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- nmezib, on 02/26/2009, -6/+211Just because you can't drink alcohol doesn't mean your car shouldn't, either.
I guess it's another way for them to make sure their oil reserves are still in high demand... - mikbunn, on 02/26/2009, -21/+199I love how religions have to be dragged kicking and screaming towards any scientific or social advancement.
- couldbewrong, on 02/26/2009, -10/+115Hmmm... wait a second. Get Homeland Security on the phone, I want to talk to him or her right this instant! If this scholar is correct, and I hope that he is, then perhaps it would also be a sin to crash airplanes into buildings filled with people if those airplanes were fueled with ethanol because the very act of ~riding~ in the airplane would be a sin. And so if we can modify our aeronautical industry to run our flying machines completely off of ethanol, then we may be able to avoid future terrorist attacks.
There is always the chance that there may be radical Islamic factions that ignore sinful nuances such as this and stray from the intention of Islamic law, but I say, it's worth the risk! So let's get moving. Get me Homeland Security now!! Yalla yalla!! - skyshock1, on 02/26/2009, -16/+79Know what else should be a sin? Arranging your life's goals around a fairy tale that can't be proven to be true.
- DeadlyTedly, on 02/26/2009, -1/+61Everyone is missing that he is from Saudi Arabia... of course he is opposed to growing oil alternatives.
- inactive, on 02/26/2009, -4/+52I'm muslim and even I think this is retarded.
- jbarkawi, on 02/26/2009, -5/+50You know, being a Muslim myself this is just one of the many instances by my "religious peers" that cause me to just shake my head in silence.
I am proud of my religion, I am proud of my heritage. I've spent a good deal of my personal time defending Islam and re-educating others on what it means to be a Muslim, and asshats like this keep making me start from scratch.
I sincerely doubt that God cares what we use to fuel our cars, albeit human body parts or something crazy like that. Hopefully these people will start thinking logically and in the context of the 21st century, not principles that were meant for a society which existed centuries ago. Maybe then the global perception of Islam will change; its people like this that give it a bad reputation. - inactive, on 02/26/2009, -4/+41Sin is acceptable when trying to deceive the infidels.
- Rivfader, on 02/26/2009, -2/+38Yeah that was the first thing I thought of. Another way of controlling the masses to keep away from alternate fuel sources.
- MrInfallible, on 02/26/2009, -11/+46In the 12th Century many scientific and mathematical advancements came from the islamic world, and it was much more enlightened and liberal than the christian west. Today the arab/islamic world is a ***** up place so it has a ***** up religion, Societies dictate relgion and not the other way round.
- theberlindoctor, on 02/26/2009, -12/+45Fine. Let them be primitive. Maybe they'll get left behind and fade from history.
- dofe, on 02/26/2009, -4/+37The irony is that distillation was discovered by the Islamic world.
To be fair though, this is just one Islamic scholar's view. You can find plenty of Christian nutcases too. - ProfessorRiffs, on 02/26/2009, -6/+36It's because they're afraid of the embarrassment that comes with being wrong.
- ProfessorRiffs, on 02/26/2009, -1/+29I tried to think of something else, but all I can say to this is GIVE ME A ***** BREAK.
- SFBWork, on 02/26/2009, -2/+26Jebus. With so many sins, it's easier for them to just list the stuff that's not a sin.
- jmones, on 02/26/2009, -3/+24This just in: The archbishop of Wisconsin says eating imported cheese is fast track to hell.
- Glassmentality, on 02/26/2009, -7/+27***** all that BS.
- fanboy15, on 02/26/2009, -3/+20He was obviously talking about the 9/11 attacks. Just to be clear, it's not too hard to link 'muslim' to 'terrorist' when a large majority of terrorist attacks are perpetrated by those claiming the muslim faith.
Death to Religion! - inactive, on 02/26/2009, -15/+32Why it a sin? because it doesnt blow up as well as gasoline cars from suicide bombers?
- KerrSG1, on 02/26/2009, -3/+20"You know, being a Muslim myself this is just one of the many instances by my "religious peers" that cause me to just shake my head in silence."
