some people like following rather than leading.
- VinnieDaMac, on 10/10/2008, -2/+6Maybe it's just me, but that's not a very good analogy, there actually IS a correlation between cigarettes and lung cancer.
- inactive, on 10/10/2008, -0/+4If New Scientist is propaganda, Encyclopedia Britannica is the Communist Manifesto,
- kalvinb, on 10/10/2008, -4/+8The only way clean energy is going to "fix" the economy is by providing a very large sector of business.
Much like building dams helped get us out of the depression.
The difference being that alternative energies are still in the research phase and not so much in the blue collar factory stage of producing the products in large quantities such as windmills.
The economy is largely correcting itself from years of giving out free money to people who couldn't pay it back. Stop giving money to unqualified people. Problem solved. - inactive, on 10/10/2008, -5/+9man-made global warming is a religion. accept that its c02 ***** ***** up or youre a heretic. its a scam for a global carbon tax, so they can tax you for breathing for being alive. ITS A SCAM! how can you tell? AL ***** GORE IS INVOLVED! The guy they picked to take a fall for Bush etc
- GeorgeWKush, on 10/10/2008, -2/+6Put a nuclear plant next to my lake. Nuclear energy's only by product is warm water. It would be nice to have a lake that isn't cold as *****.
- sulthernao, on 10/10/2008, -0/+3Actually, energy is a major problem in our economic problem. High prices of Oil has been fostering inflation across the board, which is really bad because even in the great depression there was deflation.
- omaryak, on 10/10/2008, -1/+4This sounds like it could serve as a Works Progress Administration for the 21st century to keep people employed if things get too much worse. These are things we need to be doing anyway; government assistance would be just one way to get it done.
- nick111, on 10/10/2008, -0/+3And your grandchildren are still going to be paying for Iraq. Get a grip.
Building weapons doesn't create net value. - Yarmin3, on 10/10/2008, -2/+5There's no more excuse that switching to clean energy will ruin the economy, we managed to do that anyways. Now is the time to take dramatic steps. If you think global warming is a hoax, then call it energy independence or something else, but if we achieve this goal we can solve so many problems:
1.Cut off revenue streams from rouge countries like Russia, Venezuela the whole Middle East. Did you know there's a negative correlation between democracy and oil revenue?
2.Reduce environmental damage from emissions, mountain leveling, river pollution, oil spills
3. Reduce energy prices long term because fossil fuel is finite and it will only get more expensive to tap into harder to reach resources. Clean energy is already cheaper but upfront cost are cheaper for fossil fuel because we all pay more in taxes to keep our energy supply coming (Iraq Wars I & II, military spending to keep shipping lanes open). - DivisibleByZero, on 10/10/2008, -1/+4I really don't like the "it would take 10 years" argument. People have been saying that for the past 20.
- ratexla, on 10/10/2008, -0/+3Please, take on this challenge. A piece of cake for you climate change deniers!
http://greenfyre.wordpress.com/2008/10/06/climate- ... - BrokenCircle, on 10/10/2008, -4/+7Global warming is causing a global economic crisis?
- slvrbullet87, on 10/10/2008, -0/+3Building tanks and bombs got us out of the depression
- nick111, on 10/10/2008, -3/+6Well actually, we are in agreement about what is causing climate change.
What you think is a "debate", isn't a debate - it's disinformation from oil-industry shills, and gulliable Americans going along with it because they've somehow managed to convince themselves that it's a political issue, rather than simply being common sense. The rest of the world has moved on... and renewables will be THE economic opportunity of the 21st Century.
And Investing in renewables is not the same as using tax money to buy bad debt.
You people are unbelievable. No wonder you're so ***** up. - Oatlord, on 10/11/2008, -0/+3" In fact I don't think any dirty energy is actually decreasing in cost."
Except that the price per barell of oil dropped again today to less than $78. - nick111, on 10/10/2008, -0/+3Not this one, but according to the Stern Report, commissioned by the Blair governement, the economic damage that climate change will do, is worse than the current crisis:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6096084.stm
And that's just economics.
See - this is part of the reason why the Blair government took Climate Change so seriously... the reason the Bush admin tried ignore it, laugh at it and interfere with the science is that not only are their sponsors the oil industry... they ARE the oil industry.
And miscellaneous cowards on digg, rather than face up to what's happening... have decided that the Bush admin and the oil industry and all the shills in their pay are telling the truth, and the global, peer-reviewed scientific community is involved in a conspiracy. - roijen, on 10/10/2008, -1/+4I don't know, I kind of like the looks of thousands of wind turbines on empty plains. Maybe it is just the engineer in me that gets geeked by the sight of so much technology.
- Seidoger, on 10/10/2008, -4/+7I wouldn't consider New Scientist as junk so quick..
- sulthernao, on 10/10/2008, -0/+3If we create jobs in the energy sector we are investing assets that will increase productivity. We will be creating new jobs, whose income will be spent right back into the economy raising the GDP and speeding the economy back up.
- Kenzan, on 10/10/2008, -0/+3Exactly.
It's easier to point a finger than to lift a finger. - inactive, on 10/10/2008, -1/+4 49 Species go extinct a day. Humanity can't even look after the Animals right.
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