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- Phylter, on 04/29/2009, -9/+62Wait a sec, I'll have to run it past James Inhofe before I believe this. He's the world's leading global warming expert (apparently).
- MercyPolitics, on 04/29/2009, -31/+68To me, denying global warming is like denying the holocaust. It falls under the completely delusional category.
- novenator, on 04/29/2009, -4/+31I thought George Will was.
- enevitable, on 04/29/2009, -13/+40Guys, none of this matters because c02 doesn't induce global warming, its a natural part of nature!
"Carbon dioxide, Mister Speaker, is a natural byproduct of nature. Carbon dioxide is natural. It occurs in Earth. It is a part of the regular lifecycle of Earth. In fact, life on planet Earth can't even exist without carbon dioxide. So necessary is it to human life, to animal life, to plant life, to the oceans, to the vegetation that's on the Earth, to the, to the fowl that -- that flies in the air, we need to have carbon dioxide as part of the fundamental lifecycle of Earth." -Michele Bachmann
With people like this in the party, no wonder they are quickly becoming irrelevant. - Phylter, on 04/29/2009, -4/+28Yeah, but Inhofe's a US SENATOR, Will's just a lying shill... Um, on second thoughts, so's Inhofe...
- EarlOfLade, on 04/29/2009, -14/+37The deniers are often the same people or from the same country.
I currently live in Florida and even a minor increase in sea levels will be a disaster for the state. Now I'm sure many view Florida as a retirement home, but nothing could be further from the truth and losing Florida would be a disaster for the country. Space exploration would be severely hindered along with a huge increase in the cost of citrus and various citrus juices. Central Florida has an enormous income from tourists etc. - ProLick, on 04/29/2009, -2/+22Exactly! It proves that the Antarctica had so much snow this year that it caused the collapse. How can it be warming with all that snow?
- psy333che, on 04/29/2009, -14/+33 They will have to be knee deep in water and still blame it on something else... They deal in very little reality and more in their own form of hysteria with lies and more lies... quoting supposed facts which are not existing at all
I do not feel they are able to really read and choose to just rely on each other to support their lies and propaganda - inactive, on 04/29/2009, -19/+37This is good news for Global Warming Deniers!
- wrathchilde, on 04/29/2009, -6/+24That is inaccurate.
Following is a direct link to easily understandable graphs of earth surface temperature anomalies.
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/ - Phylter, on 04/29/2009, -17/+35The GWD (Global Warming Deniers) should go to Australia, where this ***** is taken REAL seriously. While they're down there, they can deny that there's a hole in the ozone layer, but when you can get sunburned in fifteen minutes, that's all the proof needed that they're talking outta their arses. They're suffering from Reverse Chicken Little Syndrome (RCLS). The sky IS falling!
Of course, the GWDs wouldn't GO to Australia, that'd mean leaving their basement command centers... - zephyear, on 04/29/2009, -2/+19maybe we'll be lucky and just jacksonville will sink
- MacroDaemon, on 04/30/2009, -13/+30BREAKING <- this is what ice shelves do.
- MercyPolitics, on 04/29/2009, -8/+23@ThinkBox, I hope the box of misinformation you live in is fully waterproof. You will need it if you live in a coastal area.....
- ProLick, on 04/29/2009, -7/+21Clearly Republican experts will agree that the Antarctica had so much snow this year that it caused the collapse.
- inactive, on 04/30/2009, -29/+42The Holocaust is a historical reality. Global warming is a theory based on junk science, and AlGore's desire to pocket more of your money. Climate change is a historical reality. It's been happening since the earth cooled.
- Jascol, on 04/30/2009, -5/+17You know what, you guys are exactly right. We don't know what's going to happen in the next few years with all this global warming stuff... No one can, but surely.... you don't really want to mess around too much with something as complicated as the climate/atmosphere?? Even the best scientists in the world don't fully understand how it works, let alone some redneck hick.
- bogdon6, on 04/30/2009, -10/+22How exactly this is evidence of global warming? This could reduce the amount of ice by 800 to 3,000 sq kms, according to the article. However, right now there is more than 1.5 million square kilometers more sea ice than normal in Antarctica. http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/cur ... How is having more than 1.5 million square kilometers more sea ice than normal not news?
- angeladtao, on 04/30/2009, -5/+16These people don't believe in data, wrathchilde. It's all a liberal plot, you see. Like factcheck.com or anything else that didn't come out of their pastor's mouth. It amazes me how knowledgeable these pastors are. They are experts in every field, including fields of science that take most people years and years of study to become expert in. Yet, they can proclaim the 'truth' from their ministerial books and studies on just about every topic. I know a lot about that because I lived with a Fundamentalist Christian minister and his family for awhile when I was a teenager. Good people but not really scientifically oriented. Oh, yes, they frowned on higher education for their kids in this religion. That's who makes up a lot of the religious right. They believe whatever their trusted authority figures tell them and don't have critical thinking skills.
