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- aguitarhero, on 03/08/2008, -1/+20Denmark = Danish
Netherlands = Dutch
Solar Collecting Roads Heat Buildings in the Netherlands
You don't know how frustrating it gets being a Dane in England. - eddy23170, on 03/08/2008, -0/+13malarkey...only during rush hour....
- ALyken, on 03/25/2008, -1/+12This idea is of sci-fi-movie proportions. There seems to be some mix-up between the Netherlands and Denmark though.
- eddy23170, on 03/08/2008, -2/+13and another Quagillion dollars to fight terrorism.......sigh
- Nillerus, on 03/08/2008, -0/+11Hey, I live in Denmark.... this is great, why haven't I heard of this?
Right, because I'm not dutch. Damn. Here in Denmark our government has been doing its best to sabotage any eco-friendly initiatives for some time now, and we were doing so well... sigh. Is it a coincidence that our prime minister spent last week on president Bush's Texan ranch, drinking pure unrefined oil, and gushing about how much he loves him some hamburger? I THINK NOT! Now hand over the Nobel prize already, I've got it aaaall figured out. - Strawgate, on 03/08/2008, -4/+12Theres a reason why they haven't done this already. Roads need constant repair and repaving, making this an expensive alternative to roof time pipe heating. Putting this in roads would mean that if the system failed you would need to tear up the entire road in order to find the problem, stopping traffic and causing numerous other problems.
- AndreasTh, on 03/08/2008, -2/+9Denmark != Dutch
Sweden != Swiss
^^ - GreyICE, on 03/08/2008, -0/+6Of course a large part of the repair and repaving is caused by thermal expansion and contraction, which wouldn't be happening as much here.
Also, they laid a reinforced grid system. - acdcfanbill, on 03/08/2008, -1/+7While not in England, I have to lament that we Danes have fallen a long way, from ruling all of Scandinavia to being mistaken for the Dutch. :(
- Elliuotatar, on 03/08/2008, -0/+5Also he's forgetting that the cars themselves heat the road. Heat from the engine, heat from the exhaust...
- gossipninja, on 03/08/2008, -0/+4germany does this, its called seasonal thermal storage, or something like that. That have it in a super insulated container. Sure you are gonna get heat loss, but it can be minimized with very thick, airtight insulation and thermal mass such as concrete and clay.
- michelsonmorley, on 03/08/2008, -0/+4There's nothing like this in Denmark. Instead, 20% of Denmarks power comes from wind energy (more then any other country), so let's applaud both the Danes and the Dutch.
- PhillipJFry, on 03/09/2008, -0/+3I used to live in DK
I have NO idea why people confuse the two really...The worst is when people forget that it's even a country and think it's a city in Holland... - PhillipJFry, on 03/09/2008, -0/+2Also, the fatal flaw:
When does the sun ever shine in Denmark? - Elliuotatar, on 03/08/2008, -0/+2If the system failed, wouldn't that mean water would leak out and erode a portion of the roadway? That would be pretty easy to find.
- bubba9999, on 03/09/2008, -0/+2look at the picture accompanying the article. the cold water system doesn't go through the road - it just uses ground cooling.
it does produce chocolate though - good call. - S2000, on 03/09/2008, -0/+1Wait.....ways of harnessing and using energy that doesn't benefit our big oil/gas/electricity overlords? Buried for sensationalism.
- moletimer, on 03/09/2008, -0/+1Holland = Hollandic? Hollandish? Dutch?
Excuse me for my ignorance and confusion. - Octaman, on 03/08/2008, -0/+1Correctomundo. This article has absolutely nothing to do with Denmark. Ooms Avenhorn Holding BV is a Dutch company, and Avenhorn & Hoorn are cities in the Netherlands.
- 0ceanic, on 03/08/2008, -1/+2holy *****!
why didnt i think of storing the heat during the summer and releasing it during the winter? - marsbeyond, on 03/10/2008, -0/+1Man I wish the current generation would take some basic engineering classes. For those of you who think that you would have to tear up the road to fix the pipes consider how easy it would be to have the pipes below the section of road suffering the wear. For those of you who don't understand the cooling effect wiki refrigeration.
- inactive, on 03/12/2008, -0/+1Petition:
We, the undersigned, call on the Governments of the world to use some common sense when distributing Energy subsidies.
