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- dse78759, on 06/29/2009, -15/+173Lesson 1: Don't build a city below sea level.
Lesson 2 : Don't rebuild a city below sea level. - inactive, on 06/30/2009, -4/+60Lesson 3: learn from the Dutch who have an entire country below sea level.
- BREZZZ, on 06/30/2009, -8/+47It's already underwater. We just build levees and pump it out at great expense, because the great culture of New Orleans would be ruined if it were forced to move 10 miles inland.
- leroydasquirrel, on 06/30/2009, -31/+65Good riddance, I live in Louisiana and New Orleans people are a-holes. When Katrina happened all the "refugees" migrated to my neck of the woods, they felt entitled to special treatment because they were Katrina "Victims" despite the fact they had an advance warning to get the hell out and the fact that New Orleans is below sea level, what else did they expect to happen.
- jeches, on 06/30/2009, -6/+39Girls Gone Wild Mardi Gras: Underwater Edition
- itstodd, on 06/29/2009, -30/+63I'm confused... Is this suppose to be bad news?
- dse78759, on 06/30/2009, -6/+32Do the Dutch live near hurricanes?
- ousthouse, on 06/30/2009, -7/+31"The bullet didn't kill him... it was the massive blood loss that killed him."
- ousthouse, on 06/30/2009, -6/+26I live 300 miles inland from the Gulf of Mexico and it's not uncommon to find fossils of sea shells and aquatic life from long long ago. Sea levels rise and fall.... we can usually control it in the short term with dams, levees and pumps... but when you start talking about planning for 100+ years out, it's a lost cause.
- omgwtflawl, on 06/30/2009, -3/+23I BUILT A CITY! But it fell into the swamp. SO I BUILT ANOTHER CITY!
- Arsenard, on 06/30/2009, -3/+21The Corps of Engineers did this, by speeding up the Mississippi and causing it to deposit silt out into the Gulf of Mexico instead of the Delta. They are the ones who screwed up the Florida Everglades also!
- zacharytelschow, on 06/30/2009, -7/+21A city destroyed by a hurricane and then rebuilt below sea level next to the ocean is going to eventually end up under water? No way!
- badenglishihave, on 06/30/2009, -10/+24Well since I believe man-made global warming is unproven, I think we have to accept that nature will do what she will. I think humans are too insignificant to make a big impact on the environment. We can't stop sea levels from rising.
- Math, on 06/30/2009, -7/+21Did anyone read the article? No big deal?
"Between 10,000 and 13,500 square kilometres of coastal lands will drown due to rising sea levels and subsidence by 2100, a far greater loss than previous estimates."
Its not just New Orleans, that's a land area equivalent to a small to medium size country such as Lebanon. That's trillions of dollars of land underwater. - bradleyland, on 06/30/2009, -1/+15@ dse78759
The Netherlands shoreline sees storms annually that would put New Orleans underwater without much trouble. The flood control systems built by the Dutch are arguably the best in the world. - firebhaal, on 06/30/2009, -1/+15Mermaids gone wild
- G_money, on 06/30/2009, -2/+15Unlike the Netherlands, the US has PLENTY of land that is well above sea level. Why spend billions of dollars trying to battle mother nature?
- jba68, on 06/30/2009, -1/+14If it wasn't the corp, it would have been someone else.
People attempt to engineer nature to fit their needs, and it bites them in the ass. - shazbot, on 06/30/2009, -3/+16And boobies... sweet, luscious boobies. God, I love Mardi Gras.
- insomniacal, on 06/30/2009, -6/+17Katrina gave us an easy out, and we missed it.
In fact we continue to miss it. FTA: ".. the findings could bring some hard choices about how to defend the coast against the future sea level rises that will be produced by climate change."
Give it up already ... - luigi821, on 06/29/2009, -3/+13I don't think it's going to be sea level rise by itself that will cause problems, but rather a deadly combination of sea level rise + subsidence + catastrophic hurricanes whose damage will be worsened by the effects of sea level rise
- SpinningHead, on 06/30/2009, -7/+17Whomever dugg you down knows nothing about NOLA. It has more history and culture than most cities in the country.
- Hetman, on 06/30/2009, -2/+12It could be under water in the next 10 years. It is below sea level right now. Another hurricane could cause just as much destruction as katrina.
- sbedrick123, on 06/29/2009, -15/+24Ohhh noooo. I love New Orleanssss. It's soo beautiful and cultured.. not for long :(
- SpinningHead, on 06/30/2009, -3/+12I used to live in New Orleans. Yeah, were not as genteel as all those wonderful folks out in the country. Incidentally, NOLA was the only reason David Duke didn't win the governor's race.
- vogelshock, on 06/30/2009, -5/+14I'm a New Orleanian. You posters are idiots. The reason New Orleans was built was because it sits on the mouth of the largest river in the U.S. 1/3 of our nation's natural gas and oil is shipped or piped from the Gulf through the city's ports and refineries. Tens of millions of tons of cargo are STILL shipped by boat up the Mississippi to U.S. ports each year. And, historically, you can partially (but necessarily) thank our victory in the Revolutionary War to our French friends who shipped supplies and troops through the Port of New Orleans.
