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- Devotia, on 12/27/2008, -1/+21Why can't it be mosquitoes that are in danger of extinction?
- Propethic, on 12/27/2008, -1/+16Koalas, like pandas are evolutionary "dead ends". Really there's nothing that is harmed from their extinction other than the missing cuteness factor and maybe some eucalyptus or bamboo.
- ElHeffe, on 12/27/2008, -1/+14more like lack of habitat
- zjbird, on 12/27/2008, -0/+13It's not like we blame rising carbon levels on manatees..
- FI5HERMAN, on 12/26/2008, -6/+15Rising human levels more like it , we have to blame something other than ourselves!!!
- zjbird, on 12/27/2008, -2/+10Koalas are in danger of extinction from everything. They don't see well, they eat from trees in dangerous parts of mountains, they are hunted, killed, and sheered. I give up, buy a beanie baby to remember them if you want.
- 9bpm9, on 12/27/2008, -1/+9I didn't know Carbon was a greenhouse gas.
- graeh, on 12/27/2008, -0/+7"liberal global warming koolaid drinker" - I wonder how often that term appears in the scientific american, nature, or new scientist.
You appear to be dipping your political chocolate into the science peanut butter. - DangerCollie, on 12/27/2008, -0/+7Or cockroaches.
- spoon088, on 12/27/2008, -0/+6If either of those are in danger of extinction then we'd better be worried because those are actual survivors.
- Mujokan, on 12/27/2008, -1/+7Who knows what is going on here?
(1) Dan Lunney gives a 20 minute presentation to a conference held by the NSW Nature Conservation Council entitled "The impact of climate change on selected forest mammals in NSW".
(2) The Sydney Morning Herald picks it up and asks him for a quote, but there are no more details on the mechanism. http://www.smh.com.au/news/environment/conservatio ...
(3) The Telegraph picks it up and strips out more detail.
(4) One of the power diggers who submits about 50 Daily Mail and Telegraph articles a day gets it to the front page.
(5) Everyone gives an opinion on it though none of us know the details = ???
(6) Profit! - graeh, on 12/27/2008, -0/+6despite the misnomer of "carbon" rather than carbon dioxide - koalas are an incredibly unsuccessful species, and it takes potentially very little change in their environment to result in high mortality.
Also - I live in new south wales - the state the story quotes - junk science? I got some junk for you right here pal!
(I'm pointing at my crotch)
They're incredibly cute, but I think koalas spent a little too much time practicing being photogenic and not enough time learning how not to die at the slightest provocation. - spyd3rweb, on 12/27/2008, -1/+7The solution: Make it legal to have them as pets, the population will become uncontrollable.
- inactive, on 12/27/2008, -8/+13Junk science of course.
- cantaclaro, on 12/27/2008, -0/+5Why are they substituting carbon for CO2 in every article that has come out lately. Its pissing me off, they aren't the same thing and the supposed "science" websites continue to do it. They are just trying to distort the facts much in the same way that people call the US a democracy when we're a Constitutional Republic. The more confusion of the facts we have the less people pay attention enough to unravel and understand that confusion.
- MaxxusFlamus, on 12/27/2008, -2/+7I feel like you would be a likely candidate to die of water poisoning....
- MeatyMcBeef, on 12/27/2008, -0/+4Good point. If you have only one food source you're a screwed.
- mnocket, on 12/27/2008, -6/+10WOW. If you can't spot the junk science here, you must be blind.
- masterwit, on 12/27/2008, -0/+4Nothing kills those *****.
- sillymeganlee, on 12/27/2008, -5/+9My apartment is infested with koala bears. It's the cutest infestation ever. Way better than cockroaches. When I turn on the light, a bunch of koala bears scatter, but I don't want them to. I'm like, "Hey... Hold on fellas... Let me hold one of you, and feed you a leaf." Koala bears are so cute, why do they have to be so far away from me. We need to ship a few over, so I can hold one, and pat it on its head.
- graeh, on 12/27/2008, -0/+4I was just thinking the same thing - they're so alongside pandas as "nature's loser".
They're cute - but jesus they're unsuccessful. - dusanmal, on 12/27/2008, -1/+5It's not like we are any less Natural than the manatees. If Koalas can't survive our impact on the biosphere (or manatees), it is time for extinction. That is how the Nature works. We better adapt ourselves to the raising carbon levels so that we survive.
- CatsAreGods, on 12/27/2008, -0/+4Carbon is to carbon dioxide as iron is to iron oxide.
