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- greenfyre, on 07/04/2008, -7/+36Speaking as a Canadian I am a little puzzled by this one. The impacts on Canada will vary depending on what time / temperature point the authors are using . Do they mean 2015, 2030? 2050? 2070?
As far as I know the moderate scenario looks something like i) the already water stressed western agriculture collapses due to aridity and soil loss, ii) ocean acidification finishes off the troubled fisheries, iii) the forests that don't burn become pest infested, then burn, iv) radical changes in river flow (up or down) hammer hydoroelectric production, etc.
Those who imagine (and there are quite a few of them) that we will just move our agriculture north have never tried to plow a very shallow soil layer overlaying solid rock, which is what most of the north is. It's quite tricky
The premise of using low population density as a sign of being able to resist climate change has one serious flaw ... there is a reason the population denisty is low. Like Australia there are huge areas of the country that are not arable, so for the most part people did not move there.
Australia is a good case in point as it is already suffering more than many western countries with drought anbd fires, yet it too is listed as least vulnerable.
By this logic Antartica should be excellent as the population densities are very low.
I realize that I have not seen the study and cannot really comment based on a newspaper report, but I am leery. The premise seems to be a very mild climate change scenario, one that is just a brief passing phase before things get much worse sometime in the next few decades. I just can't see any other way they came to this conclusion. - StevesJobs, on 07/04/2008, -2/+29This message brought to you by Citizenship and Immigration Canada.
- danmat06, on 07/04/2008, -3/+27"although Britain is also a good place to be as a warming atmosphere takes hold"
I agree, no matter what happens to the planet, it's always going to be freezing and piss down with rain here. - alpha88, on 07/04/2008, -5/+25Canada is going to change the last by climate change becuase it's already ***** cold in the winter, and ***** hot in the summer. We're used to it so we don't complain.
- FlynnRocks, on 07/04/2008, -1/+19This is obviously a joke, DO NOT MOVE HERE!
- waveman216, on 07/04/2008, -3/+19British Columbia - The new California of surfing...
- sens, on 07/04/2008, -8/+22Naw, this is ridiculous, this idea completely sucks.
Who'd want to live in Canada? It's a hell hole!
Did you know that once a month, all Canadians are required to perform road clean-up duty? Like prisoners? They make them wear the orange jumpsuits and everything, it's so degrading! So if you were ever wondering why the roadways are so clean in Canada, now you know the terrible secret behind it.
Nope, don't move to Canada, it sucks. And the people are all jerks, the women are all ugly, and the beer is terrible.
Plus, more than one in 10 Canadians are killed by moose and polar bears each year. Would you like to live with that kind of terror lurking over your shoulder?
Just stay right where you are, buddy, that's the best thing to do.
*runs away, locks his Canadian door* - inactive, on 07/04/2008, -3/+12No thanks, we're full.
- demne, on 07/04/2008, -3/+11we don't want you
- kbattack, on 07/04/2008, -3/+11no, stay away!
- replaysMike, on 07/04/2008, -1/+9It's not that we're complaining you are warming our winters for us - but you made your bed, now stay the ***** in it.
- phreak79, on 07/04/2008, -1/+8Some places on earth will undoubtably benefit from a warmer climate, but that doesn't mean the instability it may cause won't disrupt the entire globe.
- ryleyleckie, on 07/04/2008, -0/+6cause all of Canada has the same climate. right...
- justbloggin, on 07/04/2008, -0/+6While I'm already glad to be Living in Canada, I don't expect to be immune to the nightmare of climate change. We have already experienced far more erratic and extreme weather. I expect it to get worse. If we don't ALL wake up we are in big trouble in the not to distant future.
- RogueMountie, on 07/04/2008, -0/+6@Fozefy: Alberta does not have a similar climate to Ontario.
- unleashedlive, on 07/04/2008, -3/+9Yep it's great living in a city (Ottawa) where it's -40C in the winter (plus windchill) and +40C in the summer (plus humidity).
/sarcasm - Cleancut360, on 07/04/2008, -3/+9where I live in Canada it can get to -50 Celsius.....every winter is Nov-may... over half the year I'm stuck looking at snow
so global warming will unlock many new areas of our country which brings new lands to inhabit, new resources to gather
http://www.searchanddiscovery.net/documents/2006/0 ... - movieset2, on 07/04/2008, -2/+7The writer of the other article about moving to Canada on that same site couldn't tell the difference between a city (Calgary), a province (Alberta) or the country. Go spend some time looking at the populations in Vancouver, Montreal, Halifax and Yellowknife. You won't find any people wearing cowboy hats living in those cities like you do in Calgary, nor are those cities' temperatures in winter all the same. Canada doesn't have any need of your fact checkers, Britain!
- greenfyre, on 07/04/2008, -2/+7If you read the article instead of commenting on a comment you just might have made a relevant comment. Unlikely, but possible.
- WhiteMike87, on 07/04/2008, -0/+5surfin' tofino!
- Emachine, on 07/04/2008, -2/+7That's what I've been saying for years, we can use some Global Warming here. Most of the weather/climate related issues we have are in the winter. It may be the second biggest country in the world, but a significant portion of that land is useless because it's so ***** cold up there.
- Rikushix, on 07/04/2008, -0/+5He was dead serious.
