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- stillpissed, on 11/16/2008, -3/+70Uhhh... yes he can, he can see the need to switch away from a dying energy industry into a brand new one full of opportunities to make him even richer
- pintomp3, on 11/16/2008, -12/+44t. boone is jumping on the green bandwagon and steering it his way. he wants government subsidies to give him land and water rights. he is a despicable man who spent millions to discredit a veteran.
http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/16/john-kerry-to-sw ... - schnikies79, on 11/16/2008, -3/+32I don't care if it makes him (more) rich or not. If it works, go with it.
- Skab, on 11/16/2008, -28/+50This billionaire can't possibly have any ulterior motives to switch our main energy source from something that's made him rich to something else entirely. Naaawwwww
- yevkasem, on 11/16/2008, -2/+23who gives a *****, it's a good plan and if he gets rich off his good ideas, good for him.
- pintomp3, on 11/16/2008, -2/+21if he didn't care about money, why doesn't he pay out on the swift boat challenge?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swift_Boat_challenge - ironhide, on 11/16/2008, -2/+21I'm amazed how many people don't realize that the best way to switch to alternative energy is to find a way to make it profitable.
- MidnightRIder77, on 11/16/2008, -10/+29He has enough money to where making more is pointless, and he's 80 years old. He's close to death why make more money? He's an intelligent man and I bet he cares more about helping this nation than making another an amount of money minuscule in comparison to how much he already has.
- frieddonuts, on 11/16/2008, -2/+19I support the basic rationale behind Pickens' plan but Prop 10 was too preferential towards natural gas. It was closing the market to other clean forms of energy by giving him an unfair advantage.
- MidnightRIder77, on 11/16/2008, -3/+19The government should, however ensure that countries/organizations that would take pleasure in crippling our economy for extra cash (Middle East/OPEC as they proved in the 70s) can not do that. In order to do this they must try to get us off Foreign Oil. I'm a hardcore capitalist and an objectivist that believes the government has no right interfering with our economy as I bet you are but I'm not moronic. I wouldn't let the country burn so I could live up to my ideals.
BTW, Ayn Rand is amazing. - Ontrackmac, on 11/16/2008, -5/+21Seems like a nobel plan for America...There is more to his plan than meets the eye of course.
Dallas Morning News:
A LOOK AT THE PICKENS PLAN
•The plan relies on a combination of wind power and natural gas to displace a significant amount of petroleum used for transportation. And Mr. Pickens has a lot of money tied up in wind and natural gas.
•Mr. Pickens' power company, Mesa Power LLP, is planning a $10 billion wind farm in the Texas Panhandle and has already ordered $2 billion worth of turbines.
•Mr. Pickens is majority shareholder of Clean Energy, the largest supplier of natural gas for transportation in America. The company has lost money since 2006 and faces more losses in 2008 as it expands its natural gas fueling infrastructure. Clean Energy has underwritten a California ballot initiative that would boost demand for its product by subsidizing the cost of vehicles that run on natural gas.
More - tecmoney, on 11/16/2008, -2/+17you had me at "t. boone pickens". such an awesome name
- hooah212002, on 11/16/2008, -4/+18What planet are you from where there is such thing as too much money? or "enough" money?
- Bub978, on 11/16/2008, -1/+14This, right here. He knows where the money is, and it's not going to be in oil for much longer.
- lacunatech, on 11/16/2008, -0/+13I like this about Digg. You see a guy on the Daily Show, he looks cool like hes got everything together and then theres a story about him on Digg to which people respond with many terrible facets of his side of the story. i.e. Swiftboat challenge, personal gain having invested in Natural Gas and Wind energy. Just goes to show, there's two sides to every story.
- okayokayokay, on 11/16/2008, -3/+15I wouldn't know about T. Boone Pickens if I hadn't seen him on the Daily Show.
How ***** up is THAT? - alexkreuz, on 11/16/2008, -1/+13You live under a rock. He's been all over the place on TV.
- benologist, on 11/16/2008, -0/+11And yet we applaud when Google invests in potential alternative energy solutions.
- rifdawg, on 11/16/2008, -4/+15There's generally a reason why people become millionaires. They're usually smarter and have more foresight than the average person, so I'm pretty sure that, while Pickens has a stake in this plan, he obviously thinks it's a good idea.
- Rivetgeek, on 11/16/2008, -2/+12get it through your thick skull, Ron Paul will NEVER be president. And that's a good thing. For *****'s sake, the man wants to overturn Roe V Wade.
- bludragn0, on 11/16/2008, -1/+9@arkyboysooner
It's become a form of rhetoric in itself because of the way it's used in real life. It doesn't say that the person isn't sure of the right words to use, but rather signals that they disagree with the other person and also questions his/her logic, rationality, and the soundness of their argument or statement. - hugolp, on 11/16/2008, -1/+9You know mainly Democrats voted for the bail out, dont you?
- inactive, on 11/16/2008, -2/+10I'm curious, then. Why does Boone have his hand out for government subsidies? (I'm sure, if it happens, the corporate welfare will be called "capitalism," especially if it fails!)
- roofview, on 11/16/2008, -0/+8I'm just about to sit down with one of his cousins T bone steak.
- labizau, on 11/16/2008, -1/+9"I've gotta go. T. Boone Pickens just walked in."
