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- phreak79, on 06/30/2008, -1/+26Sad but not all together surprising. Hopefully the EPA will win this particular fight.
- AlwaysAwake, on 06/30/2008, -2/+12Yes, by all means, let us just keep "hoping" that the US Military Industrial Complex does not, like The Federal Reserve System of Banks, also owned by the same group of super-rich sociopaths of The One World Company, consider themselves above US laws. It is nothing less than astonishing how the American sheeple keep "hoping" George Bush, errand boy for the same group, will never use the full dictatorial powers already given him by his signed Executive Orders, and new laws by an equally corrupted Congress. "Hoping" that the 2008 elections will actually take place, bringing a new President. "Hoping" that the extermination camps, modeled after North Korea's, and already built by Halliburton across the nation, will never receive us, and our families for torture and death. "Hoping" that the OWC plan to starve billions of disobedient and superfluous "mouths" to death with their artificially created, but now very real food "shortage", will not appear in our kitchens. "Hoping" that the OWC will not "legally" steal all our personal assets and foreclosure on our property, with their planned collapse of the US Dollar and Economy. "Hoping" that the OWC plan to attack Iran, initiating World War III, killing millions more to satisfy their greed, will not touch us. We have about 30, maybe at most 60 days, to forget our petty superficial racial, ethnic, national, religious, and political differences, and non-violently, but assertively and directly confront the servants of the OWC, our elected "leaders" demanding a stop to this, or see all our relentless "hopes" permanently smashed, as we are murdered or enslaved.
- deviouster, on 06/30/2008, -0/+7EPA!!! EPAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
- MendotaLee, on 06/30/2008, -4/+10You'd think it would be safe to say the Defense Department is the biggest polluter in the world, not just the nation.
- GordonClass, on 06/30/2008, -4/+10Who's in the White House right now? Oh yea Bush go figure nothing is getting done.
- inactive, on 06/30/2008, -4/+9U.S. Military’s War on the Earth
http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/article ... - peterfnet, on 06/30/2008, -0/+4America, ***** yeah!!
- NJank, on 06/30/2008, -1/+5Also, it's not like this is an easy quick fix type of problem. 50-75 years ago, standard practice was to bury spent chemicals and ordinance (used and unused) in a big enough hole outside the test building. Not documented. Can't even stick a shovel in the ground at Aberdeen without a pile of paperwork and mine clearing equipment. I assume some similar conditions at these other places, in addition to more common problems (poorly kept oil heating storage tanks, etc.)
in their defense: "Pentagon officials say they are voluntarily cleaning up the three sites named in the EPA's "final orders"...But the EPA has been dissatisfied with the extent and progress of the Pentagon's voluntary efforts. Cleanup agreements drafted by the EPA for the 12 other sites contain "extensive provisions" that the Pentagon finds unacceptable, officials said. "" - audiooeric, on 06/30/2008, -0/+4I'm sure if Halliburton had an Environmental division, this would have been cleaned up years ago. The longer this cleanup gets delayed the larger the plumes will become which means more $$ to fix. In the end, it will be us, the taxpayers, who lose.
A private company would have been sued by the EPA, bankrupted, and then sold to a group of investors that would then receive LOADS of tax breaks to clean up the area. However, we can't really take the DoD's sites and give them to private investors. So, there really isn't an incentive for the DoD to really comply. The tax incentives that Superfund created don't apply and the EPA can't take the property away.
In the end, this is a billion dollar industry grounded in solid science. Heck, the Water Encyclopedia ( http://www.amazon.com/Water-Encyclopedia-Third-Hyd ... ) is almost 2000 pages now and continues to grow with every edition... This isn't a 'Global Warming' type of science that is disputed. Come on DoD, man up and do the right thing... - SOS84, on 06/30/2008, -0/+4I worked range control for several years at Fort Bragg and can tell you with absolute certainty that Bragg (and every other army post I have ever set foot on) should be a super fund site. It is bad enough that the military wastes more money than the rest of the government combined and raised by an order of magnitude, but that they continue to put our health and welfare at risk for no reason is inhumane.
- publiclurker, on 06/30/2008, -0/+4You manage to ask him to thank you for allowing him to do something that you then demand that he not do.
Let me guess. you joined the military because you were to pathetic to cut it in the real world and decided to feed at the public trough while using the flag as a cloak to cover the fact that you were, have been and always will be a worthless punk who has no more of an idea what it means to defend honor or country than a fish knows how to ride a bicycle.
It's third rate embarrassments like you who are causing most of the damage to this county, and not those outside parties who, along with anyone else who might be a little too dark, you get off on killing. So go crawl back down in your hole and finish rotting. The stench you spread over this country is too much of a disgrace for decent people to be expected to tolerate. - inactive, on 06/30/2008, -1/+5Let them go. The sooner we all die the sooner the military can declare war on itself.
- sodade, on 06/30/2008, -2/+5***** hilarious - sounds like you've been practicing for a promotion to drill sergeant.
