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- FreakyD, on 10/10/2007, -14/+62"This will lead to a type of global warming which will be impossible to stop,"
So can I go buy a Hummer now? - rnwen2750, on 10/10/2007, -7/+43So based on a very unpredictable future we should just piss away our present?
- SpaceParanoids, on 10/10/2007, -7/+30Denial is much easier to swallow.
- positron, on 10/10/2007, -14/+33100,000 years from now, when we have colonized every substantial rocky object within a few thousand lightyears of Earth and man is know as the cockroach of the Milkyway, our only memory of global warming will be our unsurpassed terraforming technology. That which does not kill us only makes us stronger.
- BigManOnCampus, on 10/10/2007, -11/+28Some people clearly need fear as a daily dietary supplement.
- minnymoo, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13great, whats next?
"Don't Recycle, We Don't Care Anymore." - recipher, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12You don't think we'll blow each other up by then?
- zwendkos, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13oh come on.. it's TOO late
/frustration - allaboutdatiki, on 10/10/2007, -7/+16"According to Zimov, when the organic matter left behind by mammoths and other wildlife is exposed to the air by the thawing permafrost, microbes that have been dormant for thousands of years will spring back into action. They’ll begin once again to emit carbon dioxide and methane gas as a by-product. Zimov says thought the microbes are tiny, they will start emitting these gases in enormous quantities simply because there will be a lot of them."
Okay, so first it's gunna smell bad. Really bad. And then ...
WE'RE ALL GUNNA DIE! :O - wendelgee2, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11Unless it does kill us...
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -5/+14normally i wouldn't care, but *****, i live in miami. if the sea level rises even two feet, i'm underwater.
- Me1000, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11Evolution takes many many years.
global climate change normally takes give evolution time, but rapid climate change doesnt.
it is kind of like dropping a human on Mars and telling him to evolve! - NeilAdmirari, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10Even if this hits the fan, it's still makes sense to slow down CO2 production to achieve slower warming.
It is not change that kills - it is change that is too quick to adapt to. - Veritate, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7A bit histrionic, but if global warming (which IS occurring, even if we're not the cause) is accelerated significantly, I'd like to see the updated predictions. Given that Zitmov says it would outpace even the gloomiest of current estimates, that would be a bad thing. I believe humans will survive, but we'll have a lot of problems first.
- KevenM, on 10/10/2007, -4/+10What's more alarming is the potential for the bad type of black oil being unearthed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_oil
- Calcularius, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9Not with fundamentalist christians running the government we won't.
- noahhoward, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8No? That is most likely exactly what will happen. Of course I onlyhave logical thought and thought experiments to go on.
- nonnald, on 10/10/2007, -5/+10http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/too
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/to - crescentfreshld, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7You mean too late?
- trogdoor, on 10/10/2007, -3/+7Please site a peer reviewed journal that suggested "Global Cooling" existed. The media loved the story but scientists did not give any credit to it.
- MerryMortician, on 10/10/2007, -4/+8what a load of *****.
- noumuon, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4it's also debatable whether or not a virus would be able to immediately affect us prior to mutation or not. there is a chance that it would.
- Thorox, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6If the "permafrost" is thawing, shouldn't the name be changed?
- ravens32681, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4It probably is too late, but that doesn't mean which should just stop thinking about the environment. At least we can try to curb the problem instead of screwing up the world even more.
- Arcnite, on 10/10/2007, -4/+7regardless of global warming... "going green" is simply a good idea
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6The greatest thing one could do I suppose is "commit suicide" on behalf of saving the planet. You know who you are, and you know that is the most you will be able to do. If you cared so much, this is without question the thing to do. What are you selfish?
- noumuon, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3except our long term knowledge of climate change does not account for rapid spikes and troughs which average out below their maximums and minimums. you cannot make an accurate comparison between the spikes in high resolution data and the data created by the interpolation of low resolution information to match the higher resolution.
- nick111, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Another thread of cowardly climate change deniers.
The Pentagon thinks it's a problem, Nasa thinks it's a problem, the global consus among climate scientists (you know, the ones who know what they're talking about) is that it's a problem... every world leader on earth except for Bush thinks its a problem... hell, even the Pope thinks it's a problem
But a load of unfathomably dumb ***** on Digg who are too scared to face up to their responsabilities are trying to deny it.
So ask yourselves... what will it take to change your minds? Probably nothing, because you're not that smart... but if there is something, then do some research, it's probably already happening. - krets, on 10/10/2007, -4/+7What about the potential unearthing of a large catacombs where aliens from one planet hunt aliens from another?
