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- Mewchu11, on 10/10/2007, -8/+53Man, ***** mountains. Mountains tried to kill my father!
- jcims, on 10/10/2007, -14/+51This is the fault of the environmentalist movement, period. The market for coal-derived power would be essentially gone if we had spent the last two decades building our nuclear power capacity...but no, that has been at a standstill, so we have to take what we can get.
The treatment of the locals is another matter entirely. - HarryTruman, on 10/10/2007, -11/+47I live just a few miles from quite a few of these sites in WV. It is happening in virtually uninhabited areas where nothing is affected. You wouldn't even know it was happening unless you didn't see sites like this. It disturbs certain areas around the mountains, but when they are finished it is reforested and vegetation grows back completely within a year. Please, educate yourselves on topics like the first before you decide to post.
- fadeout, on 10/10/2007, -7/+39Imho the problem is the chemicals often used in the process, especially for gold strip mining. That ***** just shouldn't be seeping into the watershed.
I can't, however, really blame miners for wanting to blow a mountain up to get to the coal rather than going thousands of feet down to die in a cave in. - buffalodan, on 10/10/2007, -5/+36Strip Mining prevents forest fires.
- mwrl, on 10/10/2007, -21/+50Well if people would accept Oil or Nuclear Power we would not need to do that. You can't have the best of both worlds people.
- BassMastr, on 10/10/2007, -2/+31I'm not real sure how much more acceptance you want for oil...pretty much addicted to it.
- twinklyJesus, on 10/10/2007, -8/+37As he sits at his computer, surfing Digg, using all that electricity generated from that coal...
idiot.
buy a wind powered laptop, then bitch. - epicstruggle, on 10/10/2007, -5/+28We wouldnt need so much coal, if we could build nuclear reactors for our power needs and have a safe storage system in Nevada. Unfortunately the enviro-wackos have brainwashed many into fearing the word nuclear. So sad.
- mstrebe, on 10/10/2007, -6/+27If God hadn't intended for us to top mountains, he wouldn't have made them out of fuel and given us all 0% financing on SUVs.
- quakerorts, on 10/10/2007, -12/+30And BushCo just expanded it and retroactively made it legal:
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/24/1321257
http://www.digg.com/environment/Bush_To_Expand_Mountaintop_Coal_Mining - Insanekingkong, on 10/10/2007, -9/+26You guys are terrorists.
Mountains are responsible for the attacks of 9/11, and they are harboring WMDs,
We need to harbor their resources so that any future attacks can be prevented. - funkyjunk3, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14Nuclear fuel, if done strictly to regulations is less harmful than burning coal. The French generate most of their electricity from nuclear power. What makes me hesitant to push for such an action here in the US is that Uranium ore is not a renewable source. Plus, the US only has so much uranium ore and the vast majority of the ore would need to be imported (which would be effected by foreign affairs like our oil imports can be). Not to mention there is only so much ore in the ground and it will become depleted.
Though its a definite, non-polluting fuel source, I think there are other technologies that are available now where money would be better spent. Geothermal energy is a good example (been used by Iceland for decades), solar, wind and tidal power are others. I simply don't think nuclear power is worth the tens of billions of dollars when there are renewable sources that would not require constantly importing fuel. - funkyjunk3, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14dugg for sheer sarcasm
- Shirleycakes, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13A little more aggressive than I would have been, but the sentiment is the same.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+11They raped my mother :(
- wintermd, on 10/10/2007, -5/+12Don't give them the facts, it is hard to accept.
- RichPowers, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Remember these pictures the next time someone says the US is the "Saudi Arabia" of coal. It's probably true, but that coal won't mine itself.
We can burn coal cleaner, maybe someone even store the emissions underground, but how the hell do you work around this type of mining, especially as we use up the easily accessible coal? - CraigJ, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9Well, I can find Detroit on Google maps too, and that is also pretty disturbing... So what?
- mrASSMAN, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7I truly believe we need to rely more on nuclear power. That's the cleanest way we can currently produce electricity.
And now fusion nuclear power is in development, which will both produce more electricity and nearly eliminate waste at the same time. China is pulling ahead of us here. - BassMastr, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8I won't point out the punctuation errors either of you made. That's awesome that you pointed out a grammatical error on the Internet.
- satanatnmtedu, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Coal will be used. These mines are small compared to the copper mines out west. Towns have been moved for the mines out here.
- yourmom, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7your mom's so fat she rapes mountains
- whatexcusenow, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Does this sort of ***** surprise anyone? I'm surprised they haven't developed an incinerator power plant that is fueled exclusively by endagered species by now.
- nreynolds, on 10/10/2007, -5/+11I thought only I could prevent forest fires...
- tomboy501, on 10/10/2007, -5/+11More info: http://www.nrdc.org/onearth/07sum/appalachia1.asp
- lilpenny7, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8That Arch Co., Yeah that's my Dad's mine and what Harry Truman commented is pretty damn true. The mine is under obligation to return the area to it's "natural state" and often times does a much better job than mother nature did in the first place. Maybe someone should have posted a before and after pic of some of the Mountain top removal jobs so we could see what a great job the miners are doing putting things back the way they belong....