That's exactly the problem. You remain silent. Stand up against these 12th Century morons and maybe your religion has a chance of making it through to the end fo the 21st Century without you all being irradiated. - mycoplasma, on 02/26/2009, -1/+18Just out of curiosity, is mouthwash also a sin in Islam? What about cleaning stuff with rubbing alcohol?
- JCEEZ, on 02/26/2009, -1/+16does this include rubbing alcohol, vinegar, and mouth wash too?
- TheMidnight, on 02/26/2009, -6/+20What? Most Christians see ourselves as "stewards of the Earth" as having dominion over God's creation. We were instructed to be good stewards of everything we were given--be it money, power, gifts or the world itself. That means environmentalism is also an integral part of Christianity.
Given that, plenty of people ignore that part of the Bible, just like they pick-and-choose other parts. - Soofi, on 02/26/2009, -0/+14The Qur'an admonishes against the consumption of 'khamr', which is roughly translated as wine, but the meaning also covers all alcoholic drinks that are drunk recreationally. The Book says that while there is some good in it, the harm outweighs any good, so keep away from it. It is also seen as a work or tool of the devil to lead people astray, away from the remembrance of God and into shameful and sinful deeds.
Since the prohibition has been stated in terms of its consumption as a drink and subsequent intoxication, the use of alcohol based products which are not intended for drink are permissible, under the general Islamic principle that it is good and useful for humanity, i.e. it is completely reasonable and acceptable to use ethanol as a cleaning product since you are not drinking it. It can also be used in cosmetics and shampoo's etc. if it provides some benefit and is not generally harmful. Unfortunately, you will find many zealous muslims who misunderstand the context of some of the Prophet's teachings and construe them into a form of blanket prohibition and will be against alcohol containing cosmetics.
Mouthwash that contains a large amount of alcoholic content would be something of a grey area. While it wouldn't be considered 'haraam' (categorically forbidden), it is left to each individual to decide if they are comfortable with it.. personally, I would make a conscious effort to buy the non-alcoholic versions of mouthwash, but I wouldn't make a fuss when visiting the dentist - that's just my personal opinion.
There are exceptions to the prohibition on the consumption of alcohol for valid medical reasons, for example, when a medicine prescribed by the doctor contains some format of ethanol which may be required to make the medicine effective. The point of religious directives and prohibitions is not to cause a burden to people but to help and protect them from harm and lead them into a good path. While a few observations have revealed some mild health benefits from consuming small amounts of certain types of wine, there is also a growing body of evidence of the health problems the drink causes. Furthermore, recreational use of alcohol has led to many other human induced tragedies, aside from reckless driving accidents, the cost to human society in the form of domestic violence and adultery is far worse in my opinion. - inactive, on 02/26/2009, -2/+16They just don't like it because they want people using Middle East oil
- whatthefu, on 02/26/2009, -6/+20Take this with a grain of salt. Islamic scholars have always disagreed on a huge amount of issues. This guy is the equivalent of an evangelical who thinks we should defend Israel so Jesus can come back. Sometimes religion, no matter how you feel about it, can further scientific development. It's happened with Christianity, Judaism and Islam. I think in this age of secularism though, you're right, it probably hinders it.
- Suricou, on 02/26/2009, -0/+13We had a bit of a fuss here in the UK, when a speaker on behalf of the MCB (The big muslim lobby group for this country) said that manufacturers of crisps were insulting muslims by using ethanol as a solvent in their production - and, even worse, not declaring on the package that a few parts per million might remain in the finished product, thus tricking muslims into consuming microscopic amounts of alcohol.
- MisterRik, on 02/26/2009, -1/+13Isn't there already a percentage of ethanol in the fuel from a lot of the pumps? I seem to recall a sign on the pumps regarding this...
- dkapuchino, on 02/26/2009, -7/+19Does anyone need more proof that "Islam" isn't just the faith of muslim people, but also a political system and ideology?
Some people use the term "Islamism" to differentiate. - wonkavsn, on 02/26/2009, -1/+13I'm a sinner as well since I'm currently working with anaerobic yeast.
May Allah be merciful!! - shedtroll, on 02/26/2009, -0/+12WRONG!
