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Irony: Paul McCartney Flies in Hybrid Car Instead of by Ship
aol.com.au — The former Beatle has long been an outspoken advocate of environmental causes and animal rights. He is a vegetarian who won't even wear leather shoes. But now he's being criticized for having a hybrid Japanese car flown to him in Britain rather than having it sent by ship. The car in question is an 81,000 pound (US$158,000) Lexus LS 600h ...
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- pentupentropy, on 05/15/2008, -21/+3he, ummmm... isn't dead yet?
- chenshaoming08, on 05/15/2008, -17/+1I digged!
- spiggot123, on 05/15/2008, -12/+3pretty cool
- Stroggoth, on 05/15/2008, -2/+3The 600h is a big fat heavy luxury car, where the hybrid mostly improves acceleration. There is nothing environmentally friendly about that car anyway, so fly it in on whatever you want.
- choopie911, on 05/15/2008, -2/+5You don't understand the point of a hybrid, or how it works I guess.
- Y0tsuya, on 05/15/2008, -1/+5Actually I think you're the one who don't understand.
- choopie911, on 05/15/2008, -2/+5You don't understand the point of a hybrid, or how it works I guess.
- sdsoloist, on 05/15/2008, -0/+4But in improving its acceleration with the hybrid system, it is more efficient than doing the same by using a bigger engine. Compare the BMW 760li to the Lexus LS600h - they both make 438 hp, but the BMW gets 13/20 MPG while the Lexus gets 20/22.
- Stroggoth, on 05/15/2008, -2/+3The 600h is a big fat heavy luxury car, where the hybrid mostly improves acceleration. There is nothing environmentally friendly about that car anyway, so fly it in on whatever you want.
- m00n1, on 05/15/2008, -0/+69"He" is not being criticised. The article says it was very likely organised by Lexus, not by Paul. Buried for being inaccurate.
- ToadLeg, on 05/15/2008, -1/+9This article is *****. I just heard about it and it was Paul himself who had a problem with it when he found out about it. The article says:
"But environmentalists quickly pointed out that the use of a cargo plane to deliver the car to England completely offset any environmental gains resulting from the car's use."
What "environmentalists"? Paul McCartney himself? This is the same kind of anti-environmentalist crap as the "Al Gore lives in a nice house so his message is meaningless" nonsense - they're trying to spin it as if Paul did something and people are calling him out on it, to say "An environmentalist did not support environmentalism so you shouldn't either". Indeed, buried as inaccurate.- OisinT, on 05/15/2008, -0/+2That's true. I read in the newspaper yesterday that he was furious that the plane wasn't shipped by water. This lexus is being used as his limo so he didn't need it right away anyway.
- tomee, on 05/15/2008, -3/+2The LS600h consumes more fuel than for example a Nissan Micra anyway, so what the hell? The LS600h is just a damn good car, and I would want to have it delivered as quickly as possible.
- koft, on 05/15/2008, -3/+4The environmentalists need to chill out and thank Paul for sponsoring a green car.
- zombies187, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1Its really the enemies of environmentalists who love these kind of stories. They call every environmentalist who doesn't live in a tree a hypocrite. They pretend they would listen to logic if it came from someone who was consistent, but really anyone who is both green enough and consistent is labeled insane.
- ToadLeg, on 05/15/2008, -1/+9This article is *****. I just heard about it and it was Paul himself who had a problem with it when he found out about it. The article says:
- headzoo, on 05/15/2008, -1/+113I think that title needs to be rethought. I was pictuing McCartney flying through the air in a hybrid car.
- 9bpm9, on 05/15/2008, -0/+18That was the only reason I came here - flying cars.
- Dumbledorito, on 05/15/2008, -0/+7I was picturing the same thing, but in the style of the movie "Yellow Submarine."
- Protoss, on 05/15/2008, -0/+15Seriously, I had to read the description to figure out how the ***** Paul McCartney flew inside a hybrid car.
- topgigmedia, on 05/15/2008, -2/+4I envisioned him driving off a bridge...
- rrbest, on 05/15/2008, -2/+1If only.
- fxu1989, on 05/15/2008, -0/+7Instead of flying in a ship, eh ?
- bjornski, on 05/15/2008, -0/+2I didn't read it that way. But after seeing you point it out, I can't get the image out of my head.
/VROOM!
- eliburford, on 05/15/2008, -2/+20Not caring too much.
- imightbewrong, on 05/15/2008, -2/+24Why does it matter? The plane was going to fly either way and the boat was going to travel either way. He's trying to do the right thing. It's petty and stupid to criticize him for this
- Stroggoth, on 05/15/2008, -5/+4How is he trying to do the right things? By buying a 400 horsepower luxury sedan that HAPPENS to have hybrid system??
