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- nox327, on 10/12/2007, -1/+31Yeah, our media is kinda biased and rating driven blackjack75.
For the last 2 days, they (CNN, NBC, FOX, CBS and others) have been talking about a child that has been killed years ago. I feel bad for her family and it is a tragedy, but come on, how many more time do I have to hear that story. Thousands of people are dieing in Iraq and Palestine and other conflicts and nobody is talking about that.
I hate our Media,
Thank god for Internet, otherwise I would be brainwashed like some Americans are, and believe everything the govt and media are telling them. - elastikos, on 10/12/2007, -1/+29That's disgusting, why hasn't this been reported in the media....more than what it has so far?
- blackjack75, on 10/12/2007, -2/+26Let me guess.... are you like.. in the US?
I've seen that reported more than once. But then again I am in Switzerland a terrorism-supporting state. - nox327, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24The cleanup bill should be presented to Israel. They knew this was going to happen if they bombed the site. Where is Greenpeace and other tree huggers now, why are they not speaking out about this disaster and condemning it.
- andreas1999, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19Not only the clean up, Israel better pick up the bill for all the damage they caused. But of course they won't and instead we'll pay for it..
- pairanoyd, on 11/06/2007, -1/+17What *****. There was no legitimate reason to do what they did.
Israel caused this oil spill on purpose, to spank Lebanon.
They did it to cause them damage to their coast, to deprive them of tourism income, to deprive them of food. And to top it off, Israel bombed ALL the fishing boats tied up along the coast. Boats that were tied up at dock and doing nothing. Hundreds of fishing boats.
How will Lebanon feed itself now? What happened was intentional and criminal. It should be added to the list of war crimes Israel has committed.
Will they be spanked for it? No, not in the least. GW $hrub and FUX News (the Israel/neocon chearleading channel) make sure that everyone knows that Israel is the victim 100% of the time and that everyone else is the evil aggressor. Fair and balanced my ass.
Want to see the other side of the story? Watch CNN and FUX news then flip over for a few days and watch Free Speech TV and Worldlink TV then get back with us. Get both sides, not just the scripted talking head *****. - blackjack75, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17As far as I know, it wasn't hezbollah who caused that particular event.
- tlmac59, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15Between July 13 and 15, 2006, damage to the Jiyyeh Power Station released thousands of tons of oil along the coast of Lebanon. According to BBC news, early estimates indicated that the oil spill could rival the Exxon Valdez accident in 1989. Covering roughly 120 kilometers (75 miles), the spill was expected to affect fishing and tourism industries, as well as local wildlife.
- rbowes, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16Israel did plenty more damage, and should pay more, but they should both pay. What a ridiculous war.
- anareric, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Yet another reason the entire thing was counter productive. Both side claimed victory. Both sides are losers.
- theoallardyce, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14This isnt just an attack on Hezbollah anymore. Israel has fired on not only Lebanese civilians but British, American and Canadian citizens living in Lebanon, and citizens from a whole load of other countries. Israel has essentially chased its allied citizens out of Lebanon under an aggressive barrage of fire while the governments of these countries hastily rush ships to literally save their citizens from Israel.
They have created an environmental disaster that not only affects Lebanese waters but the Mediterranean sea as a whole! This is a mess right on the door-step of Italy, Greece, France, half of Europe. This is a mess that will take months and millions of dollars to clean up and you can guess whos paying for it, not Israel thats for sure.
Israel has physically threatened the United Nations and has turned a simple kidnapping of soldiers into a full blown one month intensive bombing campaign. They have literally ripped up an entire country destroying half its infrastructure simply to prevent the movement of two soldier hostages.
Israel has scared millions of people *****-less and forced them to live in the dark with little food, water and medical care for a month. What this has resulted in is an extremely angrily motivated population who are now absolutely united in their hatred for a country and have little law and order to hold them back. This situation is going to double their support for Hezbollah meaning they will now be even more prepared to back this group and support it both physically and politically.
Hezbollah being a group that cares very little about protecting the Lebanese people as they have clearly demonstrated by making no effort to shoot down IAF aircraft entering Lebanese airspace - now it doesn't even matter to the Lebanese people that Hezbollah targets civilians, its very very difficult to give a ***** about that kind of thing when you've spent the last month dragging dead bodies out of rubble while living off international aid packages.
