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- scabbers, on 12/28/2007, -1/+26Holy crap, anyone else want to add their pet theory for the extinction of the dinosaurs? Come one, come all!
- bjornski, on 12/28/2007, -2/+25There were no dinosaurs, silly. Or else they'd be mentioned in the Bible!
- Mockylock, on 12/28/2007, -1/+21It's not completely about oil, but a natural gas source as well. Methane conversion doesn't take a ton of work to convert to, especially when mass produced. The problem they're going to face is storage, abundance and transfer of it.
In it's current location, if something goes wrong with the extraction process, it could be catastrophic. They're not saying that it shouldn't be done, but it should at least be funded, monitored and governed correctly. If not, an ecosystem could be turned upside down and they would be in very bad shape. They also don't know exactly what the amount of pressure would be if a heated chain reaction were to occur. Working with gasses under water isn't exactly easy to do. It could rip apart the floor, kill all the fish up to the surface and light the water surface on fire for miles. On top of this, there is no technology or know-how on what to do if that occurs. There is no way for us to be prepared or stop it at the moment.
I think they're trying to prevent a couple guys with drilling rigs to start plugging at the ocean floor without having a complete game plan and escape route in place. - DeFex, on 12/28/2007, -0/+19This is sure to wake godzilla.
- unpolloloco, on 12/28/2007, -0/+15just because i can
Judges 3:24 After he had gone, the servants came and found the doors of the upper room locked. They said, "He must be relieving himself in the inner room of the house." - aegis9975, on 12/28/2007, -0/+10Natural gas we get today is 97% methane. Natural gas being basically gaseous fossil fuel. Its not an argument against mining frozen deep-sea deposits, the danger is there is a risk of massive methane leakage if they make a mistake.
- cl0r0x70, on 12/28/2007, -0/+9Because the sky only needs to fall once.
- Chahrlie5, on 12/28/2007, -1/+10For ***** sakes, just stick to nuclear power
- bjornski, on 12/28/2007, -1/+10Because letting companies that string out damage payments for 20 years to get their case heard in a partial court to avoid paying them can be trusted SO much more.
- IphtashuFitz, on 12/28/2007, -0/+8Waitaminute... I thought that new "creationism museum" in Kentucky showed Adam & Eve cavorting among dinosaurs. If they show it in a museum then they must be right.
- deacont23, on 12/28/2007, -2/+9Funnel
Duct Tape
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Profit! - Voxxov, on 12/28/2007, -1/+8You know what else is a terrible greenhouse gas? Steam. Look it up.
- juckman, on 12/28/2007, -1/+8The end is upon us everyone! Flying spaghetti monster, I await your noodly embrace.
- doctechnical, on 12/28/2007, -0/+6And THIS is why I love Digg. An inexhaustible supply of smart-asses. :)
- Arrhenius, on 12/28/2007, -0/+6"Methane is a million times worse than oil in terms of green house gases."
If you burn it, it gives off _less_ CO2 per unit energy than does coal or even oil.
However, if it escapes into the atmosphere without being burned it is roughly 20 times more effective as a GHG than CO2. The exact factor is a little fuzzy because methane does not last as long in the atmosphere as CO2. - JasonCox, on 12/28/2007, -2/+7"Holy crap, anyone else want to add their pet theory for the extinction of the dinosaurs? Come one, come all!"
Because you touch yourself. - Godlike, on 12/28/2007, -3/+8Why are we after yet another energy source that we have to dig out of the ground? Why would anyone even consider doing this? Especially Japan, they tout all of this high technology but then they are after more dig it up and burn it away energy... sigh.
- Locnar, on 12/28/2007, -0/+4*****
- Jonjonr6, on 12/28/2007, -1/+5I'm a particularly gassy person. How do I collect my gas and sell it?
- ibclimbing10, on 12/28/2007, -0/+4Actually, methane gas is 25 times worse than CO2, according to the IPCC. The flaring of methane is much more favorable than allowing it to melt and release into the atmosphere as a GHG. This may be a hope for pushing out the "tipping point" of global warming. I'm in favor of more research... it could be a great alternative fuel that actually helps the environment.
- Meatetarian, on 12/28/2007, -0/+4I heard someone say once that God put the dinosaur fossils in the ground to "test our faith," or something to that effect.
I was too young to laugh it off then, but it sure is hilarious now. - DarkPrincess74, on 12/28/2007, -2/+6Maybe people didn't pee in biblical times because that's not in the bible either.
- mikelieman, on 12/28/2007, -0/+4Will GE *ever* clean up the PCBs from the Hudson River?
- aliengoods, on 12/28/2007, -1/+5Reminds me of the scientists who wanted to stop construction of the super collider because they said smashing 2 heavy atoms together would create a black hole and suck the earth in. Why are there so many Chicken Littles running around claiming the sky is falling?