In other words, they're only equivalent if you're a total idiot. - barius, on 12/27/2008, -0/+3I think you missed the part where he said the koalas would be forced down from the trees to find more food. So, basically, he said exactly what you did: the koalas are going to have to eat more to make up the difference. The problem is that there are predators on the ground that will eat the koalas, so their only choice is to either starve to death or be eaten by predators.
- barius, on 12/27/2008, -0/+3Actually, despite the fact that water vapor is a green house 'gas', when it condenses to form clouds it becomes a reflective shield causing cooling. If you read up on the subject you'd know that increased water vapor will actually cause a net cooling effect because of the increased cloud cover and precipitation. This effect has actually been countering the effects of CO2 for awhile now. As CO2 causes more warming, that warming causes the oceans to evaporate faster thus creating more water vapor, which in turn forms larger clouds (and storms!) which then block more sunlight. Unfortunately, we are actually creating so much warming (not just CO2, but methane and other sources are factors) that we are out-running the worlds' natural ability to counteract that change. The mechanisms that cool the world (like increased water vapor) are simply not enough anymore and it's getting worse.
- jp12380, on 12/27/2008, -1/+4I wonder who dugg you down.
- lead2thehead, on 12/27/2008, -0/+3I think he's talking about overpopulation destroying their habitat.
- zjbird, on 12/28/2008, -0/+3I wouldn't call the ability to drive to our local grocery store for food very natural
- scootscr15, on 12/27/2008, -2/+5lol...damn them elements, I hope calcium doesn't go evil...
- rbohlig, on 12/27/2008, -0/+3haha, awesome mitch hedberg reference!!!
- Erige, on 12/27/2008, -4/+7That's ***** i personally know koalas love carbon.
- masterwit, on 12/27/2008, -0/+3Either that or he is just really ***** high right now.
- Isidore, on 12/29/2008, -0/+2@wkrausmann
I don't know if this equation for burning the simplest fossil fuel (methane) is too complex for you
CH4 + 2O2 ---> CO2 + 2H2O
note that TWO water molecules are produced for every CO2 molecule. So by your 'logic' burning fossil fuels has twice the effect you previously thought.
Unless of course you accept barius' explanation of what climatologists know. - inactive, on 12/27/2008, -0/+2Politicians...
- inactive, on 12/27/2008, -0/+2Perfect idea! I can just let them roam around in my 15 acres of eucalyptus trees.
- masterwit, on 12/27/2008, -0/+2Yea they kinda ***** up their side of the evolution...
- YummySmegma, on 12/27/2008, -2/+4Let's not let these cute animals die!
- breakingrocks, on 12/27/2008, -2/+4Hmm, it makes sense, but realistically, almost every animal on the planet is at risk from these sort of factors. My greatest objection to this article is the statement,
"Australia's most iconic and beloved marsupial, the koala..."
That's a bit too subjective and biased for a news article. Personally I think the kangaroo is a much more "iconic" Australian marsupial and maybe the wombat is more "beloved". Don't think the article is worth being dugg or buried - specialbuddy1, on 12/28/2008, -0/+2Koalas suffer from chlamydia(not joking). We should probably get them some condoms. While we are at it we can sign up the Polar Bears for swimming classes because apparently they can't swim.
- inactive, on 12/27/2008, -0/+2because they have a flexable diet. koalas eat only one thing.
- inactive, on 12/27/2008, -1/+3Giving up is pathetic.
- diceau, on 12/28/2008, -0/+2Plus the infants eat their mother's droppings for essential bacteria purposes.
As far as evolution/adaptation goes, they suck at being cool life forms. - stillrealvicz, on 12/28/2008, -0/+2Utter garbage!
- graeh, on 12/27/2008, -0/+2I agree - wombats > koalas. You can play wom with them.
- Ferretman, on 12/28/2008, -0/+2Honestly if we'd taken a few more generations to develop civilization they'd *probably* have become extinct--they simply aren't a particularly viable species.
- inactive, on 12/27/2008, -0/+2Someone needs to breed these with the carnivorous drop bear.
- wkrausmann, on 12/27/2008, -2/+4The most dangerous greenhouse gas is water vapor...so I wouldn't worry too much about CO2.
- Trent1492, on 12/27/2008, -0/+2LOL
- Mujokan, on 12/28/2008, -0/+2It is very easy to troll Australian people by deliberately using the term "koala bear". You can get a reaction no matter how many times you do it to the same person.
- inactive, on 12/27/2008, -0/+2Dont' forget that they only eat specific leaves from 25 species of trees.
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