- colosis, on 04/30/2009, -2/+13man, great chance to use "BREAKING" in a title and you dont do it.
- pingveno, on 04/30/2009, -2/+13"Carbon dioxide: They call it pollution. We call it life."
A real ad from the "Competitive Enterprise Institute". Look it up. - Jerryrad, on 04/30/2009, -3/+13I remember the good ol' days when I used to be able to put ice in my lemonade and know that it wouldn't melt for a good half-hour. Now, thanks to global warming, my damn ice melts in 28.5 minutes.
- borez, on 04/30/2009, -3/+13"The atmospheric warming cannot be directly linked to the recent mass losses in West Antarctica. This mass loss is more likely to be due to increased melting of the ice shelves because of changes in ocean circulation patterns. This in turn causes the ice streams to speed up.The melting and disappearance of the floating ice shelves will only have a small effect on sea level, which is due to salinity differences. The most important consequence of their increased melting is the speed up of the ice streams on land which are buttressed by these ice shelves."
- BrokenNebula, on 04/30/2009, -4/+13Posting this 3 times in the same discussion doesn't make you right. It makes you that annoying kind of retarded kid everyone ignores.
- lead2thehead, on 04/30/2009, -12/+21So what? This is perfectly normal. The ice in Antarctica is very volatile. It shrinks in the summer and in the winter, it grows to nearly 6 times the amount that it is in the summer. Right now is the end of the Antarctic summer, so the ice is at its thinnest. So yeah, chunks are going to break off. And then new sections will be added in the coming months when the ice refreezes.
This is a seasonal story, much like the shark attack stories we get in the summer. Every spring, the internet is full of stories about ice in antarctica breaking up. The media and the environmentalists try to put everybody into panic mode by screaming... OMG! Global warming! The sky is falling! Everybody panic! And then they show that picture of the polar bear floating on a chunk of ice in the water. But if you read up on it, you'll see that like many things, it's not nearly as big of a deal as the media is making it out to be. - ProLick, on 04/29/2009, -12/+20Can't we change it to the GWBs (Global Warming BSers)? Just for the sake of having a single acronym to associate with Republican idiocy.
- kihadat, on 04/30/2009, -5/+13I honestly can't believe that we're still having this conversation. But the bitter truth is that Inuit villages in the Arctic circle are already being relocated and villages on the delta plains of Bangladesh, among many other impoverished regions of the world, will be next and in fact are already experiencing the effects of global warming. Through it all, we have been and will still be having this conversation about a global warming hoax because for all the technology and medicine they've created for us, for all the discoveries they have made, we still don't believe scientists when they tell us something we don't want to hear.
- lead2thehead, on 04/30/2009, -14/+22Well sure, we might be able to affect that cycle. But we don't even know what a normal cycle is supposed to look like, so we don't even know for sure that it's abnormal yet.
- lead2thehead, on 04/30/2009, -11/+18Exaggerating the effects of it to ridiculous levels is just as delusional.
- MerchantofPanic, on 04/30/2009, -6/+12Wow. Looks like a graph that has conveniently been ignored by the climate change lobby. I cant believe this is not in the news!
- enevitable, on 04/30/2009, -1/+7Great post anarchist101, an example of the constructive ideas we need instead of the usual dichotomous banter politics usually boils down to.
You are entirely correct about big business passing on the costs of carbon taxes to the consumer, what they justify as more operating costs we justify as their duty to the environment, therein lying the fallacy.
I also am skeptical about cap and trade, as hard to implement and enforce as carbon taxes, especially as 3/5 of our corporations don't pay their taxes to being with.
Also the video of Michele Bachmann, and the rest of her speech is a lot funnier when in context. I suggest you guys watch it, its hilarious when the next speaker comes on and accuses her of making stuff up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAaDVOd2sRQ
And if any of you haven't been following any of the ***** crazy things Michele has been saying lately, heres some catching up to do:
"We're running out of rich people"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbcaxjAkJ-Q
Denying Global warming
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wX1UnAtynU
"Micheal Steele, you be da man!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-DQANalAe0&fea ...
"God called me to run for US congress"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ4wtwcrybM
"Speaks out against hate crimes legislation"
http://www.c-spanarchives.org/library/index.php?ma ...
I knew there had to be more clips of her, that's when i stumbled across: http://dumpbachmann.blogspot.com/
Good thing this lady says enough dumb ***** to get a blog dedicated to it. Shes the perfect example of what kind of hatred ignorance helps breed. - mithrasinvictus, on 04/30/2009, -2/+8Angeladtao, It's not their fault: they have a condition:
http://scienceblogs.com/mixingmemory/2007/09/liber ...
"Stronger conservatism (versus liberalism) was associated with less neurocognitive sensitivity to response conflicts. At the behavioral level, conservatives were also more likely to make errors of commission" - lostlyrics, on 04/29/2009, -8/+14yeah and stormfront, your pinocchio paul's supporter
is just a multicultural happening of the woodstock type. - Rothbardosaurus, on 04/30/2009, -7/+13Denying history is the same as decrying alarmism?