- slvrbullet87, on 12/28/2007, -0/+3It works kinda like evolution... or how the solar system was created. Scientists create theories using reasoning evidence and peer review... it is generally understood and excepted by almost everybody that a meteor hit earth causing a huge dust cloud killing off plants to kill off dinasuars. Read up on what a fire storm is, very hard to have a global firestorm.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firestorm - toh3k, on 12/28/2007, -0/+3I'm confused. I thought that scientists had no idea how dinosaurs died? And furthermore, haven't we been mining for methane for a long time now? I thought that methane accounted for a large percentage of the current alternative fuels being used.
- 47f0, on 12/28/2007, -0/+3This is still mining a sequestered carbon resource, and releasing it into the atmosphere. It's an interesting project, but at some point, we're going to have to bite the bullet and take the next step up the energy ladder - burning carbon has served to get our technology where it is today, but it's past time to find other solutions.
- doctechnical, on 12/28/2007, -1/+4And after 14 years, a vengeful Gojia will araise, stomping Tokyo to bits.
- slvrbullet87, on 12/28/2007, -2/+5Global firestorm? There wasnt a global firestorm... there was a global dust storm. killed plants and such... no plants=no animals
- Logicexe, on 12/28/2007, -0/+2Has your anti government, pro free market ideology blinded you enough that you can't even see how sometimes government regulation or oversight is better than none?
- piesforyou, on 12/28/2007, -0/+2I think you're using the word 'researchers' a bit loosely there...
- Bengals1us, on 12/28/2007, -0/+2Dammit, I was going to make a funny Godzilla remark as well.
- inactive, on 12/28/2007, -0/+2Wrong extinction, people. The dinosaurs had already been dead for 10 million years when this happened.
- doctechnical, on 12/28/2007, -0/+2It would be like 100 times worse than 9/11. That's right - 91,100.
- sonoran, on 12/28/2007, -0/+2OH! you mean this is not THE gas that actually killed the dinosarus?
- aegis9975, on 12/28/2007, -0/+2Deep-sea methane clathrate mining has been discussed for many decades and only became financially feasible after gas went over $52/barel. The current techniques of mining are very much aware of the danger of setting of the methane clathrate deposits, US/Canada/Japan say they have proper monitoring systems to detect leakage, however, in practice, its still a question if it can be accomplished, and the stakes are very high if they fail.
- RedHerringHack, on 12/28/2007, -4/+6Wow! A million? Care to site your sources?
- JayD16, on 12/28/2007, -0/+2Don't be silly, of course there were dinosaurs...They just couldn't fit on the arc.
- floorman56, on 12/28/2007, -0/+2Slusho?
- HayString, on 12/28/2007, -1/+3Yea, that's pretty unnecessary. What about the researchers who think the Earth is hollow, they should also take that into consideration.
- Herolint, on 12/30/2007, -0/+1No kidding. Just freeze now, why don't you. Why put off the inevitable?
- Herolint, on 12/30/2007, -0/+1I think I liked the good old days when people could explore things and invent stuff without all the Nervous Nellys coming out to have a group whinge.
- kurtu5, on 12/30/2007, -0/+1Because fear is a good story.
Who cares if cosmic rays pack far far more punch than any of our super colliers can achieve? Who cares that these natural collision experiments have been going on for 4.5 BY? A FUD story is much more funner. - Urusai, on 12/28/2007, -0/+1Holy *****, it isn't methane hydrate, it's methane clathrate hydrate. Why don't they just call it "fire ice" and dumb it down to Bobby Wayne Redneck's level. They've already taken the "in-" from "inflammable" because retards can't figure out that "inflame" is the root (to be fair, "enflame" would be preferable).
- britoca, on 12/28/2007, -0/+1"Japanese engineers have found enough ``flammable ice'' to meet its gas use demands for 14 years."
wow, 14 years? don't bother, please. - norman619, on 12/28/2007, -2/+3Water vapor is much more powerful. It dwarfs both of these gases. To see how effective it is at trapping heat take a drive out to the desert then head to a place with high humidity. I love how you guys cling to the CO2 myth when it has been proven that CO2 does not drive climate change.
- j3one, on 12/28/2007, -0/+1well, that is one way of looking at it.
- lordkinbote, on 12/28/2007, -0/+1Methane hydrate may have also had a role in the Permian-Triassic mass extinction. See Clathrate gun hypothesis. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clathrate_gun_hypothe ...
- Meatetarian, on 12/28/2007, -1/+2"OH GOD IT'S LEAKING NOBODY STRIKE A MATCH"
- inactive, on 12/28/2007, -0/+1IT WASN'T THE GODDAMN DINOSAURS!
The article was referring to the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum, which occurred 10 million years after the extinction of the dinosaurs. -
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