Similarly it is very difficult to give a ***** about a load of people in Lebanon who let Hezbollah launch rockets at Israel while hiding in their homes, as these rockets then plow into Israeli streets unleashing ball-bearings to shred people. Hey kids, guess what the ***** this all leads to? You guessed it you ***** *****:
CYCLE OF MOTHER ***** ***** ***** VIOLENCE
Israel, Lebanon and Palestine are doomed to rip the ***** out of each other for the rest of their ***** lives until one or more of them runs out of able-bodied people who still have enough arms and legs to fight. That entire section of planet is going to ***** itself over and over again with a ***** 50 foot but plug until its anus rips apart.
Does anyone seriously not think its time for us to get the ***** out of there and let them *****-slap each other without our involvement? - elastikos, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13@blackjack
Australia actually, but we're getting closer to becoming the 51st state of America everyday. - elastikos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12And any surrounding countries coastlines plus the environment in general.
- iFelix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Another picture of the slick form the BBC website
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/06/sci_nat_enl_1154951758/html/1.stm - AhmedOmran, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Make that in proportion, because Israel did truckloads of more damage than Hezbollah did.
- ChileanGoD, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12*****... Lebanon has oil now... watchout for the US invasion.
- Swampthing, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8We'll hear about it soon enough in the States, however, not presented as a disaster of epic proportions, yet instead as an excuse for gas prices to be hiked again...
- anj747, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9As always, Israel will get away with murder. They flout countless UN resolutions when it suits them, but hide behind them when justifying their atrocities. Mind you, I'm not forgetting what other parties in the region have done - but the scale of Israel's crimes beggers belief. I am also ashamed that Tony BLiar has again gone against the wishes of the British public, and backed the USA in not calling for an immediate ceasefire. Our government needs to listen to us more, and to a right-wing pretzel munching cowboy less.
- kozkos, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7@nox327: Here they are: http://www.greenpeace.org/international/news/we-have-a-message-for-peace/oil-slick
"While our immediate concern and sympathy lies with the injured, the displaced and the families of the victims of this conflict, long term environmental damage is an inevitable consequence of war.
Greenpeace is calling for an immediate cease fire and an end to the violence and environmental destruction. We also call for efforts to establish long lasting regional stability and peace. " - jaikar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Am sure Israelis, children of God, have done this in good faith and for a good reason. Even if not. Israel has the right to defend itself against children-to-be-terrorists and women-will-bear-terrorists. This is the wrath of God, behold for what's coming is worst against any creature who stands against the Will of God and His chosen people.
If not, then it was a mistake. An investigation will start soon.
I hope you get the sarcasm. Actually, more like the bitter truth the region is living. - braingilbreath, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6I think the internet can brainwash you just as easily.
- Krispy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2006/07/29/knBEACH_wideweb__470x305,0.jpg .
http://www.wral.com/2006/0728/9594662.jpg
http://media.monstersandcritics.com/galleries/382851/headline_dpa_00789461.jpg
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/060801/060801_oilSpill_hmed_1p.hmedium.jpg - becominglumberg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4nox327-
This is one of the better media comments I have heard in a while. Most people accuse the media of being driven by the left or the right in this country. It is not. It is driven by those that watch TV who want to watch drama on their news. Although it is unfortunate, one kid dying years ago is not news. A gigantic oil spill is, but in this country it does not get ratings. Maybe the reporters in other countries are more willing to report a less appealing story. - beelz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/Images/lebanon_ast_2006220_lrg.jpg
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@synsynackack -- Oh my god - another loon who thinks the Middle East crisis is 4 weeks old - come on man get a memory!!! Do the words "illegal occupation" mean anything to you? If Germany occupied areas of texas would you think it wrong for texans to kidnap a couple of german soldiers???????
- zerblat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_power_plant
- ISIfunded911, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6http://www.newstatesman.com/200608140026
Green thinking: How Israel lays waste in the eco-war
Mark Lynas
Monday 14th August 2006
It is a measure of the scale of Israel's atrocities against the Lebanese that the worst environmental disaster in Lebanon's history has gone largely unreported in the midst of all the death and destruction. "Chances are our whole marine ecosystem facing the Lebanese shoreline is already dead," laments the country's environment minister, Yacub Sarraf. "What is at stake is all marine life in the eastern Mediterranean."
