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- MacroDaemon, on 06/24/2008, -4/+35We're so self-important. Everybody's going to save something now. "Save the trees, save the bees, save the whales, save those snails." And the greatest arrogance of all: save the planet. Save the planet, we don't even know how to take care of ourselves yet. Besides, there is nothing wrong with the planet. Compared to the people, the planet is doing great.
The planet has been through a lot worse than us. Been through earthquakes, volcanoes, plate tectonics, continental drift, solar flares, sun spots, magnetic storms, the magnetic reversal of the poles ... hundreds of thousands of years of bombardment by comets and asteroids and meteors, worldwide floods, tidal waves, worldwide fires, erosion, cosmic rays, recurring ice ages ... And we think some plastic bags and some aluminum cans are going to make a difference? The planet isn't going anywhere. WE ARE!
We're going away. Pack your *****, folks. We're going away. And we won't leave much of a trace, either. Maybe a little Styrofoam ... The planet'll be here and we'll be long gone. Just another failed mutation. Just another closed-end biological mistake. An evolutionary cul-de-sac. The planet'll shake us off like a bad case of fleas.
The planet will be here for a long, long, LONG time after we're gone, and it will heal itself, it will cleanse itself, 'cause that's what it does. It's a self-correcting system. The air and the water will recover, the earth will be renewed.
- George Carlin - zelig, on 06/24/2008, -4/+26Buy Carbon Credits! Make Al Gore rich (er)!
- ElvisNixon, on 06/24/2008, -1/+12You didn't know Al sells 'em?
- leerayIG88, on 06/24/2008, -2/+13I hope science will create a magical pill that will increase the size of my penis.
- inactive, on 06/24/2008, -2/+10Because he is heavily invested in carbon offset companies. Sry if I just walked all over your hero. Al is a capitalist and an opportunist.
- ElvisNixon, on 06/24/2008, -3/+10Not made up by-
made rich by. - shadowman99, on 06/24/2008, -3/+10I would just like to say to any big polluting companies out there: I'm willing to be your carbon offset. I'm not polluting nearly as much as you, so if you would like to pay me a lot of money, we can balance each other. I'll even plant a few saplings. What do you like, Maple Trees? Cottonwoods? Heck, I already have a row of volunteers growing on my property line.
Just email me and I'll tell you where to send the check. - inactive, on 06/24/2008, -4/+9This doesn't answer the better question, which is does it really matter if we reduce carbon emissions a few percent? Or, by how much would we need to reduce carbon emissions to have a meaningful impact? I have no doubt bailing out a sinking boat with a spoon reduces the amount of water that would normally be in the boat, but if its still going to sink anyway and my efforts only delay that by a second or two, my efforts might have been spent doing something else.
- inactive, on 06/24/2008, -0/+5The Pope used to sell "offsets".
Carbon, the sin of the 21st century. - ralph12c41, on 06/24/2008, -5/+10Scam...suckers....Big Al will laugh all the way to the bank.
- 8347, on 06/24/2008, -1/+6I ran over my neighbors cat yesterday! I felt so bad I donated $5 dollars to the Humane Society and now everything is fine!!
- inactive, on 06/24/2008, -2/+7Get rich scheme hasnt hit its end yet? Are people so dumb to believe this *****?
Other offsets that should be considered...
War offsets
***** offsets
VD offsets
Penis enlarger offsets - dekuscrub, on 06/24/2008, -2/+6Buried. More carbon footprint *****.
Notice they stopped calling it "global warming" and started calling it "climate change" ? Gee I wonder why that is.... - TRScheel, on 06/24/2008, -1/+5Check your email
Its been done - inactive, on 06/24/2008, -6/+10Yes lets all get rid of carbon dioxide. Maybe when all plant life dies, because of we eliminate carbon in our atmosphere, we can all get Nobel Prizes.
