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- meruru, on 11/03/2007, -4/+41They have a point, but a study by the American Public Transportation Association calling for more public transportation seems like a conflict of interest
- slashbot, on 11/03/2007, -7/+39I'm all for public transit. Make it convenient, and I will use.
- Richandler, on 11/03/2007, -6/+21We can't even get along in the digg comment systems do you really want use mixed together on mass transit?
- wachter1, on 11/02/2007, -2/+16Public transportation does not work well without high density housing. High density housing goes against the American grain of wanting a huge mansion with a lot of empty rooms. The desire for all those big houses with a yard and a wide street caused America to spread out. Too much was invested in a sprawling transportation infrastructure. In most places people are dependent on automobiles.
Public transportation is a great idea in theory, but in most places in the US it is simply unrealistic. Everything is so spread out that public transportation is too irregular and too unreliable. A bus every hour? What happens if you miss the bus? - Ninh, on 11/02/2007, -9/+22World saved from warming, mankind wiped out by killer flu spread in a bus. News at 11.
- vkuuumar, on 11/02/2007, -0/+11Not enough to know how to spell Heroes.
- scabbers, on 11/03/2007, -2/+12The only way to get everyone using public transport whenever possible is to make car ownership incredibly expensive... that plan seems to be going well these days.
- rugby4ward, on 11/02/2007, -0/+10I've been riding the bus every day for 4 years now. I put a pencil to it the other day and determined I've saved about $28,000 in car payments, gas, maintenence, and insurance. I used to drive a Chey Tahoe so this is probably higher than most peoples figure would be, but nonetheless a significant savings. Living in a small city the busses are clean and filled with white collar people. Not what you'd get in say...Philadelphia.
- Daiken, on 11/03/2007, -3/+13All I ask for is a Portal gun and I'll give up my car.
- Asianwaste, on 11/02/2007, -2/+11The excellence in Japan's train system is beyond the capacity of human vocabulary.
- Chakat, on 11/03/2007, -1/+9I live in the city and just want you to realize there are consequences for your unsustainable lifestyle. Increasing the costs of living in the country means that I no longer have to subsidize your ass.
- matty80211, on 11/02/2007, -0/+8wait wait wait.... suburbans are productive? People that spend up to 5 hours commuting every day are productive? I don't think so. If you cant afford the picket fence 20 minutes from work, you shouln't have it. Civilization did not become what it was from suburbia. It was the cities and the farms. Suburbia is this horrible bi-product of the Post World War II era (which also brought us the horrors called the baby boomers) where people believe they are entitled to an unsustainable standard of living. I pride myself that I dont drive, never have, and never had the reason to. Everything I need is no more than a 5 minute walk. For those heavier things, delivery service is sweet when you live in a walk up.
The only problem with everyone using cars would be an economic fall out from the automotive industry. The plus side would be your weak US dollar could regain its strength on the world stage if you didn't rely so heavily on oil. Want to stay a super power? Take the bus. - digudown, on 11/02/2007, -1/+9You mean whole world was traveling in a single bus?
- DurtyJ, on 11/02/2007, -2/+9Know what else would save the world? World peace. Yet, neither of these two things are realistic.
- zonagirl, on 11/03/2007, -1/+8Let's see. Car insurance is over $1000. Car repairs are at least a few hundred bucks a year. Registration is usually at least $100.
You think $700 for an ENTIRE year is expensive?! - ShastaMcNasty, on 11/03/2007, -9/+15Not all public transport is created equal. If every city in the U.S. had a subway system that could mount as much awesomeness as the on in NYC, there'd be fewer naysayers on this thread. Sucks to be living in the flyover zone I guess.
- merm, on 11/03/2007, -0/+6Just a thought - this may be less a "public transportation" issue in general and more a "you live in a ***** neighborhood" issue.
- ChiTownHero, on 11/02/2007, -1/+7Living in Chicago, I know the value of public transit. No one in or around Chicago is unaffected by the CTA, But if public transit is the future, we better start funding it now. the CTA is about to raise rates from $2 a ride to $3 this weekend if they do not find a few million bucks under a mattress somewhere. And let me tell you $6 a day in public transit fairs is going to make a lot fewer people want to ride. As it is, the CTA has stated that by increasing the fairs they are expecting to lose 100k travelers. So much for saving the planet when people are too busy saving for retirement.