More than 15,000 tonnes of fuel oil has leaked from Lebanon's Jiyye power plant since it was attacked by Israeli warplanes on 13 July. As if deliberately to hamper any attempts to staunch the flow of oil, Israel then bombed the power plant again two days later, preventing emergency workers from gaining access to the site. An indication of the scale of the disaster comes from satellite photos showing a 3,000-square-kilometre slick along two-thirds of Lebanon's coastline. The oil has now begun to wash up in Syria.
Worst affected among the region's wildlife will be green turtles, an endangered species whose young begin to hatch on Lebanese beaches in late July. As the baby turtles scramble towards the sea, they will run straight into the oil and die. Environmental groups say they are prevented from surveying the damage or rescuing the turtles because of continued Israeli fire.
None of this will come as a surprise to the Palestinians, who have suffered the environmental consequences of Israel's scorched-earth policies for decades. The water supply to nearly a million Gazans was cut off by bombing last month. Untreated sewage lies in pools on the beach, thanks to Israeli shelling of the Gaza City waste-water treatment plant in 2002. Landfill sites are overflowing and on fire, and two pilot composting plants - constructed with outside help as an alternative to landfill - lie idle, having also been damaged by Israeli bullets.
Israel will no doubt deny all of this or construe it as "accidental" (and I will be accused of anti-Semitism for daring to write it). No such claim can be made for the 50,000 tonnes of hazardous waste that the UN Environment Programme discovered in 2003, buried by Israel on Gaza's beach. Nor can the impact of West Bank settlements be so easily dismissed: untreated sewage pours down from their army-protected hilltop fortresses, contaminating what remains of Palestinian agricultural land in the valleys. Aluminium and electronics factories avoid domestic Israeli pollution controls by relocating to the occupied territories, where hazardous waste is simply dumped on Palestinian land.
In areas where Israel's segregation wall has been completed, whole communities are cut off from their farmlands and water supplies. Construction of the barrier, known to its Palestinian victims as the "apartheid wall", continues apace with US support, despite a ruling by the International Court of Justice in The Hague declaring it illegal and immoral. As I write, Israeli soldiers have stopped Palestinians from venturing on to their own land near Jenin, so that troops can begin the uprooting of hundreds of olive trees in advance of the wall.
In March last year, according to the Israeli peace campaigner Ethan Ganor, shepherds from Palestinian villages near Hebron found their livestock killed by poison pellets scattered in their fields by Jewish settlers. This might be dismissed as the action of a few fanatics, but it is consistent with reports about settlers targeting Palestinian resources. In 2003, the Guardian journalist Chris McGreal reported how settlers had hacked down Palestinian olive trees in a night attack. More than 250 trees, some dating from Roman times, were damaged or destroyed.
Violence against the land and its inhabitants has become part of the same matrix of aggression. Perhaps most revealing was Israel's destruction of a solar power project in Gaza in an air strike on 28 June. That environmentally friendly technology could deliver a better future for Palestinians is not part of Tel Aviv's plan. As far as Israel is concerned, the Palestinians have no future - except as a dispossessed underclass, deprived of land and identity, segregated by a four-metre-high wall into a network of South African-style bantustans. This is not a future any people can or should accept, not in South Africa, nor in Palestine. And so, the war goes on. - pairanoyd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Exactly.. So much for tourism.. Lebanon had actually become a trendy tourist spot for their beautiful coast and clean beaches. It WAS a very nice place, or so many tourists thought until now.
Between the utter oblivion of the cities and the ruining of the entire coast and the destruction of their fishing fleet, their country is set back 100 years at least. It will take decades to recover from these criminal acts committed against them. I'm not saying they are without fault but their "punishment" was far far worse than what the offense called for.
There will never be peace in the middle east. The entire planet hates Israel and hates the US for their blind loyalty and support of Israel.
If we really want to end the war on terror, we need to cut all ties with Israel and quit pissing off the Muslims. Israel contributes nothing at all to the world but is the agitator behind ALL the middle east conflicts. Just ask Mel. On the other hand, the Arabs, who number over a billion, have all the oil that we need. Why not make nice with them and get lower prices and a stop to the terror? If GW $hrub would quit jetting us around the world to blow up Muslims everytime Israel says "boo" maybe they would back off.
Call a cease fire already for gods sake. 30-40-50 years ago we didn't have this sort of problem, the entire world didn't hate us. Americans could travel anywhere and be pretty safe.
Now we can't even be safe at home, forget about travel. My daughter, grandson and son-in-law live in London and I'm in constant fear of what could happen to them.