Please.- Papajohn56, on 05/15/2008, -0/+5nice job reading the article, it was a gift from lexus for his recent tour.
- choopie911, on 05/15/2008, -0/+4Read the article Stroggoth.
- cdigioia, on 05/15/2008, -1/+2It takes much more energy to transport the car via plane than via ship. I don't really care, but that's what people are pointing out, especially given the distance covered.
- alittleroy101, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1Good job, Columbo.
- Y0tsuya, on 05/15/2008, -2/+6If the plane is going to fly either way, why are airlines resorting to reduced in-flight meals to save weight? In short, more weight = more fuel consumption.
- bjornski, on 05/15/2008, -1/+5The money saved by cutting out meals far outweighs the money saved by increasing fuel consumption by reducing the weight of the food.
If you seriously think they're cutting back on food so they get better mileage, I have a bridge I'd like to sell you.- DrJack, on 05/15/2008, -0/+6About that bridge, would you be sending it by plane or by ship?
- bjornski, on 05/15/2008, -1/+2First-class mail.
- alittleroy101, on 05/15/2008, -0/+2I would prefer if you faxed it over to me right away.
- bjornski, on 05/15/2008, -0/+2My fax is broken. Will a carrier pigeon work?
- DrJack, on 05/15/2008, -0/+6About that bridge, would you be sending it by plane or by ship?
- alittleroy101, on 05/15/2008, -1/+1I am in awe of your powerful intellect.
- bjornski, on 05/15/2008, -1/+5The money saved by cutting out meals far outweighs the money saved by increasing fuel consumption by reducing the weight of the food.
- Stroggoth, on 05/15/2008, -5/+4How is he trying to do the right things? By buying a 400 horsepower luxury sedan that HAPPENS to have hybrid system??
- Archcoder, on 05/15/2008, -0/+43I wish I had a flying hybrid shipcar.
- Spartycus, on 05/15/2008, -0/+3Thats so what I thought when I read the headline!
- chrgrose, on 05/15/2008, -1/+4Pffft. Everyone knows you need a flux capacitor and 1.21 Jiggawatts to do that.
- bjornski, on 05/15/2008, -0/+5Hey Marty. Your grandma swallows.....
/sorry, first thing that came to mind. That horrible, horrible /b/ picture (which puts me in hysterics when I see it).- chrgrose, on 05/15/2008, -0/+3..GREAT SCOTT!
- bjornski, on 05/15/2008, -0/+3Found it. It wasn't grandma, but I was close
http://i32.tinypic.com/2epix5c.jpg
- bjornski, on 05/15/2008, -0/+5Hey Marty. Your grandma swallows.....
- jmpeagle, on 05/15/2008, -2/+29since when did we start replacing the word hypocrisy with irony?
Also, who owns a car that weighs 81,000 pounds.
/ignorant of Britain's currency- alperea, on 05/15/2008, -1/+4Alanis, is that you?
- littlemarcho, on 05/15/2008, -1/+2Joke 1:
15th of December, 2004.
Didn't you get the memo? I can send you a copy if you want
Joke 2:
July 4, 1776
The Americans declared independence from the Poms, and decided to remake the language on their own terms!
- vpshockwave, on 05/15/2008, -2/+5Ok. Pounds as in currency. I had a wtf moment for a second.
- bjornski, on 05/15/2008, -0/+2That would be a hell of a vehicle, huh?
It's the new H4!
- bjornski, on 05/15/2008, -0/+2That would be a hell of a vehicle, huh?
- shadowmoose, on 05/15/2008, -1/+8I don't know about you guys but whenever I get free cars I always make sure to have them shipped by boat.
- bjornski, on 05/15/2008, -0/+3Elitist. I use first-class mail.
/it's just hard to shove under the door
- bjornski, on 05/15/2008, -0/+3Elitist. I use first-class mail.
- dstz, on 05/15/2008, -11/+4What a load of *****. The only thing to care about environement is to off oneself. Because we're ***** human and we live from the environment, it's how things are, and all those bono and mc cartney etc are really good musicians but laughingly poor environmentalists. Do anyone thinks that Al Gore or Paul M Cartney have globally good carbon output (that is, negative) ? of course ***** not one second. And not wearing leather shoes, ahah, what a full load of crap that those "ecologist" try to shove down our throat.
- alittleroy101, on 05/15/2008, -1/+2Toadleq predicted this almost exact comment. Ha.