*shifty eyes* - masterm1nd, on 07/04/2008, -0/+5I have absolutely no idea if you were serious or sarcastic.
- gfindlay, on 07/04/2008, -0/+5You're from Winnipeg too? I knew it without even looking at your profile.
- bundwallah, on 07/04/2008, -1/+6And so boring you have to cross into Quebec to have a good time. ;)
- CedEx, on 07/04/2008, -3/+7In Canada, in winter the people are forced to shovel snow off their driveways, only for the government to shovel snow barricades back on to the end of their driveways to prevent them from leaving. It happened to me one time! Just as I finished shoveling my driveway, and got the dogs hooked up to the sled, the plow comes rolling in and builds the snow wall.
Who wants to be stuck living in their igloo all day? Some people have places to go, things to do. I had to wait till the spring thaw before I could head out and check my fur traps.
If you're not prepared for this lifestyle, Canada isn't the place for you. - usa4eva, on 07/04/2008, -0/+4What the *****, half of North England almost got flooded, how the hell is it good to live here lol.
- stuffradio, on 07/04/2008, -0/+4@Fozefy Us in BC are getting the Winter Olympics, because we're more important than you ;)
- ryleyleckie, on 07/04/2008, -0/+4@alpha88, really so vancouver's climate is similar to winnipeg or toronto? interesting, didn't know that...
- pell, on 07/04/2008, -3/+7Please don't! Stay put!
- greenfyre, on 07/06/2008, -0/+4Oh yeah, N Europe would be totally screwed. I did not even mention what happens to your agriculture when this happens, and fisheries. But then everyone is totally screwed under climate change, just in different ways for different folks.
- lostlyrics, on 07/06/2008, -0/+4http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/gulf-stre ...
the quickest not-totally-infestinated source I found. ;)
indeed I live at 54°N with mild winters (americans at
44°N might wish to have) it's thanks to the gulfstream ...
what is "local" effect ? just europe ?
a weak comfort and flawed in maine.
remember rome is "north to" new york. - inactive, on 07/04/2008, -0/+4 We have rivers that run clear, abundant wildlife, no pollution, unspoiled nature. If everyone from all the countries show up here, they will wreck it.....oh, wait they already did, never mind, I'll go back to my teepee!
- firebat9er, on 07/04/2008, -0/+4this thing is so BS. What about the entire state of Florida being about 20 feet above sea level? No amount of money is going to be able to do anything about that when ocean levels rise.
- Blax, on 07/04/2008, -0/+4Depends where you are... Vancouver is quite moderate, but we've got tons of rain. :(
- BradMajors, on 07/04/2008, -3/+7Other studies have shown that both Canada and Russia will have substantial benefits from global warning.
- MacSuxWindozSux, on 07/05/2008, -0/+4The Americans already tried.
- Rikushix, on 07/04/2008, -1/+4Seriously, us canadians like our one person per square mile density.
- ZenMojo, on 07/05/2008, -0/+3That's it. Time to annex Canada before China invades Alaska and the European Union becomes the European Commonwealth and collapses into bickering city-states.
- minmi, on 07/04/2008, -0/+3This news maybe means that Canada likely to suffer least from global warming has done the most to cause it.
- masterm1nd, on 07/04/2008, -0/+3"if you want to be a climate change survivor in the decades ahead"? How many decades are we talking , like 20? This is meant for our yet to be born grandchildren, right? I mean seriously, kind of jumping the gun here.
- greenfyre, on 07/06/2008, -0/+3pjr, what you understand about science is a matter for conjecture, but you have yet to display any on digg.
If you doubt the man's credential you could have checked the post. For anyone who does know more than grade 8 science his name is a clue that he is what he says.
I don't agree with what he says, but even so I will hear him out. In the meantime why don't you go and ponder this for a while - if electricity can make food hot with a stove, how does it make it cold with fridge? Try not to let your head explode. - greenfyre, on 07/07/2008, -0/+3Very good pjr. Now, if CO2 be an insulator, as Joseph Fourier discovered in 1824, how can it be a coolant? as it is indeed used in some cases.
And getting to the next point, it is not merely the specific properties of electricity or CO2 or whatever that matters, it is where it is, what happens to it, what it interacts with and how, that determine what processes actually occur.
So getting back to gniessguys point, it is not impossible since he is probably referring to the collapse of the transatlantic thermohaline and cascading consequences of that. Personally I rather doubt it, but I am willing to hear him out. - ZenMojo, on 07/05/2008, -0/+3If you can magically turn stone into topsoil.
- Markpdotcom, on 07/04/2008, -0/+3You're stupid. It depends on where you're CMON-ing from!
- lostlyrics, on 07/04/2008, -1/+4"Congratulations Canada,
on preserving your National Igloo !"
http://www.rickmercer.com/ - Stormwern, on 07/04/2008, -0/+3You can always move to Sweden. Rarely over 27C/80F, and we'll get rid of the FRA next election.
- Ford_Prefect2nd, on 07/04/2008, -0/+3And those studies are?
- arkaycee, on 07/04/2008, -0/+3The Quebec commercials in English will say "Quebec is the WORST place to move to, we are dying due to global warming," but the French versions will say "if you can read this, come join us -- we rock!"
- bermudianguy, on 07/05/2008, -1/+4Rick Mercer is a genius and imo the Canadian version of Jon Stewart only funnier ..IMO.
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