WWII was won by sheer numbers. The Russians poured into Germany faster than the Germans could reload their weapons. There were more Russian soldiers in Germany than there were bullets in Germany.
And there are far more Muslims in the world than there are US soldiers. There aren't enough bullets and bombs to kill them all. They'll just keep coming and coming until we've been eradicated. Let's just quit pissing them off and killing them and make nice for once. We all stand to benefit from a peaceful world. And we all stand to lose from a war torn world. - repins, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3So this is "fuel oil" also know as diesel not crude oil? Tthe vids i have seen are all of a what looks like black crude oil covering the beaches.
- zerblat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+41. Arguing over "who started it" is childish when you're in a school-yard fight. When you're discussing an international conflict it's just unbelievably ridiculous.
2. Maybe I'm mistaken, but I seem to recall that there was some sort of conflict in that part of the world even before a couple of Israeli soldiers were captured. Or were they all living in perfect peace and harmony two months ago? - becominglumberg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2elastikos-
I would trade you guys for Arkansas any day of the week...at least you guys believe in science, and kangaroos are pretty cool (at least they are over here... i hear you guys have a bit of a problem with them over there.) - SAGuy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@Sammyjones Hezbollah sees itself as that very lion!!
How did that turn out for them? - niczar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2How did it turn out for them? PR-wise, their popularity has increased dramatically. For instance Lebanese christians have a better opinion of them nowadays, while they used to hate them.
WTG Israël! - mundek23, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7Both Israel and Hezbollah should be made to pay for the clean up operation.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@SAguy
It didn't turn out very well for many Lebanese but its turned out a whole lot worse for every single Israeli - the whole world hates them except the psychotic neo-cons - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@repins - no but the Native Americans did kidnap plenty of cowboys before 50 years ago - but they are not considered terrorists by any sane people today.
- otheruser, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Do you seriously believe this war is about those two soldiers?
If so, please, wake-up. This is about Hezbollah vs. Israel. It just so happens that Israel chose to use excessive and disproportionate force. And in the process, they've destroyed an entire nation and killed scores of innocent civilians.
Israel seriously needs to learn to control it's temper. - wvdavis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2War sux!!!
- LiquidLithium, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1thats alot of oil
- synsynackack, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2@otheruser
On the other hand, Lebanon needs to control their radical militant population.
And how does one use "excessive and disproportionate force" against someone who wants your entire country and people eliminated? Stop believing the Hezbollah propaganda and look at what they're indoctrinating their children and people with. Hatred is what they're all about. Hatred for everyone but themselves. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5A massive environmental disaster.
Another gift from the Nation of Israel to the rest of the world.
When will we get tired of their ***** and feed them to the ***** lions? - Tabris, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Maybe it was just to lube some equipment up.
- synsynackack, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@sammyjones
Sorry, I'm not a "loon". But you've just established your intelligence level in public.
1) How far back in history does one go to determine rightful ownership?
2) My comment was made in the context of this article. The oil spill wouldn't have happened had Hezbollah not provoked this situation. You can't deny that.
Don't try to take my comments out of context, and learn how to discuss a topic in an intelligent fashion. - right75, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0So, you wouldn't fight for what you believe?
- JeepMcMuddy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0MMMMMM Dugg for Lesbian Oil Slicks......
- repins, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1I do not recall hearing about any Native American Tribe kidnapping U.S. citizens in the last fifty years or so, and we are occupying their land.
- repins, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2Since when do Power Stations burn Oil? Natural Gas yep, Coal check, Diesel/gasoline perhaps ....But Oil?
- DMark, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1I actually agree with you on one point. The Arab world has been trying to destroy Israel since the UN created it 50 years ago. Every time the UN or US or anyone else for that matter get a cease fire in place, it is only a matter of time before another bus/mall/club blows up and Israel retaliates for it.
All cease fires do is allow both sides to rebuild and rearm and perpetuates the violence. The solution is for everyone to pull their citizens out of Israel and Lebanon and take a hands off approach. Eventually one side will win and it will be over. - Araya213, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1Perhapse I'm just blind, but I don't see anything resembling oil in that photo. Maybe someone
Here is another picture of an oil spill.
http://hosting.soonet.ca/eliris/remotesensing/LectureImages/radarfrance.gif
Like I said, I might just be blind, or the oil companies might just be blowing smoke up our asses. - synsynackack, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1Everyone is forgetting the fact that this wouldn't have happened if Hezbollah hadn't started the current conflict.
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