- bicyclethief, on 05/15/2008, -0/+7Why does it have to be a perfect environmentalist or nothing at all? What's wrong with doing what you can? You have to start somewhere.
- dstz, on 05/15/2008, -1/+2A rock star not wearing leather shoes is like a moronic president who stops playing golf. I was digged down when i said that about president Bush, i'm digged down when i say it about Mc Cartney. I don't care if i'm not Olberman and can't say the truth and be listened, but i very simply call ***** where i see it. You don't "start somewhere" by not wearing leather shoes or stopping playing golf when you have had such responsibilities. It's taking people for morons and buying yourself a conscience. Not that there's anything new in buying oneself an conscience, that's basically what made money for monasteries.
- dstz, on 05/15/2008, -1/+2People seem grossly unaware of mixed messages, of mercantilism, of what we eveolved monkeys are programmed to do. They seem to live in a fantasy land where going to the top doesn't involve sometime doing a whole lot of *****, and ALWAYS co-opting the global status quo. There's nothing more unnerving that those ecologists who travel the world with 100 person strong filming crew and who go all moralizing on us.
The way we human use resources is most definitional, words are worthless and people often say the contrary to what they do. It's humanity for you.- dstz, on 05/15/2008, -1/+2And when Radiohead did not go for an interview in the USA by plane, people here on Digg called ***** on them, calling them elitists. Elistist! I'm not a fan of Radiohead at all, but THEY where right on that point. The only way to be a real ecologist is mostly to NOT DO THINGS, and there nothing they could say in an interview that would offset flying through the world, because people don't listen to moralists. They just follow the long tail of economy and technology as we all do.
- dstz, on 05/15/2008, -1/+2People seem grossly unaware of mixed messages, of mercantilism, of what we eveolved monkeys are programmed to do. They seem to live in a fantasy land where going to the top doesn't involve sometime doing a whole lot of *****, and ALWAYS co-opting the global status quo. There's nothing more unnerving that those ecologists who travel the world with 100 person strong filming crew and who go all moralizing on us.
- dstz, on 05/15/2008, -1/+2A rock star not wearing leather shoes is like a moronic president who stops playing golf. I was digged down when i said that about president Bush, i'm digged down when i say it about Mc Cartney. I don't care if i'm not Olberman and can't say the truth and be listened, but i very simply call ***** where i see it. You don't "start somewhere" by not wearing leather shoes or stopping playing golf when you have had such responsibilities. It's taking people for morons and buying yourself a conscience. Not that there's anything new in buying oneself an conscience, that's basically what made money for monasteries.
- cnot3, on 05/15/2008, -0/+21He specifically requested that it be sent to him via yellow submarine!
- Mattwdj, on 05/15/2008, -1/+3dam he has a flying hybrid car. thats sick. I think a flying boat would be sicker though.
- makkaveli19, on 05/15/2008, -2/+9haha, that lexus gets less than 20mpg.
- morcheeba, on 05/15/2008, -0/+6You're right! The EPA estimates are 25 mpg city/28 mpg hwy and the NY Times got 19 mpg during their review. The 0-60 time isn't amazing -- 6 seconds. A non-hybrid BMW 330i gets better milage and matches its acceleration.. and has the same size trunk!
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FullTe ...- Papajohn56, on 05/15/2008, -1/+4automotive magazine got 30mpg hwy in their review
- centerblack, on 05/15/2008, -1/+4Who cares? The fact that it's a hybrid doesn't mean anything unless you're driving in stop/go traffic or in a city where your speed is below 25mph and you're starting and stopping a lot.
My 1984 BMW 325e got 35 mpg highway...- OisinT, on 05/15/2008, -0/+3I think that's the point. It's being used as a limo in London.
- centerblack, on 05/15/2008, -1/+4Who cares? The fact that it's a hybrid doesn't mean anything unless you're driving in stop/go traffic or in a city where your speed is below 25mph and you're starting and stopping a lot.
- ivantalboys, on 05/15/2008, -0/+2The L600 is a rival for the 7 series of BMW not the 3 series and 6 second 0-60 times is very respectable for that size of car.
- Papajohn56, on 05/15/2008, -1/+4automotive magazine got 30mpg hwy in their review
- choopie911, on 05/15/2008, -2/+4The BMW 330i still burns fuel while driving in town. A hybrid doesn't, that being the entire point of them.
- OisinT, on 05/15/2008, -0/+3Still better than anything else he could be using as a limo though.