- ostack, on 06/24/2008, -2/+6What a load of crap. buy offsets to make you feel better about how much of a carbon footprint you have? So, as long as you have enough money, its not necessary to be responsible with your energy usage? Next they will force everyone to buy carbon offsets. And as mentioned before, who benefits from it? The groups that are promoting it (Al Gore?). Meanwhile the third world countries spew more trash into the air than we ever did, and no one seems to care. Biggest scam ever.
- inactive, on 06/24/2008, -0/+4This is what you ***** dont understand. Nobody, or at least the majority of people have no problem with creating green technologies and alternative energy sources.
We just dont want you ***** shoving it down our throats and creating LAWS that actually hurt more than they help especially when the "science" is not proven.
How many solar panels do you own? Electric car? Are you willing to give up the internet to save the world? - TRScheel, on 06/24/2008, -2/+5Or what does it matter if we reduce our carbon if India,China, etc get a free pass
- inactive, on 06/24/2008, -2/+5I hope you hippies enjoy
George Carlin at his best » http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljNDbKpusT0
RIP - monoa, on 06/24/2008, -0/+3Well, if you're not sure, go read some science. That's what I did. Turned out to be really enlightening.
- serif69, on 06/25/2008, -0/+3How many carbon credits do I need for a spider ring?
- rgladstein, on 06/24/2008, -5/+8I wonder how many people are doing this, and whether the numbers have decreased since fuel prices -- and I assume airfares -- have gone up so much.
- jbschwi, on 06/24/2008, -0/+2The Top 10 Reasons Digg Users Like Top 10 Lists In the Top 5 Countries Who Use the Top 15% of the Internet For the Top 10 Popular Stories.... christ
- Brian48216, on 06/24/2008, -1/+3Yes, carbon is a closed cycle, but it exists in various forms. The concern is excessive amounts of carbon in the atmosphere as opposed to locked up in the ground.
Yes- while plants need CO2, they cannot "thrive" in a very enriched atmosphere. In fact, they need to absorb O2 through the soil. Cellular respiration produces CO2, it's just that they fix more of it into O2 during the day.
I could go on and on but you're just making some ridiculously broad assumptions. - greenfyre, on 06/25/2008, -0/+2Here is a great example of the reality of how increased CO2 is helping plants to grow http://digg.com/environment/48_Wildfires_Currently ...
- Buddhaismybuddy, on 06/24/2008, -3/+5Multiply that effort by 6 billion people and thats a lot of spoons and a lot of seconds saved. Lead by example.
- TRScheel, on 06/24/2008, -1/+3You need to make a slide show about it to win a Nobel Prize
- monoa, on 06/24/2008, -1/+3And that goes to show why you don't get your science from a comedian.
- bremstrong, on 06/24/2008, -1/+3Another option that is very direct is to buy stock in renewable energy companies or renewable energy mutual funds. And you might make money too, unlike a carbon offset.
- TRScheel, on 06/24/2008, -0/+2Cuz 20 years ago it was global cooling, then it was global warming, now its cooling again. So to stop flip flopping they just said screw it, the world's climate is changing! Its all our fault! Pay me money to fix it!
- Buddhaismybuddy, on 06/24/2008, -3/+5I guess you haven't heard of deforestation.
- InfiniteNothing, on 06/24/2008, -1/+3Why does it have to be "or" Why not do both: decrease consumption and at the same time donate money to make it financially possible for a business who has to stay competitive to reduce carbon emissions.
- greenfyre, on 06/25/2008, -0/+2re: plant growth and CO2 - oversimplified and basically wrong in any practical sense
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/12/02120 ...
http://environment.newscientist.com/channel/earth/ ... - madrona, on 06/24/2008, -1/+3Carbon offsets--I think a better name is carbon indulgences. Where's Tetzel when you need him? "As soon as a coin in the coffer rings / the planet from warming springs."