Why must the taxpayer subsidise the largest cause of man-made Global Warming(Fossil Fuel electricity generation) whilst alternative energy solutions such as Solar Thermal are forced to struggle?
Why must the consumer be asked to pay extra for "Green" Energy when his/her taxes are subsidising the very antithesis?
We, the undersigned, are not impressed with such hypocrisy.
http://www.gopetition.com/online/17583.html - motters, on 03/09/2008, -0/+1Provided that it's durable and reasonably economical to install this seems like a win-win situation for everyone. Residents get cheap heated water and the need for road maintenance is reduced due to removal of excess energy which usually causes damage from thermal expansion/contraction.
- lusher, on 03/08/2008, -1/+2you forget about nuclear waste.
- champ2153, on 03/09/2008, -0/+1"Solar Energy collected from a 200-yard stretch of road and a small parking lot helps heat a 70-unit four-story apartment building in the northern village of Avenhorn."
yea but how long does the 200 yard have to collect energy for, and then how long will it heat the apartment building for? - Nillerus, on 03/22/2008, -0/+1Touché :)
- aFoxy21, on 02/10/2009, -0/+0I don't care how "clean" nuclear energy gets - there's no way to really deal with the waste! And don't tell me all about how they're burying it safely underground -- that's just not sustainable over the long term.
Clean energy is clean through it's entire life-cycle. Period. - inactive, on 03/08/2008, -4/+4Fantastic idea. Too bad asphalt roads don't last long.
- Strawgate, on 03/12/2008, -0/+0Not everyone has money to be constantly repairing roads, however I think GreyICE has a good point, the slowing thermal expansion and contraction would slow road decay, but im still not sure it's the greatest idea.
- mhmdkhamis, on 06/01/2008, -0/+0We all had ideas like this as kids. Then as we got older we learned more and realized they wouldn't really be viable. If this company has made the cliche solar-powered road into a viable solution, that's pretty rad, but I'm skeptical.
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http://www.paramegsoft.com/ - doomgloom, on 03/02/2009, -0/+0Anyone who has ever had to slice vegetables knows: one sharp knife is better than infinity dull ones. To worry about nuclear "waste" is like worrying about how to discard a sharp knife when it loses its edge, because you're not allowed to sharpen it, because grindstones would cause sharp knife proliferation!
- Bassiman, on 03/10/2008, -0/+0Netherlands - They speak Dutch
Denmark - We speak Danish
Why is that confusing? Dude. You must have an IQ of 80 - mal1964, on 03/08/2008, -2/+2How about cars, Talk about convenience.
- inactive, on 03/08/2008, -3/+3Sounds impractical considering that most states that undergo continuous freeze/thaw cycles can't even build pothole proof roads, much less run pipes in the roads. What happens when the pipes break?
When looking at energy savings you have to look at the entire life cycle and you have to look at all of the factors.
Surprisingly, when you look at nuclear vs solar vs wind energy production, and you factor in everything from manufacturing, nuclear is far and away the "greenest" way to produce energy. - tsotha, on 03/08/2008, -1/+0You wouldn't want terrorists to blow it up, would you?
- HonestAbe, on 03/08/2008, -4/+3It's not our fault your countries have confusing names. Geeeeez.
- HonestAbe, on 03/09/2008, -3/+2How many people have been killed by nuclear waste?
How many people have been killed by collapsing wind turbines or thrown ice? - minmi, on 03/08/2008, -2/+1It's rational idea to store hot water in summer and use it to heat buildings in winter.
But how can we maintain it's temperture without consuming extra energy? - HonestAbe, on 03/08/2008, -4/+2I like to point out that nuclear is safer than wind, too, per kilowatt produced. Wind turbines produce a very small amount of energy compared to the amount of accidents they have.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7nSB1SdVHqQ
http://www.clowt.org.uk/Nissan%20Turbine%20Burning ... - inactive, on 03/08/2008, -5/+2i think roads must be repaired .
- HonestAbe, on 03/08/2008, -4/+1We all had ideas like this as kids. Then as we got older we learned more and realized they wouldn't really be viable. If this company has made the cliche solar-powered road into a viable solution, that's pretty rad, but I'm skeptical.
- RyeBrye, on 03/08/2008, -8/+3I've heard of this thought of for parking lots, but not for roads.
In America, areas with dense populations usually have roads that are extremely congested in the daytime, so the amount of sun that the road would get to do any heating would be minimal.
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