- ankankr, on 11/02/2007, -2/+8Public transportation is not only good for the environment, it could also be the most viable solution for America's energy needs. If more people get off the car and take the subway or the bus, per capita consumption of energy will be reduced drastically. With oil prices shooting through the roof and value of dollar eroding so fast, the gas bills are only going to go up. The consumer is already feeling the pinch and she is willing to take the bus or the train. The only problem is, the train is not there so she hardly has an option.
At this point, public transportation in the US sucks big time in most of the cities. If America gets the good sense of investing in public transport, it will reap the rewards in the long run. - BlackAle, on 11/02/2007, -0/+6After reading your post, I'd like to point out to you that people outside of the US use the internet and hence read digg, though I guess you're too stupid to realise that. Something I gathered anyways from reading your post.
- Asianwaste, on 11/02/2007, -0/+6Japan has one of the most excellent train systems in the world. It's always on time, cheap, convenient, easy to use, clean, and above all resourceful. In Japan, you are no more than a 20 minute walk away from a train station. I've seen 5 year olds use the train by themselves (as for where their parents are, don't ask me, but my point still stands). They pride themselves on efficiency so much that if the train is late more than 5 minutes everyone on the train gets a refund.
- BinaryFragger, on 11/03/2007, -0/+6I pay $73 a month, which adds up to $876 a year. Still a lot cheaper than owning a car, though (a parking pass here can easily cost almost $100 a month).
- mecole21, on 11/03/2007, -0/+6Wish there was a subway here.... I wouldnt have to clean the snow in my car... wouldnt have to worried about a retard hitting me... I could just pay my few bucks and I will get to where I need to go....
- Chakat, on 11/02/2007, -0/+5As opposed to Government public roads, where you get extra smog and someone blows exhaust in your face, right?
- Monkeywithacold, on 11/02/2007, -2/+7I think its just you who likes to segregate yourself.
Not everyone on the planet is scared of other people, because they dress different, or listen to different music. I ride the bus every day, it doesn't smell as good as my car, but its way better than paying a ton of money in gas, or parking.
"but that is because they choose to live there and the people on this planet who like to live like ants"
As opposed to what? Living in the suburbs where every house looks exactly the same with your soccer mom parents and your huge SUV you use to get groceries? Not everyone wants the same lifestyle as you. - ChiRolla, on 11/03/2007, -1/+6I take 4-6 trains a day to school. Mass public transit is amazing. Too bad the CTA (Chicago Trans. Auth.) spends their money like ***** morons and they are cutting routes and raising prices this weekend. And then they have the nerve to say that it's the state's fault that they don't have enough funding. But I digress. Everyone should be taking mass transit or riding a bike!
- Scheissen, on 11/02/2007, -0/+5I'm not going to sleep on public transit.
- Chakat, on 11/02/2007, -0/+5It's called a subway system. Underground, where it's not as hot. Even LA has one.
- tmbrwolf19, on 11/02/2007, -0/+5Your argument is basically promoting re-segregation of society. While your opinion may be that people like to segregate themselves, the opposite is true. Humans are social creature and need a sense of community and interaction. There is a reason we don't home school our children, but send them to public schools. The entire basis of society is that we communicate with people of all levels. When you isolate yourself (such as in suburbia) you see things such as mental illness, suicide, and stress levels rise. It took a while for this realization to happen, which is why cities don't want suburbs anymore. Unfortunately, banks know that people will buy into suburbia regardless and don't like the 'risk' involved with better planned communities, so developers are stuck building inefficiently, poorly designed suburbs. Mass transit works amazingly well. The European model works and in many places more people don't own cars then those who do. While yes, North America is admittedly different, but it is simply a matter of scale. The biggest obstacles to connecting North America is money and state of mind.
- MonGuSE1, on 11/02/2007, -0/+5So basically you want to turn the mass transit train system into a system that mirrors the mass transit air system? Yeah that is working so well as you yourself point out. The 'rich' view mass transportation as beneath them and their right to own a car. They also want room to build their McMansions which requires them to move to areas outside the reach of most public transportation. In essence the 'rich' CHOOSE to not avail themselves of areas with good mass transportation. In fact the perfect point is that in Atlanta where they have been trying for DECADES to expand the light rail system has always been voted down in affluent burbs because they are afraid that the 'minorities' might come to their community. So they are using the transit system as a way of segregating themselves as much as possible from the people that find socially unappealing. Its their choice. I've lived in NYC and Chicago and I never felt that I had to socialize with people whom I didn't want to, that is just your elitist self's problem.