- inactive, on 06/24/2008, -1/+2It depends if our decrease offsets their increase enough to matter. However, given global temperatures actually decreased in 2007 as carbon emissions hit another peak, along with other data, I'm not convinced carbon emissions cause global warming, so I'm even more unconvinced that small decreases in carbon emissions will accomplish anything. If someone had a working model that explained this and said "If we can reduce worldwide carbon emissions by 5% over 2007 levels, then the world will cool .5 degrees in the next decade" that would go a long way towards deciding if it is worth doing.
- inactive, on 06/24/2008, -1/+2General Custer lead by example and hi,m and his men were annihilated. The trick in leading is to know that the actions you are ordering actually accomplish the goal.
- monoa, on 06/24/2008, -1/+2Hope you're better at SEO than science, 'cos man - you suck.
- greenfyre, on 06/25/2008, -0/+1So you get your science and ethics from a comedian?
Wait, I guess that makes some sense given that we now get our comedy from the White House and religous figures. - greenfyre, on 06/25/2008, -0/+1Of course another option would be to ditch the spoon and grab a bucket or pump http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2007/2/7/154510/6 ...
But yeah, if you are determined to do too little too late then you may as well not bother. - 8347, on 06/24/2008, -5/+6Cool now I can cut down a few acres of rain forest to build my new house and just make a donation to a Carbon Offset program! I'm sure Al Gore will tell me how proud he is. That is if he can get to his phone - he's either in his big mansion that he had built or on his private jet.
- InfiniteNothing, on 06/24/2008, -0/+1Save the ***** sapiens!
- ralph12c41, on 06/25/2008, -0/+1If you think us humans can destroy the plant you have an over inflated estimation of your/our power. We didn't create it and we damned sure won't destroy it.
- greenfyre, on 06/25/2008, -0/+1They are not asking for a free pass, they are asking for equity and justice. Oddly, they are generously willing to ignore the fact that we caused 80% of the problem and instead suggest that we all agree to the same per capita quota for everyone, regardless of race, creed, colour, or past behaviour.
- TRScheel, on 06/25/2008, -0/+1You are a fool if you don't see the politics lining the 'science' of global warming. Whether you are a skeptic or a believer, you cannot profess to have 100% certainty that what you believe is truth. There mere fact that Al Gore came out and said 'The debate is over' cemented my belief otherwise.
If the debate was really over he would challenge people to contradict it. Not shut them down for attempting to do so.
This whole fiasco is a pseudo-science in which believers are touted as men marked by God and skeptics are akin to those with leprosy.
The day global warming fanatics embrace the challengers of their belief/theory is the day I will give them credence. Until then I hope you recognize it is merely a THEORY. Be clean, please do so, but don't expect everyone to follow your lead as is their god given right. - Buddhaismybuddy, on 06/25/2008, -0/+1yes
- builderburger, on 06/24/2008, -1/+2Buried to offset the insane indoctrination that carbon dioxide is a pollutant. Bwahahahahaha!
- barstegry, on 06/24/2008, -2/+3Could you mail this check to the National Organization for Women so I can go home and beat my wife?....er...
- TruthExposed, on 06/25/2008, -0/+1There is little to no CO2 in oil. CO2 is a product of the oxidization of oil products, like gasoline.
- inactive, on 06/24/2008, -0/+1They're both equally rediculous.
- inactive, on 06/25/2008, -1/+2Get rid of Al and Tipper Gore and that will solve everything.
Stop your crying people and learn to be less of a hypocrite. Its the Democrats that are the ones wanting ethanol, just to line they're pockets with, green money, instead of, oil money, which if you look Ted Kennedy is a major oil mogul and he loves the fact that you all are paying high prices. If we didn't have Ethanol, we, wouldn't have the problem with, soy and corn commodities or probably even Oil. Remember, Ethanol is more harmful to the environment! Blow this carbon credits jargon out your ass talk about a hypocrisy.
Stop buying your Beer and Drugs and Cigarettes and then that will offset your travel funds, and think of your kids, instead of yourselves, for once! -
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