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -5/+8I for one welcome our new permafrost degrading, carbon dioxide emitting, prehistoric microbe overlords.
- Terrk, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Codehkr, Adaptation does not = Evolution.
- Logicexe, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5A virus would almost certainly not be able to infect us, not immediately anyway. It would have to mutate enough to infect some modern animal. Bacteria can cause infections, but those are treatable and will probably be much easier to treat than modern bacteria because these guys haven't been exposed to antibiotics and become immune.
And yes, this is a very real danger. It's a debatable point as to how likely this sort of hyper warming situation is to occur, but positive feedback loops are fairly well understood and supported by good science and good evidence. This is merely a worse case scenario. - Logicexe, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6I love reading the comments on articles about global warming. It's like you guys are all having a contest to see who can come up with the biggest strawman.
- Logicexe, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2A non-zero chance yes, but it's more likely that it wouldn't. Of course, that doesn't mean the risk is negligible, it might only take a few weeks/months for that (un)lucky mutation to occur. Even then, the virus may not even be very harmful and I assume those areas aren't very densely populated (correct me if I'm wrong) which would reduce the risk of quickly spreading to large populations.
- kmattso, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Those damn mammoths are going to screw things up for the rest of us!
- Mrstupid7, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I think pre-anthropogenic levels of CO2 were around 220 to 250 ppm and now we're at 380 ppm, most of which came after the industrial revolution started.
- noumuon, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3no need for buying dump trucks; i already have an internet connection.
- elvisjulep, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4nothing is more painful than bitter people trying vainly to be funny.
- vikingcoder, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3That science was arrived at by... wait for it... logical thought and thought experiments.
Your ignorance & lack of comprehension does not disprove anything. - Logicexe, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2"The greatest thing one could do I suppose is "commit suicide" on behalf of saving the planet. You know who you are, and you know that is the most you will be able to do. If you cared so much, this is without question the thing to do. What are you selfish?"
No one is suggesting this as a solution to climate change.
"First, What? Secondly, Gore and his ilk want to use fear to take your money in the form of all kinds of ridiculous taxes. Please point me toward the source that says anything at all like, ""We should take away freedom from citizens and give corporations and republicans all the power or terrorists will eat your babies!". Can you liberal enviro-weenies even pretend to be intellectually honest?"
No one is advocating taking away freedoms, just encouraging people to take the environmental consequences of their actions in everyday life. Although I do admit is a little more of a red herring since it's dodging the issue of whether or not global warming is true and going for the purely political route.
Then there's always the anti-alarmist bull****, as if declaring that someone is an alarmist magically makes them incorrect.
OK, so maybe they're not all strawmen, how about we generalize it to logical fallacy and call it a night? - GabrielS, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Pretty darn close though. Digg is now Zaibatsu's personal newspaper. He cannot lose. Everything he posts makes the frontpage now.
- norman619, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2A nice steamy pile. Yes.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3So humans will evolve into a more 'Lizard on a rock' type of species, why is that so bad?
- Intrepion, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2you mean 5 years left
unless of course you're a traveler from the future who came back to warn us and you accidentally went to 2007 instead of 2008 and now you're stuck
here because you needed the long-lost blueprints of an ancient computer to get your time machine working again so you can save the world by keeping Hayden from getting killed by the bad guy! But those blueprints won't exist for another year! So now you have to spend the whole next year making blogs and chatting on IRC about how you need those blueprints!
Either that or you're bad at math /shrug - Speed, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4"This will lead to a type of global warming which will be impossible to stop,"
I'm investing in Air Conditioner now. - BESTenemy, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5The scientist's name is Sergei Zimov. In Russian "zima" means "winter". How appropriate.
- Knobee, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4And here I was thinking that Zima meant a cool clear semi-alcoholic beverage. I bet that next you'll tell me that Smirnoff is the last name of a comedian...
- vikingcoder, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2That contest is a publicity scam. The rules states that if you answer the question, they'll change the question.
http://ultimateglobalwarmingchallenge.com/
Entrants acknowledge that the concepts and terms mentioned and referred to in the UGWC hypotheses are inherently and necessarily vague, and involve subjective judgment. JunkScience.com reserves the exclusive right to determine the meaning and application of such concepts and terms in order to facilitate the purpose of the contest. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Only 4 years left, 2012 is looming.
- KeepSwinging, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Or a pissed off evil giant robot that can transform?
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