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- inactive, on 10/05/2008, -0/+30Despite the articles date, this issue is REALLY old and was turned down as being both impractical and completely ridiculous
It does however highlight the stupidity of jumping head-first into things like the Kyoto protocol. Here in New Zealand our problem with cutting emissions by half is that we don't make much to begin with. We have a tiny population, most of the country is covered in forests so we can't plant more to offset emissions, most of our power (70%) is from hydro, a chunk of geothermal (10%) and the small remainder is natural gas and coal - so we can't really reduce emissions there either. Even if we wanted to, we don't have the population to pay for expensive new powerplants, dams and transmission lines.
Argiculture is our mainstay. We can't reduce livestock levels either else our exports go down and we're screwed. Taxing farmers for cow emissions increase prices and does the same thing; we pay more, you pay more, people buy less, economy is screwed. Thanks Kyoto!
All Kyoto does for us is makes us pay for make-believe carbon credits, which raise the costs of food, power, everything. It may even force the closure of some larger industries, for example the Aluminium smelter down south - although its power comes from hydro (the smelter uses 15% of the ENTIRE countries power), smelting gives off large amounts of CO2. They may be forced to close up shop and move offshore which is very bad for many reasons: The new smelter may not run on clean hydro like it does here so it could produce up to quadruple the emissions elsewhere. It also means job losses and over a billion less dollars to the economy.
Frakkin' hippies. - lockr, on 10/05/2008, -1/+26If they tax the methane from the flocks, maybe they should get a carbon credit for the trees on their land?
- ligyron, on 10/05/2008, -2/+26'at first i thought this was from the onion LOL'
- psud0, on 10/05/2008, -1/+15"The New Zealand government has come up with the idea of putting a levy on the global-warming emissions of sheep and cows. " OMG, imagine they put fart-gas measure gadgets on sheep to control the emissions :)
- basye, on 10/05/2008, -0/+9Some of us will be paying more than others, heh.
- chubbybubba, on 10/05/2008, -6/+15If America just taxed Rosie Odonell the same way they'd have their 700 billion in 2 months.
- dawnraid101, on 10/05/2008, -0/+8This is a non story sorry. The Idea was floated a year or two ago, nothing has ever come of it, We are currently leading up to elections in New Zealand (November) and both major parties have ruled out the introduction of this legislation.
Cool headline, ***** story. - Haoie, on 10/05/2008, -0/+7You never really think about how flatulant livestock are, until this.
- inactive, on 10/05/2008, -1/+7I live in NZ and this is old news. Farmers werent happy about it so it didnt get put through. Im sure it was stopped like 2 years ago.
- dawnraid101, on 10/05/2008, -0/+5I'll never digg you up, I'll only let you down, and run around and hurt you.
- MacBookForMe, on 10/05/2008, -2/+7that is only pre-stage and testing ground for developing gadgets for us - people to TAX us, ever more...
- poidh, on 10/06/2008, -1/+6A study in the UK showed that for every pound spent on anti-global warming measures, only 4 pence (4%) provided useful work. The figures will be similar for other areas of the world.
Common sense shows worldwide that governments love climate change because it gives them an excuse for extra taxes for the citizens, and provides another pretext for control of said citizens. - jmantra, on 10/06/2008, -0/+4Dugg for an article about NZ and an image of sheep
- subterfuge, on 10/06/2008, -0/+3for those who don't know, tree farming is a fairly popular form of investment in new zealand. if you think about it, it makes sense because it doesn't require any maintenance after you plant the saplings. and land is plentiful there.
- stenk, on 10/05/2008, -2/+5This fart tax stinks!
That is what we call it down under ;)
This is pretty old news though! Has been in the pipe line for ages! Man another pun! - ttait, on 10/06/2008, -0/+3I agree with every word you said then. It was ridiculous that the Kyoto protocol even got passed here. It got rushed through parliament with no proper thought.
- elmuerte17, on 10/06/2008, -1/+4they gonna start taxing volcanoes too?
- dawnraid101, on 10/06/2008, -2/+4Genius as in it would cause majour pressure on the economy?
