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- Dagojay, on 10/12/2007, -5/+51awesome
now I can get a Mr. Fusion to power my Flux Capacitor so I can travel back to the year 1955 - doctechnical, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23If I'm going to have toxic heavy metals anywhere. I can't think of a better place than inside glass.
- Decimator, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18It isn't clean energy: "Some scientists caution however that the glass would likely contain toxic heavy metals."
However, it's obviously better than dumping the mercury/lead/whatever else straight into the air, and it makes electricity too! Good stuff. - justintsmith, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Great Scott!
- doctechnical, on 10/12/2007, -8/+21I get plasma gassification when I drink too much Guiness with my burritos.
- ikillpeoplexx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12http://digg.com/environment/The_Prophet_of_Garbage
a REAL story on this from popular science magazine. - Mousse, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13You're powered by the very food you process, are you a perpetual motion device?
It doesn't violate the laws of thermodynamics if the resulting substrate is at a lower energy state. - zephc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10This is heavy...
- doctechnical, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Incinerating trash to provide power and heat is hardly novel - cities have been doing it for decades, at least. This is just a cleaner way of going about it.
- Joe_rigby, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10It does not operate at more than 100% efficiency because the garbage is used as fuel and is consumed.
- jesusismetal, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13Yeah "genoius", just like you.
- doctechnical, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8A plasma incinerator driving around our neighborhoods and interstates - what could possibly go wrong? ;)
- shrewduser, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10what is this "heavy" you keep talking about? is there a problem with the earths gravity in the future?
- unilogic, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Not at 100% percent efficiency, you are adding garbage as a fuel source. Its not like it a perpetual motion machine or anything. Same idea as a normal engine, add gas and it goes. Just this takes garbage outputs gas, then uses that gas a fuel source.
- TopherT, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7When you burn something you're not violating thermodynamics, you're using its energy. 1/3 of the energy created by the thing is used by it to keep the plasma arc going, the rest can be processed and sold as synthgas.
- nickerbocker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5There's toxic metals in the computer you used to type that post.
- realn0whereman, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8this isnt an engine -_-
- nickerbocker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Keep in mind that by the time you read about something in a magazine, the story is probably a couple months old.
- Fordi, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10"The whole 'it’s also powered by the very garbage that it processes' has to be false; it means it operates at more than 100% efficiency which is against the laws of thermodynamics."
Ah, no. You've got that wrong. It means it necessarily burns some portion of the fuel it converts, it: it's less than perfect efficiency. It's probably well below Carnot on that point.
"And the photo in the article with the 'scientist' dumping a trash can into it? Please. For this thing to be viable, it would have to have a conveyor belt with a constant stream of trash coming in, which means that, on whole, it would be much, much larger."
Huh? Dumping trash into a macerator to be processed isn't viable? Hell, you don't even know if it's a continuous flow system or a batch system. Could you please refrain from speaking if you've not even done basic flow physics? - SatoriMoment, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4what if you put it on wheels, like replacing the back end holding area of a garbage truck with this machine, and you can drive it around zapping garbage instead of transporting it. that would be cool.
- ThePortlander, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5This sounds just like the Mr.Fusion from BTTF2
- sathias, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2More testicles means more iron
- Barryke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2For this heinous crime, I sentence you to the dip!
No, no. not the dip!
..Eddie, tell him I didn't do it! - joeydoo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Didn't they get the flux capacitor working with Mr fusion in 1985?....
.... oh no............ my bad, I wasn't thinking 4th dimensionally. - jmcrane, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Because his logic is terribly wrong... The difference between 2002 and 2007 is not "oil running out"... It was running out then as it is now at roughly the same rate. I don't know the true reason, but this certainly isn't it.
- tablesandchairs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The deal has gone through; I am a St. Lucie County resident, and there is already construction underway...It's interesting to see them exposing this massive expanse of landfill that has been grown over for decades. I was always curious as to why they were doing that, until I read a similar article as this one posted in the Port St. Lucie News over the summer.