Exactly the kind of response I expect from US military apologists. Boy, I sure do love that my taxes pay you a salary so you can fight wars for corporations. Too bad there hasn't been honor in the US military in 60 years. I earned my right to be an American by paying a ***** of taxes over the last 26 years (I've been earning a paycheck since I was 14). You did not give me any rights and you certainly have not been protecting them. Every brown person you kill for your corporate masters makes my family less safe.
Don't worry - I don't blame dumb grunts for being dumb. I know it is not your fault, but don't come crying to me when you don't get respect for being a hired thug. - inactive, on 06/30/2008, -1/+4@26thUSMC
Question: What would happen if the US closed all foreign bases, sealed off the border and worked to not only defend those borders from terrorist incursion (ex: dramatically increasing cargo inspection, etc.) but also helping to rebuild bad / crumbling infrastructure? And what if we did this on a scale that allowed us to keep the same budget outlay we have now? In other words, if we could be self-sufficient (and I believe we could) and also have super tight borders wouldn't that free up a lot of money and people to make the US even better than it is now? - AnthonyN, on 06/30/2008, -0/+3"America is pretty much tops when it comes to air, land, sea quality."
That's... really not true, man. Not when taken as a whole, anyway.
"china, russia, india, LA, etc should be flooded with millions and millions of dead cancer corpses."
Lung cancer, asthma, heart disease and other health problems are all endemic to those regions and have been linked to the poor air quality.
"the EPA will be the destruction of America, not terrorists, not nothing.. the EPA over the last 30 years has tried to bankrupt America."
Where are you getting this hysterical nonsense from?
"Do you think their air in mexico just stays in mexico? this aint the song what happens in mexico, stays in mexico.. dumb masses all you liberal epa whacko's"
How about we clean up our own backyard before we start pointing fingers? That said, encouraging our neighbors to be environmentally responsible and being so ourselves is not a mutually exclusive scenario; how about we work to fix both... at the same time? That's quite a concept. - SOS84, on 06/30/2008, -0/+3Yes, I am fully aware that budgeting is part of the problem but the military wastes its fair share of money also. Ever heard of the train as you fight docrine which justifies wasting billions of dollars a year. When a single arty battalion goes to the field, they can fire upwards of five hundred rounds a day at a thousand dollars a pop.
They refuse to use dummy rounds using the train as you fight nonsense even though they cost less than a hundred a pop and offer the same training experience as the real thing. Arty is not alone. Other types of units waste similar amounts of money (and pollute at the same time) using the same false reasoning. - pnutbutr, on 06/30/2008, -0/+3My mother spent 30 years serving the federal government as a civilian employee at Fort Meade. Now she has cancer. I'm not saying that she got cancer because of her time at Fort Meade, but damn... seems like the likely cause when you think about it. But then again, why should the federal government care about its employees?
- cheezintern, on 06/30/2008, -1/+4Plenty is getting done. We're securing our nation against terrorism while at the same time bringing democracy to Iraq and Afghanistan.......wow I've been watching too much fox news.
- sgaotw, on 06/30/2008, -1/+4Is cancer "*****" to you?
- jhourcle, on 06/30/2008, -0/+2I'm surprised, and yet not about some of these issues. I interned for 3 summers for ODASD(P&L)E (Office of the Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense (Purchasing & Logistics) for the Environment) during high school. At the time, my dad was on the BRAC.
One of the problems was that DoD wanted to clean up their sites, by moving the problem chemicals to a long-term storage facility and/or destruction facility. Unfortunately, congress passed 50 U.S.C. § 1512a, which forbid the transport of chemical weapons across state lines after 1994. I believe some states passed laws forbidding the transport within the state ... so instead of building a few places to safely destroy / house the chemicals, DoD was required to do it at EVERY facility ... but as with most congressional mandates, I'm going to assume they weren't actually given any funds to do it.
So -- before we blame EPA, or Bush, or DoD -- there's a whole lot of factors in this that didn't make it in a little newspaper article. If you want to be informed before you go off half-cocked, see "Review of the Army Non-Stockpile Chemical Maternal Disposal Program: Disposal of Chemical Agent Identification Sets" (1999). I'm guessing there's probably been followups since then. - foolofatook, on 06/30/2008, -0/+2*****, I can attest that every time a tank platoon rolls for training, it makes the sound of 25k going away.
- TimDigg, on 06/30/2008, -1/+3As someone who lives in Severn and went to Meade high school, I can say I'm a tad shocked about this. Before 9/11(when I could freely walk around Ft. Meade as a civilian) I remember Ft. Meade to be one of the cleanest places in the area.
- sandiegodude, on 06/30/2008, -0/+2"The actions are part of a standoff between the Pentagon and environmental regulators that has been building during the Bush administration, leaving the EPA in a legal limbo as it addresses growing concerns about contaminants on military bases that are seeping into drinking water aquifers and soil."
I was in the Air Force during the Clinton Administration (1996 to 2000) and at that time, keeping with EPA regulation was VERY strict. Working with aircraft of course had its share of dangerous chemical usage. (the crap we used to clean corrosion off our equipment could eat a hole in your hand, imagine what it would do in the water supply!) We were always mindful of toxic chemical rules and storage, due to the fact the EPA could and would fine the base if we didn't comply.