- morcheeba, on 05/15/2008, -0/+6You're right! The EPA estimates are 25 mpg city/28 mpg hwy and the NY Times got 19 mpg during their review. The 0-60 time isn't amazing -- 6 seconds. A non-hybrid BMW 330i gets better milage and matches its acceleration.. and has the same size trunk!
- Grummond, on 05/15/2008, -0/+10Being vegan/vegetarian or environmentally aware is a personal choice.
Why should i care if Paul get's his car flown in or dragged by little elves?- bicyclethief, on 05/15/2008, -0/+8Dude, little elves leave teeny carbon footprints.
- bjornski, on 05/15/2008, -0/+2I hate wiping beer off my keyboard.......
- bicyclethief, on 05/15/2008, -0/+8Dude, little elves leave teeny carbon footprints.
- jpl7986, on 05/15/2008, -3/+4why did i click this? o.O
- chrgrose, on 05/15/2008, -2/+9All this carbon footprint accountability is a joke.
- tavisjohn, on 05/15/2008, -2/+5No the real joke is that you can purchase "Carbon Credits" to decrease your carbon footprint... (More like scam loosers who would rather thow money away than to actyally do something.
- alittleroy101, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1*losers
learn it people.
- alittleroy101, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1*losers
- tavisjohn, on 05/15/2008, -2/+5No the real joke is that you can purchase "Carbon Credits" to decrease your carbon footprint... (More like scam loosers who would rather thow money away than to actyally do something.
- ThaDRD, on 05/15/2008, -3/+14"He is a vegetarian who won't even wear leather shoes." You know how much leather is in a Lexus? lol
- choopie911, on 05/15/2008, -0/+116?
- Twenty, on 05/15/2008, -0/+3Read the ***** article. It's not great but there is information there. *****.
- MassHysteria, on 05/15/2008, -0/+3You know how many animals are killed by vehicles each yeah? I think he should just start walking.
- MassHysteria, on 05/15/2008, -0/+2Year*
- rentmitchum, on 05/15/2008, -0/+8Each celebrity on the planet is born under a star sign with some future reporter. That reporter will monitor every single thing that celebrity does for life until they do one criticizable thing and then exploit it. Nature is amazing.
- W00DR0W, on 05/15/2008, -2/+8God these people need to stop bitching over every little thing. If it came by ship they'd have have bitched about how much pollution that caused too.
Why doesn't he send it in via banana boat so he can people who probably contribute less him, to the cause.- W00DR0W, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1The edit cut me off, I meant to put in appease
- GorfTron, on 05/15/2008, -0/+12Just let it be.
- blueomega137, on 05/15/2008, -0/+6I guess he just wants to drive his car. Beep beep'm beep beep, yeah?
- GorfTron, on 05/15/2008, -0/+4Down the long and winding road... Whameeeee!!!
- blueomega137, on 05/15/2008, -0/+3I am the Walrus... wait that doesnt work.
- GorfTron, on 05/15/2008, -0/+4Down the long and winding road... Whameeeee!!!
- PaulRay, on 05/15/2008, -0/+2You're, speaking words of wisdom.
- blueomega137, on 05/15/2008, -0/+6I guess he just wants to drive his car. Beep beep'm beep beep, yeah?
- damawa42, on 05/15/2008, -1/+12Douchebag article and douchebag poster:
"It was not clear if McCartney knew the vehicle would be sent to him via air freight rather than by ship. Rumbold said it seems likely the singer was an innocent victim of a mistake made by Lexus executives."
There ya go. - saahmed, on 05/15/2008, -1/+6He was actually upset that it was flown in. He was told that it would come in by ship. Regardless, this ***** is nonsense.
- 3tcp, on 05/15/2008, -3/+2If it's such a big deal to him then why'd he buy a car manufactured on the other side of the world in the first place? There make cars in europe too
- OisinT, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1In order to get this specific RHD model it had to be ordered from Japan. Toyota's rules I guess.
- bokep, on 05/15/2008, -2/+2Dude just wants his hybrid. Leave him alone.
- enkafan, on 05/15/2008, -0/+7Every article I've read so far has indicated that Paul McCartney has been "horrified" that they did this. It looks like this is the fault of Lexus.
- tobisapphos, on 05/15/2008, -3/+7Vegans who wear faux leather and fur and claim to be green irritate me. A lot of the stuff used to make faux leather and fur use a lot of harmful synthetic petroleum based products like PVC and polyester. It is more environmentally friendly to wear second hand real leather or natural fabrics such as hemp and cotton.
- centerblack, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1People have different reasons for being vegan. Many of them are just concerned with animal rights, not necessarily their impact on the environment.
