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- jon30041, on 11/24/2007, -0/+14With the money he's saving instead of paying utilities, he can buy the new panels. Then... Maybe sell the hydrogen, eventually buy a hydrogen fuel-cell car, and.. be totally set forever.
Now he needs a greenhouse and a garden, and he's set! - Masako, on 11/24/2007, -2/+12Really quite impressive, and I hope we see this spread to the mainstream.
- inactive, on 11/24/2007, -1/+9Hmm. The hydrogen is stored in ten 1000 gallon tanks on the property.
Yippee ki yay, ***** - sanman, on 11/24/2007, -0/+6Maybe if ultracapacitors become common enough and cheap enough, he could use those instead.
After all, capacitors can be charged and discharged for unlimited numbers of cycles. - greevar, on 11/24/2007, -1/+7H2O, is there anything it can't provide us? Beer, heating, cooling, recreation, clean efficient energy, and the list goes on...
- smartmlp, on 11/24/2007, -2/+7Batteries will need to be eventually replaced.. Its also more environmentally friendly since you are not dealing with the batteries that eventually need to be disposed of. I am not sure about this last part, but I am almost sure that you can get more energy per pound out of hydrogen then you can out of a battery.
- sanman, on 11/24/2007, -0/+5Here's a videoclip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEdQRVQtffw
Also:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/20/magazine/20solar ... - derwarnochfrei, on 11/24/2007, -0/+4Sorry, not true: This is the first one (from 1992!):
http://www.oekosiedlungen.de/energieautarkes-solar ... - macaca, on 11/24/2007, -0/+3Please watch the video here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEdQRVQtffw He still uses the minimum of 12 batteries. But still very impressive and I can see a future of his system.
- ritchmaster, on 11/24/2007, -3/+6People, this is our future right there.
- kahrn, on 11/24/2007, -0/+2I have, thanks. I think you failed to realize that there were question marks in my comment, yet you couldn't even be bothered to form a decent reply.
It's my understanding that plastics are created from the same process in which we create petrol, diesel and various other fuels. AKA Cracking. It's to my understanding that many of the plastics we rely on today require this process for their production. The question I'm asking which you could not be bothered to remotely explain in any form is this - how can we continue to produce many of the plastics we require without the oil? - derwarnochfrei, on 11/24/2007, -0/+2Why? You being a smartass?
- 11Heather, on 11/24/2007, -3/+5Commendable. The new breakthrough solar panels will mean that this guys bucks could have been saved if he had waited a year.
- tips2berich, on 11/24/2007, -0/+2This technology would have to be brought within the reach of people, to see a far better impact on environment. It would be good if this technology could be provided at cheap rates in the third world nations to avoid pollution and negative impacts on the environments..
- jtzapp, on 11/24/2007, -0/+2That's when landfill mining will become an overnight industry!
- riggs32, on 11/24/2007, -0/+2dugg for beer being the first thing on the list of essentials lol
- londubh, on 11/24/2007, -0/+2My ex-wife would say that we had a methane house. I tried telling her those were barking spiders or it was the cats but nooooooh, she wouldn't believe me.
- vimau, on 11/24/2007, -0/+2first in the US perhaps...
http://www.allbusiness.com/construction/4356833-1. ...
"Date: Wednesday, May 12 2004
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The U.S. sustainability movement still seems outpaced by green design advances in Europe and Asia. Most recently, the first entirely self-sustainable house, the so-called Solar-Hydrogen Eco-House, is up and running at the Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia's engineering faculty," - kahrn, on 11/24/2007, -3/+5It's all well and good developing new ways to produce electricity and such, but what happens when the oil runs out and we can no longer produce plastics? How the ***** are you supposed to replace the parts that will be made of plastics?
- sdcarter, on 11/25/2007, -0/+2I'm all forr hydrogen power; but 10 1,000 gallon hydrogen tanks? I mean, isn't that a little unsafe? I'm sure they're buried; but what happens if something goes wrong? I'm not sure I want to be sleeping next to 10,000 gallons of compressed hydrogen.
- jeffiek, on 11/24/2007, -1/+2You hope to see $500,000 home heating systems????????
- vimau, on 11/24/2007, -0/+10.o
http://www.allbusiness.com/construction/4356833-1. ... - vimau, on 11/24/2007, -0/+1"Fehler 404: Die URL (Internetdresse), die Sie eingebeben haben, ist ungültig."
I don't think this is the first time either. - vimau, on 11/24/2007, -0/+1I fail digg...
ends with h t m l - inactive, on 11/24/2007, -1/+2Interesting, but impractical at this stage of the technology. $500K is way beyond the pocketbook of most people (with or without the taxpayer subsidy) and no one, except possibly al the inventor and other eco-hypocrites, would use that much energy in a lifetime.
- inactive, on 11/24/2007, -0/+1At the price of 500,000 I doubt he is saving much. Its worse when you have to take into account that in 5 years he will probably have to replace a lot of the components. The fuel cells will need to be replaced in 40,000 hours according to Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_Cell#Fuel_cell_d ... (8760 hours in a year), although they might not be in use all the time depending on how the system works.