Oh and I'm also not so much a fan of black lung which my Grandfather died from. Thanks. You want your coal? Don't like the idea of Mountain top removal? Get your ass down there and get it yourself.
That is all. ;-) - CurtHowland, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9Then zoom out and see how really small they are.
- 1SteveMc, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=38.078095,-81.978779&spn=0.044727,0.076218&t=k&z=14&om=1
It's pretty bad when you can easily find these sites on google earth. - happytron, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Somewhat ironically, many miners are opposed to mountaintop removal because the improved efficiency means there is less demand for labor (there are, of course, more legitimate reasons as well).
- geomon, on 10/10/2007, -6/+11Why is everyone freaking out about this? No one gives a ***** about West Virginia until a few mountain tops are ground up to extract the coal. Where was the collective outrage when the whole ***** state was bought lock-stock-and-barrel by out of state interests? Where was the Digg community when the *people* - yes, human beings - were barely scratching out a living in the great state of West Virginia because they didn't own the mineral rights under the land they owned?
Yeah, the mountain tops are being scraped away. In two generations you won't even know there was a mining operation in the area. This region is wet and soil development is fairly rapid by comparison to, say, Death Valley, where a weekend of ATV riders can destroy soils that take thousands of years to develop.
***** rocks are not ecosystems you ignorant computer weenies. They have lifespans that are in MILLIONS of years, but they are not *technically* alive.
Take that as gospel from a licensed geologist. - feckineejit, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7How is strip mining for coal progress? progress would be figuring out how to use wind, solar or any of the other many alernative sources of power instead of ruining our environment and beautiful outdoor spaces. Wait until there's nothing beautiful left and then you will be sorry and it will be too late. stupid conservative - why don't you start calling people names now?
- liquidgecka, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4How about the Kennecott copper mine in SLC, Utah?
Its a 3,000ft deep hole where a mountain used to be:
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=40.532067,-112.145348&spn=0.195965,0.227966&t=k&z=12&om=1
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c6/Bingham_mine_5-10-03.jpg/800px-Bingham_mine_5-10-03.jpg&imgrefurl=http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Bingham_mine_5-10-03.jpg&h=600&w=800&sz=123&hl=en&start=11&um=1&tbnid=UbR6b2l2soXzKM:&tbnh=107&tbnw=143&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dkennecott%2Bmine%2Butah%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN
Wikipedia page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bingham_Canyon_Mine - HarryTruman, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6You're retarded.
- satanatnmtedu, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Of course, in a couple billion years, the mountains will be different.
- SonicAD, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5What I'd like to see are some before and after comparison pictures.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Yes because burning those coal mine workers and causing energy shortages will really stick it to the man!
- Blooper4912, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5It wont load for me. Mirror:
http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:http://www.ohvec.org/galleries/mountaintop_removal/007/ - wintermd, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Ah Nuke power ????
- MasterThief117, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5I am so used to seeing "[PICS]" in the title, that I did not realize there were going to be pictures when it actually said "pictures."
- DuffyDirect, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5So you don't want miners underground dying like what happened a few weeks ago, yet you don't want us to remove the mountains systematically because it'll kill trees and river otters...
So should we just not mine? Build iPods and cars out of wheat grains? - altgeeky1, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6Most 'environmentalists' accept nuclear power. It's the profits-over-preventing-pollution mentality of corporate nuclear power that drives people batty. Dumping toxic waste IS terrorism, and who do you think is doing that?? Let's not forget that many 'environmentalists' held up by the media as opposing cleaner energy (such as nuclear) are not conservation people at all... just selfish property owners watching their resale values (aka NIMBY). They're just as likely to be conservatives.. probably more so.
- Jeeum, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4I hate mountains. Hopefully they use the mountaintops to fill in the valleys.
- addicted68098, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4I'm not an envirnmentalist, but I feel we need to take care of the world and stop polluting for our welfare and not wild life's,
- MARKGREGG, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Jimi Hendrix was standing next to a mountain..
He chopped it down with the edge of his hand. - krnldmp, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4I truly believe people just don't have any idea how much more efficiently they can live.
- DivisibleByZero, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4It is a little bit unfair to only show the pictures of the mining in-progress. They don't just uproot everything and leave it there. They plant trees and grow a new forest in the place of the old one.
Of course, it's still flat and takes a few decades for the evidence to fade away. - PsyWolf, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4shout-out from WV. isn't it awful what they are doing to our land.
- aadnk, on 10/10/2007, -4/+7How do you know he's not using a wind powered laptop?
And besides, this isn't about electricity generated by coal at all. It's about a very distributive and unnecessary (beyond being cheap) extraction method of said material that should be outlawed, like many other destructive actions toward the environment. Sure, the consumers could avoid supporting these operations by making their own power, but how realistic do you really think that is? It's expensive, difficult (not all energy sources can be utilized) and very in-efficient compared to a more centralized power distribution system due to less overhead.
Consumers simply have no choice in the matter. But, the companies that buys coal from these enterprises do! Just like the government, they are the ones in power to stop this from happening. But of course, it's much more likely to stop through the latter. - Onyxblaze, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4And zoom out some more and realize that there are a ***** of these really small sites.
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