That said, I LOVE HAMBURGERS! - bxblox, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1Would they be happy if I had a farm that raised cows for leather but only used them after they died of "natural causes".
- centerblack, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1People have different reasons for being vegan. Many of them are just concerned with animal rights, not necessarily their impact on the environment.
- Vector713, on 05/15/2008, -6/+581,000 lb. car you say? I didn't know lexus made tour busses.
I smell a typo. or 10.- Papajohn56, on 05/15/2008, -0/+5you're a ***** moron
- bobburn, on 05/15/2008, -2/+1limo..
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........................................_..........._,-%.......`- alittleroy101, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1entirely appropriate.
- OisinT, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1I think he'll get it if he thinks about it a little longer. rofl
- fezzasus, on 05/15/2008, -2/+2No, irony is that the batteries for hybrid cars have a much greater environmental impact than current fossil fuel cars.
- blueomega137, on 05/15/2008, -0/+4It's better than flying over a Ford GT isnt it?!
- PaulRay, on 05/15/2008, -1/+2NOTHING is better than that. Just ask Jeremy Clarkson.
- OisinT, on 05/15/2008, -0/+2Clarkson said his Ford GT was a piece of *****.
- blueomega137, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1you got me there.
- PaulRay, on 05/15/2008, -1/+2NOTHING is better than that. Just ask Jeremy Clarkson.
- pygmy, on 05/15/2008, -2/+2RIDE A BICYCLE BEATLE
- PaulRay, on 05/15/2008, -0/+2What is a BICYCLE BEATLE and where can I get one?
- tavisjohn, on 05/15/2008, -0/+2If he wanted to really help the environment, screw the Hybrid car and get a Honda!
We have 2 Handa's (Non-Hybrid) and both of them get about 35 mpg. - choopie911, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1I can't figure out why all world transport hasn't upgraded to catapault and trebuchet yet. They take minimal resources to build as well as very little space, and can send items great distances with zero emissions. It's just common sense people.
- dwninjungleland, on 05/15/2008, -1/+6BURIED for AOL news. The LEAST reliable, MOST sensationalist news source out there.
- mizarone, on 05/15/2008, -0/+3You mean there is a news source more sensationalist that Fox News?!
- PaulRay, on 05/15/2008, -0/+2Is that even physically possible?
- mizarone, on 05/15/2008, -0/+3You mean there is a news source more sensationalist that Fox News?!
- PresidentSoup, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1Who cares? How is this news?
- bobburn, on 05/15/2008, -1/+3Buried for inaccuracy. McCartney did not have it flown in, Lexus did. McCartney had no prior knowledge and was very angry when he found out (see: http://www.gulfnews.com/world/United_Kingdom/10213 ... and http://www.smh.com.au/news/people/paul-mccartney-s ... )
- fdiskit, on 05/15/2008, -0/+2The real question is - with all that money going into producing what, 300 of these tops, they couldn't make it a DIESEL/WVO hybrid is beyond me.
- sr71atomica, on 05/15/2008, -2/+0Macca should be grateful that Toyota expedited his car to him. Heaven knows, if some luxury automaker like Toyota (the parent of Lexus) were to offer me a car, hybrid or otherwise, then ship that via air, I would be grateful, and then say thank you. There is an old expression that comes to mind: Never look a gift horse in the mouth.
Sir Paul could certainly stand to appreciate that phrase. After all, considering the promotion he had done for that vehicle, why WOULDN'T Toyota go to that extra expense?
Then again maybe Macca is sticking to his plebean roots, and trying to be more of a commoner in this case. Mel Gibson had a great corollary, as Porter in the movie, Payback: Always be grateful for what you get.
So if Sir Paul is upset about this, maybe it is his shock, or at least surprise, showing through. Don't worry Paul, there are PLENTY of trees to absorb the extra carbon dioxide generated by shipping that vehicle via air. Just enjoy your new ride and be grateful someone cares enough about you to ship something like that in appreciation for your efforts. - mlagana, on 05/15/2008, -0/+2wow news week a little slow? /***** article
- StephenCIreland, on 05/15/2008, -0/+15 Litre + Hybrid Engine, hmmmm something doesnt seem particularly friendly there, but i will admit, the hybrid makes it a sweet deal to drive, i drive a 400h and theres no delay in takeoff from 0mph , it just goes.
- rheaume, on 05/15/2008, -2/+2What a ***** loser hes just lkie al goar
oh wait he was horrified
/Distracted by the big titted indian chick flirting with me at the top right - charlietuna, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1I believe it's a rather famous quote from Fitzgerald: "The rich are different from you and me."
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