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- AttroPheed, on 10/25/2007, -0/+13Things you own end up owning you. -Tyler Durden
- repete, on 10/13/2007, -0/+10Actually, the point is, did you have a cup of coffee in a reusable mug instead of yet another disposable cup...:-)
- ZenMojo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12***** the iPhone and recycle your coke can. Simple.
- domc, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Spoken like a true american.
Classic! - wittyname, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Green Wave? Tulane fans would be appalled.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6The real point is "did you have coffee at all, or any other beverage you don't absolutely need?"
You don't need the Starbucks or any other coffee, mate. Stick to H2O and make it tap at that.
Calling all fellow eco-warriors: let's bash those Hollywood types that have more than one house and all that fancy bling/fashion they don't need. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10Step 1: do not drink anything other than tap water.
Step 2: do not buy any clothes or other "fashionable" items to make you look good -- just be functional
Step 3: all personal transportation has to be powered by renewable energy (bike, solar power, renewable sourced electric car)... Certainly no air travel.
Step 4: Until you've done at least one of the above, STFU. If you've done all 3, you can lecture and moralize as much as you like on the topic. I haven't done any, don't plan on doing any, and therefore cannot tell other people what to do.
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Definition: 1. feigned high principles: the false claim to or pretense of having admirable principles, beliefs, or feelings - HollowMarkeD, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7We all know we need to consume less don't we? The question really comes down to what YOU did TODAY to help; did you throw away your Starbucks coffee mug today or recycle it? We've all got to make it work together, is it possible?
- 40hands, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2You know what might help just a bit? Buying less from China. Less lead and less cheap ***** products that have to be replaced before you even leave the store.
- britoca, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2just use that freedon the right way, not wastefully, that's all
- britoca, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2adbusters.org
- britoca, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The people in the future thank you for not giving a damn about them. The species going extinct thank you right now.
- zengonzo, on 10/13/2007, -0/+2There's a bighuge difference between having a comfortable shelter and owning three or four enormous villas you rarely ever visit.
- TheUndertoker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Step 1: Sorry, I need flavor and/or carbonation in my drinks once in a while.
Step 2: Been doing this since college. I don't care if I 'look good' to others...as long as I'm comfortable.
Step 3: I have a car, but I rarely use it. I bike most places.
Just because I do these things, doesn't mean everyone else has to. Life is too short to give a ***** what your neighbor does. - jschrab, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The Gospel according to Fight Club still echoes in my mind too! The theatrical release anniversary is on Monday you know! (Oct. 15th)
- Error601, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I think we should work on the fixing the people that belong to the brain dead, stereotyping culture.
- scorchedearth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I do that everyday. :)
- cranium, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1... make sure it's not bottled H20!!!
- Richandler, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5The current debt system in America is the main problem. If people didn't buy, buy, buy the economy would collapse. We interest free debt plain and simple.
- rockefeller2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2The headphone jack is just big enough to accomodate me!!!!!
- cranium, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3LOL! Dude, you can just ***** right off. Humans didn't evolve to be vegetarian, we evolved as omnivores to support higher brain function. Every vegetarian I know is mildly insane or worse.
A person's diet is a health issue, it's NOT an environmental issue, unless your an over-the-top zealot. - britoca, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Look, it's simple, 1) too many people consuming, 2) only one world to consume.
The problem is real, either we deal with it, or we are only passing it to the next generation, who will have to deal with it at an even worse stage.
I think governments need to step in and cap our consumption/capita, oh yes I do. Capitalism on the loose is like a selfish, hedonistic, and ignorant child without parents telling him what not to do. We're teling u can't consume whatever u want to since it takes it's toll in the natural "warehouse" and u answer back "I WANT MORE CANDY!", get it?
Anyways, u might think I'm crazy, but nature and facts don't really care about what u think. There's only one important fact here, and that's that there's only one Earth that we depend on, and we're exhausting it and very fast. Our parents and grandparents and those before them dismissed the warnings as alarmist and unrealistic. Now you have depleted oceans, mass extinctions, mass pollution, global warming, blah blah blah. If u think this is a joke, jsut keep in mind that 75% of all new medicne comes from NATURE. That's right, the ***** we destroy to get that shiny new car, or the new clothes we probably keep for a handful of years only.
Perpetual growth is impossible and we better get that in our heads and fast. It's not anti-people, it's only anti-dillusion. - BigBlueCarbon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1how to go 100% green:
1. spending your net worth on carbon offsets at bigbluecarbon.com
2. eliminate your carbon footprint by killing yourself in a sealed container
do it for the children. - BigBlueCarbon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1soylent green is people!
- grumpyrain, on 10/13/2007, -0/+1> You don't need the Starbucks or any other coffee, mate.
OK, lets have none of this crazy talk. - BigBlueCarbon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1things you pwn end up pwning you
- DucoNihilum, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Consume less....
Hm....
what I NEED.....
I suppose we should all be living in abject poverty to rail against capitalism then, no? We don't NEED the internet in our homes. WE don't NEED much more than rice and bread. We don't NEED to live in homes not in the ghetto, infested with roaches.
This anti-consumerist movement is like the Green movement, it's anti-people. - inactive, on 06/06/2008, -1/+1Most importantly, get rid of that god damn automobile.
- DucoNihilum, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2We don't NEED homes. We can and should all live in sleeping bags! Homeless do it all the time, if we live like homeless, we wont be like those evil capitalist consumers!
- mjw2025, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4After the collapse of the economy where will you find a job to survive.
- DucoNihilum, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Digg messed up on me, double post.