- seastobble, on 11/16/2008, -1/+9not that it pertains to anything about Picken's Plan... but you guys should see his house. it's amazing. roman aqueducts connecting his two ponds.
- arjie, on 11/16/2008, -1/+8Me too, but I have a Boone T. Pick(en) with his plan.
- CRCulver, on 11/16/2008, -1/+8Is this a troll? Do you have any idea how much it costs to launch a rocket per pound/kilogram? And what do rockets run on? Liquid fuel.
- Rivetgeek, on 11/16/2008, -0/+7Well that and the fact that he invested a billion dollars in wind energy...
- hugolp, on 11/16/2008, -3/+9And where is Obama going to get the money to do all this?
- bitsculptor, on 11/16/2008, -5/+11Picken's lost all credibility when he tried to rob California's coffers to fatten his own pocketbook with Prop 10. Now he's hoping the nation will be foolish enough to enrich his investment in non-renewable energy. ***** off Pickens.
- nellyspageli, on 11/16/2008, -1/+7so, by the same logic, Bill Gates is evil because he is a billionaire. don't even mention that he made businesses waaaay more efficient with computers.
- fluxion, on 11/16/2008, -3/+9heh...if we werent talking about mr. pickens id buy that reasoning. there's definetely a motive here....likely financial....but THATS A GOOD THING. the hopes of alternative energy becoming widely adopted rest on its commercial viability, not sunshine and lollipops (okay...maybe sunshine..lol). we can only fund it for so long before it needs to stand on its own. its almost there, if not already, pickens sees this.
- Leviathan433, on 11/16/2008, -2/+8stillpissed, sarcasm - sarcasm, stillpissed. talk amongst yourselves.
- pintomp3, on 11/16/2008, -2/+8yeah, let's leave everything up to companies like enron. that'll solve all our problems.
- SiXiam, on 11/16/2008, -5/+11So what happens to natural gas prices...?
You know the thing a lot of people in the US heat their homes with... - inactive, on 11/16/2008, -0/+5Until he's called Poon Dickens, not so awesome now is it?
- chickenloco, on 11/16/2008, -11/+16Although he may make money off the plan - SOMEONE has to take the lead and get America off foreign oil. He just happened to be the one who is brave (and rich) enough to go forward with it.
- zaffir, on 11/16/2008, -0/+5Links to more info on the details of his plan? That article could have been one sentence: "Obama likes Pickens' plan to implement natural gas in heavy industry vehicles, renewable sources for other electrical needs."
- sonofabeast, on 11/16/2008, -5/+10Can we please pursue clean energy without pandering to this billionaire? Since he's so heavily invested in the industry, he will profit. Let's not let him draft our energy policy.
- thunderclap, on 11/16/2008, -0/+4Bill gates is evil. He had Tony stark help him build his first circuit boards.
- scoottie, on 11/16/2008, -0/+4Actually Pickens is more aligned with Pelosi and Reed
- ironhide, on 11/16/2008, -1/+5The millionaires are the ones that put up the money. What is the alternative, take up a collection?
- Slackdragon, on 11/16/2008, -0/+4There's a general discomfort in most peoples minds about shooting the stuff into space.
Because, imagine if what happened on the Space Shuttle Challenger, in 1986, happened on a rocket with thousands of pounds of spent nuclear fuel. The debris field would be dangerous and extensive.
Now, invent a payload delivery system with a proven infallibility record and you'd be a very rich man. - TheTaoOfBill, on 11/16/2008, -1/+5uhh...
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If that's all it takes to drive you crazy then you should probably see a shrink. - angryfirelord, on 11/16/2008, -2/+6The problem I have with his plan is that he seems intent on mainly using natural gas for cars. I think the future of automotive power lies with either hydrogen or electricity, whichever is refined first. Instead, he should direct natural gas (and maybe propane as well) to consumer appliances (such as furnaces) and for companies that want to move off the grid. I know my father is involved with a big project at his plant that is seeking to drill their own natural gas well so they can move off the grid in order to stay in business.
- BlueAyez, on 11/16/2008, -7/+11Seems to me he's looking at giving away money. It will take about 1Bn to build the farms and the power grid to carry the energy. He won't see very much return. But he does have the chance to create a legacy for his family and the nation.
Maybe it's time to quit looking a gift horse in the mouth. - itsontheway, on 11/16/2008, -3/+7I can´t believe nobody has mentioned this: Boone´s Plan, if you look closely, is about water. That is, yes, he wants to put up all those fancy wind turbines and what not, but the catch is, if he builds on the land, he gets the water rights under neath them.
T. Boone´s doesnt care about new energy, he´s betting water is the new oil. I would google him before you start eating up his misleading rhetoric. - seastobble, on 11/16/2008, -2/+6dude, he's like 80. and a billionaire. he really could care less about making MORE money. haven't you heard him speak? he touts this as OUR problem... this generation... not his. more than likely he won't be around to see a country not dependent on oil, but he hopes we can understand that it is necessary and will have to happen sooner or later.
- Gerz1219, on 11/16/2008, -1/+5If you're an 80 year old billionaire, what incentive do you have to make more billions? He won't be around to enjoy the money and his heirs are already guaranteed a huge fortune. The only conclusion I can reach is that he'd rather his legacy be associated with alternative energy than with the old oil-based energy economy that made him rich. This, of course, does not guarantee that his plan is flawless, but it seems a lot more sensible and practical than "Drill, baby, drill".
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