I'm really not surprised to hear the Bush administration has directed the military to ignore the EPA. Yet another feather in his fascist leader cap. - leetninja, on 06/30/2008, -0/+2this is what this country needs ... again ...
http://digg.com/politics/Remember_what_our_country ... - PJ1967, on 06/30/2008, -1/+2Ask yourself the question, "what are my chances of dying in a terrorist act vs dying of cancer caused by pollution?" Then perhaps you will re-evaluate your priorities.
- bentman78, on 06/30/2008, -0/+1Ironically, the USAF is one of the greenest government agencies...
http://greenoptions.com/tag/air-force
http://www.dyess.af.mil/news/story_print.asp?id=12 ... - tehxen3, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1Same to you with manbearpig.
- Arcesius, on 06/30/2008, -1/+2OOOoooooo... the terrists gunna getcha.... thar gunna getcha!... ooOOoooo
- phreak79, on 06/30/2008, -0/+1Relax dude, I'm English :)
- dalexandruz, on 06/30/2008, -4/+5want a cure for cancer? well stop pollution. u.s #1 in cancer. military worried that allah will destroy the u.s, no, the u.s industrial complex will do it by killing everybody with polution. who the f&%k controls the military anyway.
- BufordT, on 06/30/2008, -0/+1The story says the Defense Department is the nation's biggest polluter. Biggest polluter of what? Are they bigger polluters than privately owned companies or corporations? Or are they just larger polluters than any other department of our government? The Washington Post could really try to clarify such things instead of throwing blanket statements out there.
- Betrayer, on 06/30/2008, -0/+1Fuk the EPA... oh wait they are the good guys....
Fuk the Gov.... oh wait they created the good guys...
FUK YOU... ya; I think thats right .. YOU/WE ARE FUKd. - goffy59, on 07/02/2008, -0/+1Well that's too bad. America doesn't need anymore sheep. Its unfortunate we have people like you back at home. Normally I think all people in the military deserve to come home and shouldn't fight for a war that was illegal and wrong. But since you put it that way, again; go ***** die, its your choice.
- cheesehead, on 06/30/2008, -0/+1Horrific information. Especially the bit about firing DU shells into Washington's fishing grounds, but I note that the chem trail wars against Nato countries by Nato or ??? doesn't make the project censored list.
- peterfnet, on 06/30/2008, -0/+1I agree with you. I think the military's beef was that the EPA was giving them orders. And as previously stated, they are actually cleaning up, just not as quickly as the agency who focuses on the environment, would like.
- inactive, on 06/30/2008, -0/+1@26thUSMC
Yeah, dumbass, jump on the Dems for failing to stop the GOP.
Brilliant.
The rightard plan to blame the Dems for not stopping the GOP is going great.
Too bad you were blindly supporting the GOP the last 7 years.
Seriously *****, do you think we are all so dumb we don't know whose side you've been cheering for?
Why is it the dumbasses who put like USMC or NAVY in their names are the most ignorant rightards out there? How do these tiny brained fools represent the Marines? All the Marines I know have brains in their heads, that's what makes me suspect you are another rightard Marine wanna be. - aggiesam, on 06/30/2008, -0/+1The Pentagon didn't get the memo on marking all emails from the EPA as spam.
- Elliuotatar, on 06/30/2008, -0/+1How does this even work? I mean when the morons in our government set up all these agencys didn't they set up a system of who can give orders to whom, AND set up penalties for people in those organizations who refuse to obey those orders?
If the EPA tells me I have to do something, you bet your ass if I refuse I go to jail or get fined, regardless of how I "resist". - DrPh0bius, on 06/30/2008, -0/+1Why doesnt this adminstration do like it did with global warming? Parade out a bunch of scientists who are paid for by special interest groups, and then claim pollution doesnt exist, or that this pollution isnt man-made... its all natural pollution.
- AutumnElayne, on 06/30/2008, -0/+0Au contraire, The government DOES care about the environment since they put a 2 year moratorium on solar power in the Southwest to asses it's environmental impact.
Pfft. - inactive, on 06/30/2008, -1/+1tl;dr, oh, and quit letting the terrorists win.
- rand0mm0nkey, on 06/30/2008, -1/+1Living in constant fear must really suck.
- inactive, on 06/30/2008, -0/+0The military is also the #1 group invested in alternative fuel.
- gtluke, on 06/30/2008, -1/+1so, bush runs the DOD but not the EPA? what kind of logic is that?
- sodade, on 06/30/2008, -5/+6***** you military ***** - this just illustrates how they view the American public. 60 years of raping the American taxpayers for their FUD and all they have done is make us less safe. If Obama was really about change, he'd be talking about slashing their ridiculous budgets and weeding out the insane levels of military corruption. Unfortunately, idiot America has bought their FUD and lies so thoroughly that doing anything anti-military is like pissing on the Iwa Jima flag. Good job you ***** SHEEP.
Name ONE military action of the last 60 years that had a direct benefit to the American people. Oops - you can't. - cornfedbiff, on 06/30/2008, -1/+1That's a good example they're setting.
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