In addition the combination of mass transit with the flex car system is an ingenious solution which is really making mass transit even more appealing. What we NEED to do is realize that 99.9% of the energy and money involved in personal automobiles is used to move just the mass of the car. That is so wasteful it is ridiculous and it is easy to see that lessening that is necessary to offset global warming. Not only that all those paved over areas would help having trees and grass. If people would realize that it costs money to build and maintain those roads and that the cost per mile is rivaling that of mass transportation now. Then we will really see a change. - schnikies79, on 11/02/2007, -3/+7No, the "flyover" zone is quite nice and I have no intention of ever moving to a city.
- leftyslament, on 11/02/2007, -1/+5Have you ever taken public transit outside of the U.S.? Public transportation is crappy in the U.S. because the majority of American cities are designed around cars. Most people drive because it is the only feasible option for getting around. The only people who don't drive are those that can't, usually because they don't have the money. Therefore the public transit is pretty poorly funded because, lets face it, poor people don't have the funds to lobby in order to raise the quality. In denser cities like those in Europe, rich and poor take public transit alike, and the quality is much better. The problem is not a matter of privatization, but of allocation of funding.
- LetsGoHokies, on 11/02/2007, -5/+9Wow. Do you just hate the environment or do you think that it will make you look like a pussy if you do care about it?
- leftyslament, on 11/02/2007, -4/+8Ah yes, "global jihadism," the religion of the Right. Doomsday scenario? Check. Lack of facts? Check. Blind belief to the point of becoming apoplectic at the suggestion that it might not be real? Check.
You can go back to praying to your hummers now.
See, I can be a troll too! The Right really needs to realize how amazingly hypocritical it is to accuse people who show concern for the environment as being fearmongers. - hitmonval, on 11/03/2007, -1/+5I hope public transport is the future. For our environment's sake and for my wallet's sake.
- sineyopitty, on 11/02/2007, -0/+4Well, to be fair, humans are pretty dumb to live in Phoenix. Digg me down if you want, but I don't think Phoenix's population growth is sustainable. Water has to come in from far away, as does food and everything else.
- Chakat, on 11/02/2007, -0/+3We had a private transportation system in most parts of the country in the beginning of the century. The problem was that socialized streetbuilding meant that the automobile seemed more economically viable, because a lot of the costs were hidden. You start charging people what it actually costs for their habits and they'll change.
- qwertydvorak, on 11/02/2007, -1/+4that doesn't get everyone using public transport. just makes for a system of haves and have-nots. it is no different than the idea of taxing people who drive into the city. makes nice empty roads for people who have money. lets get those commoners off the street so we won't have to sit in traffic.
- sparkysko, on 11/02/2007, -0/+3and get rid of the FAA so we can all have flying cars.
- EnergyEinstein, on 11/03/2007, -0/+3Start to have some good experiences on public transportation, plan some.. like have a friend ride with you that you can chat about stuff you enjoy together. Get some new good experiences on the bus/subway..
- eleventh, on 11/02/2007, -2/+5Right, which is why we need to stop subsiding the car.
- inactive, on 11/02/2007, -0/+3Someone please invent a stargate.
- res8qr6m, on 11/02/2007, -0/+3Singapore seems to be pretty successful at that.
- julianrod, on 11/03/2007, -0/+3Get an MP3 player (I won't say the brand). Or read a book/magazine. I always feel so superior when riding the bus, all the people staring at my reading material. (It's not Penthouse, BTW)
- BlackJackJester, on 11/02/2007, -3/+6The reason I don't do public transportation? I work 5 miles from my house, it takes 10 minutes to drive, and would take over an hour to get there by public transit. I can bike there faster (about 30-40 minutes).
- Asianwaste, on 11/02/2007, -0/+3As cool as flying cars are, I think we should fix all of the jackasses who make the earthbound cars a death trap. Flying cars today will just be a massacre.
- MonGuSE1, on 11/03/2007, -1/+4Getting along is not a requirement to shut up, sit down and ride to your destination and get off. If you can't control yourself for 20mins then you have more issues than most people and are part of the problem.
- 3tcp, on 11/02/2007, -0/+3One of the business cities where they pimp everything out to impress westerners and kick all the poor people out. Beijing will be the ***** for the olympics but you can bet your ass that millions of people got screwed in order to get it that way.
- monkeyrun, on 11/02/2007, -0/+3*****.... US the only developed nation on earth where people still don't think global warming is a fact.
- Amazetbm, on 11/02/2007, -0/+2"The more complex you make the plumbing, the easier it is to clog up the drain"
--Montgomery Scott -
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