- DucoNihilum, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1The anti-consumerists are against both. They're against what makes life comfortable. Sure, we don't NEED TV, but it's nice to have one.... OH WAIT, THAT'S EVIL CONSUMERISM!
- FriedTurkey, on 10/12/2007, -6/+6I am as liberal as they come. However the anti-consumerism crowd has me mystified. Aren't there bigger issues out there than people buying too much crap? If crap makes people happy go for it. I think we should be concerned for the environment and should look for ways to prevent waste but the fact that people want to buy crap isn't the problem.
One of the problems is that when people buy crap it is packaged in this ridiculous amount of crap that the buyer really doesn't care about. When I buy iPhone I really don't need the box and all the packaging. Just gimme the damn phone.
Another problem is the recycling system is terrible in America. Instead of trying to prevent people from buying stuff (good luck with that), lets just assume people are going to buy crap and try to make it better for the environment.
The whole bashing of green consumerist by anti-consumerists is more liberal self destruction which is why conservatives always seem to succeed. - MarieSkog, on 10/22/2007, -0/+0Why consumerism is wasteful= "Currently it takes around 20 tonnes of raw material to inputs to produce to produce one tonne of consumption, of the latter 970 kgs of it is waste within 12 months - in terms of products it displaces." http://www.conservatives.com/tile.do?def=news.stor ... 254. And why Americans should cut down on consumerism= 10 "The quantity of goods and services that Americans consumed last year in excess of what we produced was close to the entire annual output of Brazil. “Brazil is the tenth largest economy on the planet.” http://www.harvardmagazine.com/2007/07/debtor-nati ...
- bryanedds, on 10/13/2007, -1/+1Environmentalism as a Trojan Horse for socialism?
Who woulda thunk it??? - arpad, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3And people who reply with this sort of high-handed arrogance desperately need to believe that there are people who they're sure are lower then dirt. Otherwise, who would they have to be better then?
I did read the article and Sir John Houghton is obviously as comfortable as you telling people how to live their lives on scant evidence but unexamined certainty.
I'd suggest that leading by example would be a more honest display of your certainties but that would require relinquishing your assumptions of superiority. Obviously too high a price. - KingMoses, on 10/12/2007, -6/+6Great idea; let's all withdraw from the evil consumer culture so that all those bloodsucking producers who rely on us for a living will be out of a job and the whole world's ecosystem can be as pristine as Central American slums.
- zengonzo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I like to buy stuff. I can't speak for everyone that calls themselves anti-consumerist, but if you consider consumerism as an ideology, then it certainly is a negative thing.
You can buy things and consume without being a proponent of consumerism. - Sigma0, on 10/14/2007, -2/+1"Aren't there bigger issues out there than people buying too much crap?"
Umm...such as? The consumerist culture is the sole reason we're now living on a dying ***** planet. The entire developed world from the industrial revolution onwards has been built around oil. Everything from fertilisers growing the food we eat to the plastics making the cd's we buy. It doesn't matter how much technology advances, there will come a point when the global supply of oil is less than the previous day, then the previous year and continuing on a downward slope of the bell shape curve of extraction.
I'm not lobbying for an anti-consumerist culture. As far as I'm concered the problem will sort itself out in time (we'll be past peak oil production within 5 years) and unless some magic renewable energy source appears from nowhere our entire culture of conspicous consumption falls like a pack of cards. It's just a shame more people didn't wake up to the problem before and work towards a truly sustainable solution. - bungoman, on 10/12/2007, -11/+9Buried cause I don't need ***** to tell me how much I supposedly need to consume. I will buy whatever I want, whenever I want, and you can ***** right off if you think I'm doing something wrong.
- ivanov, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5People who respond with this kind of petulance *are* lower than dirt. Try reading the article first, BigManOC.
- DucoNihilum, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2Spoken like a true European, better than all of us and socialist.
- nick111, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Possibly you might want to think about things a bit more at some point.
One of the greenest things you can do is become a vegetarian - if you eat lower down the food chain, you use about 1/10th the land that a carnivore/omnivore does - from about 10 acres to about 1.
You'll also be less prone to obesity and a whole demonology of ills associated with fat-consumption, and the fact that toxins tend to acumulate up the food chain. The fact that you actually stand for something and have the willpower and commitment to carry it through will make you more attractive to women.
A powerful side effect of becoming a vegetarian, is that you tend to create other vegetarians... the fact that you're actually doing something positive is powerful communication. Sitting behind a computer screen being cynical doesn't really do anything except give you a whining voice inside your head which you get to carry around withy you all day.
Hypocracy is mis-applied when it comes deriding the degree to which people act on green issues... it would be very very difficult to be 100% green - and if you were, it would be very bad communication because you have to sacrifice so much to achieve it. 100% is counter-productive. 50% provides an example that other people can follow so you wind up achieving far more than your hermit-like 100%.
Telling people what to do is a waste of time though. You need to lead by example - cranium, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1Consumerism really gets under the skin of the elitists of the world because it strips them of their power.
Speaking of petulance: Bite me, you commie *****. - RGWX, on 10/15/2007, -9/+5Another wealthy, Western liberal elitist ready to deny the rest of the world the lifestyle he enjoys. Bravo.
- cranium, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1I don't think you meant it as a compliment, but us true americans will take it that way anyway. We can quite easily overlook your ignorance.
- BigManOnCampus, on 10/25/2007, -15/+8That's fine... dislike the throw-away culture, preach the value of durable good vs disposable. That's all fine.
Just don't act like other people are lower than dirt if they don't agree with you.
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