- twistaspliff, on 10/06/2008, -1/+3Exactly. Man made climate change is a scam. It's too bad the sheeple are too lazy to look at both sides of this issue and see just how ridiculous the global warming myth really is. It's so much easier to just blindly follow Al Gore and David de Rothschild into further debt slavery.
- collution, on 10/05/2008, -2/+4That's coming from a guy named "chubbybubba."
- Shaman760, on 10/05/2008, -0/+2Methane Credits?
- BountyHNZ, on 10/06/2008, -0/+2we also made it illegal to smack your children as punishment.....
- aadsfasdf, on 10/06/2008, -0/+2We need to stop tinkering. Using paper bags instead of plastic is not going to save the planet. People are going to live how they want to, which means driving a gas guzzler or buying cow products. Looking past the trees at the forest, the problem is the growing populations. The only real solution is to slow down population growth, and the only historically proven way to do that is through a higher standard of living, as a result of economic development. So find out about microfinance or do something to encourage investment in the people in developing nations.
- fragm29, on 10/06/2008, -0/+2Methane is 25 times worse than CO2. It's really good at trapping heat.
- oblivian92, on 10/06/2008, -0/+2"We'll hide in the one place where they'll never find us. In Imagination Land where you burp where you fart, and you fart where you burp" - Peter Griffin
- sekander94, on 10/06/2008, -0/+1*Rolls eyes in shame at his own country*
- tumatakuru, on 10/06/2008, -0/+1well I thought it was funny and you deserve multiple diggs ...
,,,,, suppose I must be immature. - spyd3rweb, on 10/06/2008, -1/+2No this is aimed more at revenue generation than doing anything environmental.
- bedlam, on 10/05/2008, -0/+1awesome!
- androothebear, on 10/06/2008, -1/+2not the Onion?
- MrBussi, on 10/06/2008, -0/+1hmm, it might because its methane which is a far worse greenhouse gas, than CO2
- slapthemonkey, on 10/06/2008, -0/+1This is wierd
- ttait, on 10/06/2008, -0/+1I agree with you but I don't think this would really fix that. But it is definitely an issue that needs to be addressed.
- kotn2012, on 10/05/2008, -1/+2Oh, that's just Rosie trying to get her name out there.
- dojonz, on 10/05/2008, -1/+2As a New Zealander I'm in two minds about it. On the one hand, dairy farmers are wealthy from a sharp rise in international dairy prices. On the other, our government should not be trying to make us an example to the world for green initiatives at an economic cost. What we produce is so insignificant, it is laughable.
- lmf49, on 10/06/2008, -0/+1Roll with it Baby, Yeah!
- CJ2020nz, on 10/06/2008, -1/+2slightly embarrassed to a Kiwi right now.. hahah. nah its allgood.. gives us something to be famous for other than lord of the rings..
- aadsfasdf, on 10/06/2008, -0/+1OMG indeed.
- inactive, on 10/06/2008, -0/+1Global warming is a fiction?
- BullHunter, on 10/06/2008, -0/+1Taxed As! Ey Bro?
- pingudownunder, on 10/06/2008, -0/+1i just farted
- subterfuge, on 10/06/2008, -1/+2kthxbye
- aussiessuck, on 10/06/2008, -2/+3hippies - They say they want to change the world but all they do is smoke pot and smell bad.
Kyoto is a friggen joke - the idea of a capitalist hippie. be there such a thing. - gigasquid, on 10/06/2008, -1/+2This is the latest money-grabbing scam by the NZ Labour government - scheme based on fiction put out to the NZ people as irrevocable truth. It is also a classic example of "The bigger the microscope, the further up your a*se you get" syndrome.
- ligyron, on 10/05/2008, -0/+1It won't work a second time
- bluesman3535, on 10/06/2008, -0/+1Just another country running out of tax options going straight up the ass.
- beblunt, on 10/06/2008, -0/+1***** TO YOU ALL, we have the best weed in the world, beat that.
- inactive, on 10/06/2008, -1/+2Do you have any idea how polluted our rivers and lakes are? Take the Waikato - you can no longer safely swim in 80% of the rivers. Hardly insignificant.
- aadsfasdf, on 10/06/2008, -0/+1@sedatedson, I agree, governments tend to decrease in size over time if anything.
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