Bury me down, you ignorant, American-hating trolls. - lead2thehead, on 06/30/2009, -2/+10When you build your town below sea level, what the hell do you expect?
- kreatre2007, on 06/30/2009, -3/+11Awesome! Thank you! You're right. W did cause that hurricane. He tried to do it a second time, but the hurricane when for Houston instead. It's totally cool how Bush was able to control the weather.
- thcobbs, on 06/30/2009, -4/+11Wait... I thought it technically WAS under water.
- biogears, on 06/30/2009, -7/+14Don't worry, the American taxpayer will be tapped to build up the land so people can live under sea level.
- proliance, on 06/30/2009, -1/+8New Orleans is already below sea level and it's built on soft, spongy ground that's been sinking for a very long time. No need to try to blame it's demise on global warming.
- SpinningHead, on 06/30/2009, -2/+9Most of the booby flashers are tourists.
- Jektal, on 06/30/2009, -2/+8That one caught on fire, fell over, and then sank into the swamp. SO I BUILT ANOTHER! And that one stayed up!
- anthropodeus, on 06/30/2009, -6/+12New Orleans to be underwater by 2005*
- WhiskeyLemur, on 06/30/2009, -1/+7joe, I hate to break it to you, but while ice *does* take up about 10% more volume than a corresponding weight of water, it also *floats* on top of water. And it's not the same as the ice cubes floating in your mojito, either - these are massive sheets of ice, not chunks, so there's more area for the water to "push up" (sort of like the difference between floating on your back and trying to walk on water - the mass/volume of the object is constant, but the result is quite different). Not to mention that some of them are on land. So yeah, if the ice melts, the ocean levels will rise.
Now, what no one is saying is that even if the melt is termed "catastrophic," it's still happening in geological terms. It's not going to happen overnight. - ferrisnox, on 06/30/2009, -3/+9Yea cause New Orleans is just like Venice! Get a clue.
- omgwtflawl, on 06/30/2009, -4/+10http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/32/Msye ...
@Spinninghead
Other then everything you say being wrong, you are totally correct! Notice how the French Quarter is higher then the rest of the city, while the places that got truly *****, like the 9th Ward, are the lowest parts of the city. Also notice how pretty much the entire city is below sea level.
As for the rest of your "by that logic abandon all coastal cities" statements, why do other cities manage to not have the massive flooding/hurricane problem that NO does? If you want to rebuild, that is fine. But do it on your own dime, not through federal handouts. - SpinningHead, on 06/30/2009, -6/+12We need to hire the Dutch to build the levees and tell the Corps of Engineers to piss off.
- inactive, on 06/30/2009, -9/+14Bah, they don't have a clue. Short-term climate trends are no indication of future movement. Whatever happens is out of our hands. But even if it does end up happening, people will move. There's plenty of time.
- kreatre2007, on 06/30/2009, -1/+6Add to that the fact that the Earth's climate has gone through thousands of changes, maybe millions of changes over the last 4.5 billion years. All of this climate change/global warming "research" completely ignores or underestimates this fact. Man cannot have such an intense impact on the overall climate. The oceans are the largest source of carbon dioxide, and the Sun is the largest source of heat in the atmosphere. If the Earth is changing, we can't do a damn thing to stop it. It's arrogant and naive to believe otherwise. Like other species on Earth, we just have to learn to adapt to the changes since we cannot do anything to stop them.
- joe122370, on 06/30/2009, -1/+6the entire middle section of the US used to be underwater
- inactive, on 06/30/2009, -2/+7That bastard Bush.
This is almost as devious as the time when he was the Governor of Texas and he gave all the Democrats in Congress bad intel on Iraq. - kreatre2007, on 06/30/2009, -6/+11Doom and gloom. If this were true, we would see MEASURABLE changes now. These projections are always so far off that no one can actually disprove it. This is horse *****. No one knows what's going to happen 91 years from now. Almost 40 years ago, climatologists were claiming that we were heading into a global cooling period. The Earth's environment is in constant change. There is absolutely no way to predict what will happen that far out.
- KMye, on 06/30/2009, -4/+8So that means 95 years later, it'll be the same as 2005...where the trend? ;)
- SigmaXXX, on 06/30/2009, -1/+5New Orleans is sinkin man, and I don't wanna swim.
- MemorabIename, on 06/30/2009, -0/+4That might be the most accurate statement I've ever heard.
- inactive, on 06/30/2009, -1/+5Damn. Well, at least my uncle will make a killing trawling for shrimp.
- Jeepinator, on 06/30/2009, -0/+4Is it cost effective to rebuild a city that is going to get drowned again sometime in the future? It could happen again next year for all we know.
- Charlotte_Web, on 06/30/2009, -0/+4Yes, New Orleans is already 12 feet below sea level.
They'll just build higher levees and add more pumps. - inactive, on 06/30/2009, -7/+11And Cap and Trade isn't going to do anything to stop it.
Well, it might do one thing: It might cause so much economic misery for the oil industry in LA that no one will be living in New Orleans in 2100... it might be a ghost town by then. -
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