The Quran allows the use of alcohol for anything but consumption. In fact it was Islamic cultures that brewed aclahol for medicinal uses as an anti-septic.
Ethanol cars are not a sin! - couldbewrong, on 02/26/2009, -0/+12Actually... I didn't link muslim to terrorist - I linked crashing airplanes into buildings full of people to Islamic radicals because errr... they are kinda famous for that, which via satire I was suggesting is a distortion of the Muslim faith which results in prejudicial attitudes towards the billions of peaceful followers of Muhammad's teachings. "He is not strong and powerful who throweth people down; but he is strong who witholdeth himself from anger."
As always,
I, couldbewrong. - sp4484, on 02/26/2009, -5/+16whats a scholor?
- thepeacemaker, on 02/26/2009, -0/+11This "Islamic scholar" represents the Wahabis (a minority sect confined mostly to Saudi Arabia) and not the overwhelming majority Sunni and Shia muslims. If it wasn't for the American people's support and patronage of the women-minority-civility-hating Saudi regime, this clown would probably be kicked out of a mosque in no time.
- Frankyfan3, on 02/26/2009, -9/+19Science flies you to the moon.
Religion flies you into buildings. - Thebruce88, on 02/26/2009, -11/+21Christianity is basically used as a political tool as well. George Bush comes to mind...
- BoneheadFarker, on 02/26/2009, -2/+12Hmmmm...someone from a country known for crude oil production has come out against ethanol? What are the odds...
- dkapuchino, on 02/26/2009, -1/+11I have access to weed from any corner store. Doesn't make it legal.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1740617.stm - BillE3, on 02/26/2009, -3/+13Tipo??
- Jeepinator, on 02/26/2009, -3/+13Think about that for just a little bit.
- whatthefu, on 02/26/2009, -0/+9How is this fear-mongering? Scholars propose different viewpoints that don't represent other scholars or any particular population. Anyone who thinks this article is another reason to criticize Islam is missing the big picture, because there are way better things for which to criticize it.
- FearlessFreep, on 02/26/2009, -1/+10"Silence!!!!
...I kill you!!!"
(Jeff Dunham) - pkon, on 02/26/2009, -2/+10Well once the oil runs out in this world and they need an alternative source of energy maybe faith and prayer can power their engines.
- inactive, on 02/26/2009, -6/+14The only way ethanol is sinful is that it keeps corn out of the mouths of hungry people.
And by "sinful," I mean wrong because it has bad consequences, not because some child molesting cult leader told his followers it was wrong. - Hetman, on 02/26/2009, -2/+10So if we add 1% alcohol to all the fuel we bring into america it would effectively stop Muslims from driving anywhere? I am not suggesting it, it just seems absurd to me.
- dkapuchino, on 02/26/2009, -1/+9I find it amazing that while most diggers will digg up a comment that says: "Just because some Islamists are terrorists / nutjobs / violent women opressers, doesn't mean all muslims are"
The same people will digg up any comment that says that religious people are mentally retarded. - inactive, on 02/26/2009, -2/+10Most Christians? your so full of ***** man.
- potatolicious, on 02/27/2009, -0/+7phosphor: You are mistaken - rubbing alcohol is just as "alcoholic" as ethanol, the difference is really non-existent. There is no "special chemical process".
I see no point in interpreting scripture so literally - I think it's pretty clear to everyone that the ban on alcohol is to discourage drunkenness - neither rubbing alcohol nor ethanol fuel do anything to encourage drinking.
Why this topic even needs real debate or "study" is in and of itself ridiculous. Human progress has been too often held back by the pseudo-religious convictions of influential people. This smacks of someone who is so unsure of the true motivations of his religion that he needs to interpret scripture word-for-word. - CanceledCzech, on 02/26/2009, -1/+8***** tool.
- lifeandtimes, on 02/26/2009, -0/+7There are more ways to make ethanol than with just corn. In fact, at least in America, to use corn as the foundation for ethanol wouldn't work...because we don't grow enough to replace gas with it. I believe one of the best ways to make ethanol is by using some kind of grass. It may be called saw grass, but I can't remember off the top of my head.
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