Who's delusional? - mrnathan, on 04/30/2009, -6/+12Even if its minimal its there, and we should be doing the simple ***** things to avoid further damage.
Not everyone gets cancer from smoking, does that mean we should all smoke as you 'probably' won't die from it? Do you have something against those that choose not to smoke? I doubt it. Get over yourself. - rignopolis, on 04/30/2009, -5/+11Damnit! Don't bother us with facts.
/s - whimmel, on 04/30/2009, -1/+7Disneyland is in California. While much of Jacksonville would be underwater in so much as a Category 3 hurricane, Central Florida is about an hour from either coast and 100-200 ft above sea level. We might lose about 50% of Florida, but Walt Disney World will probably survive.
- MacEnvy, on 04/30/2009, -1/+7You sound like a Real American®. So very patriotic. I'm surprised you cared that 9/11 happened at all, considering it just took out some libruls in NYC.
Funny how NYC was American enough to get attacked, but not American enough for the right-wing. Must be those of us on the coasts just don't understand what it means to be a Real American®. - MercyPolitics, on 04/30/2009, -3/+9Great quote! Thanks.
- Galroc, on 04/30/2009, -0/+5The view he takes is way too simple.
Wealth and a stronger economy can equal better health care, better technology, better living conditions, better transportation, better support for the disabled, etc.. Not a complete list by any means, and a weaker economy could result in shorter life spans because of the reverse.
How do you get that wealth? By using cheap energy. Western society built itself by using cheap energy and now we are preventing 3rd world countries from doing the same. African countries are told to not use cheap coal, but must use green energy, which means less people get cheap energy in African, increasing mortality rates.
So, the guy in the video can use his computer, to post a video, so us westerners can view it on our computers, all powered by coal, meanwhile someone is living in a hut in Africa who can't get clean water and their kids are dying of dysentery because energy costs are too high to run a well. - heysuburbia, on 04/30/2009, -0/+5Rep. John Shimkus: God decides when the "earth will end".
There you have it, no such thing as global warming hurting the planet, God says so.
/s - mrnathan, on 04/30/2009, -7/+12Logic and science suggests otherwise; so I guess your in the religious category? Or just the nutjob al gore hating 'I don't give a ***** about anything but myself' american retard category?
- ProLick, on 04/29/2009, -5/+10You tell'em ThinkBox. It's the increased snow falls that made those ice thingees collapse.
- MokeyAUS, on 04/30/2009, -3/+8I'm no global warming denier, but I'd heard the hole in the ozone layer had actually shrunk.
Anyways, I'm an aussie with good skin, so i'm one of the lucky ones who can sit in the sun all day without getting burned. ***** good. - inactive, on 04/30/2009, -7/+12"..widely blamed on global warming"
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Is "widely blamed" a new scientific criteria for determining cause and effect? - PragmaticStat, on 04/30/2009, -2/+7Let us assume that a good amount of CO2 is natural and that it is cyclable creating periods of devastation to all living things. But man has added a lot of CO2 on top of what is natural and thus exellerated the balance of nature. Then add the heat-retaining characteristics of all the plastic particles discovered floating on the top of vast sections of our oceans. Essentially acting like a plastic heat-retaining swimming pool cover or food service container stretching from California to Japan in the Pacific as well as other oceans. This additional concentrated heat in our oceans -- bigger than France -- could act like an artificial El Niño and further affect our weather. Thus, adding to the global warming problem and the oceans oscillation. So when you add our fuel emissions to the heat-retaining characteristics of our plastic oceans, you get a serious problem created by man.
- mrnathan, on 04/30/2009, -3/+8We also need oxygen to live, but if there were too much we'd have problems. Things would combust, animals would die. Infact if you do some actual research isntead of peddling ***** quotes that mean ***** you'd find that levels of these substances also change overtime, the problem is they change over millions of years, where the earth and its filtration devices can adapt, as can life/ Making that change over a period of 100 years ***** things up. It's really simple stuff.
Pointless quote, no worth whatsoever.
Why deny something that requires no real effort to avoid anyway? You'd rather risk it, against all scientific probability, for what reason? Cause you're a dick? probably. - Charlotte_Web, on 04/30/2009, -0/+4A story came out just yesterday that the ice around the North Pole was much thicker than expected:
http://digg.com/environment/North_Pole_ice_sheet_i ... - Rothbardosaurus, on 04/30/2009, -4/+8PRESENT TRENDS WILL CONTINUE FOREVER!!!!! THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED!!!
- milkmage, on 04/30/2009, -0/+4nobody denies the fact that c02 is required for life. but the fact remains that life (the oceans, plants, etc) did just fine before indutrialization. a hundred years ago there were essentially no cars and humanity wasn't using electricity on the scale that we're using it today. today you have millions of cars on the roads, fossil fuel buring power plants, and deforestation. we're simply creating more co2 than nature can "recycle".
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