I'm glad the county is getting on the map for something as positive as this. Hopefully it's a safe process... - ne0shell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1assumption huh? It's pretty ***** obvious he ripped off the popsci article - he copied and pasted entire paragraphs and even grabbed one of the exact pics. It's very provable and very actionable too. Theres nothing wrong with writing up a summary of an article on another site but you have to post a link to the original and credit the author.
Oh and I'll click that link as soon as you're done blowing me. - Siraris, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1DUPE this was on here LAST WEEK people.
- kennyboy019, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This kind of thing gets me realy pumped up. In the city I grew up in there is no room for landfills, and people flip out when its brought up. Somthing like this would be perfect.
I imagine some day these could be small enough to have your own in you house.
Screw Mr. Fusion, its Mr. Plasma! - jkalow, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3you can turn your loved ones into pretty glass, and save some money on electricity!
- churry, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Thanks for linking to the article. Much more informative than this digg post. I still wish there was more information about the toxic metals though.
- beardedfish, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The popsci article says that, "a city can break even after 10 years, after that its pure profit." HOLY CRAP! Making money from garbage!
- ellisgl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Put some solar cells on the truck.. Whats left over at the end of the day is sold off to other companies.. Hmm...... Yes.. Hmm....
- wombatcombat74, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Why isn't this more advertised or applicable? There has to be some more downsides.
- ne0shell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1People re-posting articles from other sites and submitting dupes to get adsense $... ***** lame.
This guy outright plagerized the popsci article with no credit or link to the original article. Hell, he copied and pasted right out of popsci - loser. - ellisgl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@jkalow: http://www.lifegem.com makes them into a diamond... But I wonder if you did incincerate them with technology then took the glass and processed it like what Life Gem what would be created..
- buzneg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1this company does it too www.plasmaenvironmental.com
there's plenty of new and old techs that would make running cars on electrcity, more cost effective then oil. - megaloid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@somebitches2:
Do you have to use so many cuss words? - Carlothos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is actually a publicly traded company?! !? YAY!
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:StarTech_Environmental_Corp - doctechnical, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1As the article mentioned, "incinerator" is a bad word with most people, they'll immediately conjure up an image of some huge smoke-belching stinky behemoth, and the "Not in my back yard!" knee will reflexivly jerk.
Which will result in calls for massive investigations, regulation, litigation, overhead, beuraucracy, pocket-lining and fraud, with the end result that any efficiency that might have been gained will be eaten by rats and then some.
Hope that answers your question ;) - broomfighter, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2why was he dug down?
- ne0shell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1wow imagine that - an un-original insult from someone who supports plagiarism.
- Archimboldo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm not sure of your assumptions. It all depends on how much energy is in the trash itself, which I can't really guess with any confidence. The PM article has the following quote:
“We’ll generate 160 megawatts a day from the garbage,” Hillestad says, “but we’ll consume only 40 megawatts to run the plant."
It wouldn't be the first time that an entrepreneur has over-hyped his product.
Who knows until they try it. St. Lucie County, Florida, is in negotiations to erect a $425 million plasma gassification plant. If the deal goes through, we'll see. - CLEVELTECH, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1We have to do something about these landfills.
- postitnote, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Garbage in, garbage ou... oh wait.
- MinisterOrange, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I can't wait till they make these ready for home use in your plumbing/garbage disposal! Goodbye high electricity bill, now that's what I call recycling! - turn your poop into clean energy. Having a bigger family (more poop) would make up for the costs of having more people using energy in your house!
- Vulch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Lisa! In this house, we obey the laws of thermodynamics!
- TorontoJack, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Fantastic,,,,if we could shrink this machine to the size of an icebox,,, then we could fit it in a car and we have a garbage powered car,, with enough energy to power the hosehold too,,,what ya think,,,give it a decade or so and maybe it could go that way,, see ya in 2017,,,,
- raymore, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1This is pretty sweet. I kinda want one in my garage.
- keysersoze9, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Just think of the power we could generate with the garbage in Al Gores skull.
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