Solar panels them selfs seem to have a fairly nice life of 20 years although its dependent on the panel (some are 3 some are 30). - Hosalabad, on 11/25/2007, -0/+1Yeah we should all wait a year to do something.
- EBFoxbat, on 11/24/2007, -0/+1The first caveman who lit a fire in ahis cave was he first house to run completely from "homemade energy". Over hyping things doesn't help. I assure you I'm as excited as the next guy but lets be realistic.
It needs to cost < $50,000 when building a home for it to be mainstream. There's still a lot of way to go. - Jason4000, on 11/25/2007, -0/+1Prototypes are always expensive on time an money. In that NY times article linked above it says that the second one should be costing around a 100k now that he knows how to do it. He does have a pretty big home with the big screen tv and hot tub OWW. The fuel cell he is using is over sized for the project and we have that thin film stuff coming from Nanosolar soon for 30 cents a watt. They talk about using the H2 for your car so that has to be a cost savings to be considered as well . It won't be long when this stuff is brought down to a fine art.
- Hosalabad, on 11/25/2007, -0/+1Not really. You just put a lot of money in your bank's pocket. Read up on mortgages.
- moebis, on 11/24/2007, -0/+1This guy is my neighbor. I remember when he made the news several months ago (was a frontpage story on digg). I've been thinking about visiting him to write a more in-depth article the use of this renewable technology, that he employed so elegantly.
- inactive, on 11/24/2007, -0/+1Storing hydrogen is functionally equivalent to a "battery" in that energy is stored for later use. Your question really should be "is stored hydrogen a better 'battery' than lead-acid or lithium ion style cells".
In terms of environmental impact, yes stored hydrogen is better. In terms of energy density, current cost, safety...hard to say, but the science and manufacturing techniques are improving daily, so we can see where the future benefits lie. - inactive, on 11/24/2007, -0/+1Even at today's prices, I spend no more than $2K annually for heat and electricity in the northern snow belt because of my conservation measures. Somehow I don't expect to find a bank which will believe I'll live 250 years to pay off that note. AS I SAID, this might work for "al the inventor and other eco-hypocrites" (johnny haircut's NC mansion comes to mind), but not for anyone with a normal home.
- camg188, on 11/24/2007, -0/+0It is important that this technology is continually advanced with projects like this. This was more of a proof of concept project because the high price tag. Based on my own energy bill, it would take me over 100 years before the energy bill savings would match the cost of the system.
Maybe some type of NASA-like organization for the development of alternate energy sources would speed up development. - gredsen, on 11/24/2007, -1/+1If you take out a mortgage it becomes more manageable, and it will eventually pay for its self.
- lauarasis2c, on 05/19/2009, -0/+0Storage tanks have been used in other forms of energy storage for ages and they can be stored underground. Such tech is developing one doesn't have to stop developing for improvement to appreciate the significant commitment to bloodless, killer free, culturally neutral, this particular new way of providing energy. Hope you actually want solutions not just drama...
- The_Doctor, on 11/24/2007, -0/+0Again... not the first. I have toured this house...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7951846/ - vvaduva, on 11/24/2007, -2/+2"Total cost was $500,000 to produce the system and half of the cost was paid by a grant from the New Jersey Board of Public Utilities"
What a load of crap! I would love to do this if I could get taxpayers to cover the cost. So he did NOT construct the first "green" house - his neighbors did. Buried for misleading description. - larcher01, on 11/30/2007, -0/+0BEER = GOOD!
- larcher01, on 11/30/2007, -0/+0Remember the Hindenberg? Oh wait - I think that was helium... maybe not. Whatever. The concept is really cool, and since this is the first (or, um almost), the technology will only improve. I say kudos to the designers/builders/owners.
Check this out - nice eco-friendly gift:
www.eradicatedcarbon.com - antisthenex, on 11/24/2007, -5/+5Wait...
Why bother with the hydrogen part? Why not just use solar panels and a normal battery? - inactive, on 11/24/2007, -2/+2Fail.
- lauarasis2c, on 05/19/2009, -0/+0Because battery alone can not perform all the storage that hydrogen gas can. The hydrogen gas is clean, safe, and unlimited as a source of energy. The use of hydrogen gas makes the use of Nuclear less cost effective because it is so much safer.
- jeffiek, on 11/24/2007, -3/+2Try taking a chemistry class.
- waitasec, on 11/24/2007, -5/+2Bet Bryan Beaulieu is kinda pissed that he didn't win this title two years ago. I mean sure...maybe the Malaysian University edged him out by a bit, but to give it to a guy two years late to the game?
- hirshi, on 11/24/2007, -6/+1I mean, it's no smart house
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_House )
...but it's overwhelmingly green, like a fresh and glistening salad. Mmm. - Richandler, on 11/24/2007, -10/+4I'm not a "OH MY GOD! GLOBAL WARMING! YOU GOTTA DO SOMETHING!" guy. But I would totally be for having a solar and hydrogen powered house..
- inactive, on 11/24/2007, -9/+1b


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