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- hehe, on 10/12/2007, -3/+69I would think there's a better place to link to than Slashdot.
- dirtyhipster, on 10/12/2007, -4/+54"Words, words, words. This is Digg.. the ADD center of the universe. Pics man, pics."
Of what? the ocean? - laplacian, on 10/12/2007, -2/+48Wow what an irresponsible article. Sea level changes from global warming are marked in by a few centimeters per century. Islands sink for geological reasons which have nothing to do with climate change. Makes you wonder if this global warming fear isnt out of control.
- BalsamLane, on 10/12/2007, -14/+47Words, words, words. This is Digg.. the ADD center of the universe. Pics man, pics.
- pAiNiNtHeAsS, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23Here's the real article.
http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/article2099971.ece - Spikito, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14permenantly under water? your certain of that? i mean, 20 years ago, im betting the status of that island was "permanantly above water". if not, i doubt anyone would have moved there.
Just a thought. - pendy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13this was on digg a while ago, and it was a better link than slashdot. how lazy can you get?
- Phatt138, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12The fact of the matter is that - while we as sentient beings should be doing all we can to diminish our environmental footprint - there's a difference between the static earth that we like to imagine and the ever-changing planet that is the reality. As laplacian noted, there's positively no way that this is due to human-borne global warming. If it was, all of the earth's current beaches would be underwater (or experiencing notable retreat not accounted for by erosion) as well.
FTA: '"it is only a matter of some years" before it is swallowed up too. Dr Hazra says there are now a dozen "vanishing islands" in India's part of the delta."'
Yet Miami Beach is still flooded with drunken, sun-scorched tourists.
We need plausible deniability as far as climate change goes, but if we want the earth to 'function naturally,' we have to understand that its natural state is one of dynamic cycles. Our concerns about pollution should necessarily be short-term - minimizing the direct damage done to air, water, and land that would make otherwise pristine environments uninhabitable for either their indigenous species or our own. Realizing these goals will also ensure our long-term uninvolvement with cyclic climate change.
- jord, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13And why are we digging an article that is not only false.. but is on slashdot....
- Calypsoaf, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Nobody is denying Global Warming, what is under debate right now is wether or not the human race is responsable, or this is just part of the natural cycle of the Earths own ecosystem.
- pwallroth, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11And by "permanently underwater" you probably mean: "I have no ***** clue how long it will remain this way, but as of now its gona be under water for a little bit, ps im a huge douche"
- shirosamurai, on 10/12/2007, -9/+14z23rdhsuan, does your resume say 'Ph.D in Climatology'?
Didn't think so. - Geekbeard, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Ocean levels have been changing for thousands upon thousands of years, probably since the start of 'em. Franchthi Cave, god damn it!
Anyway, I think you are unwisely confounding denial of global warming (which is ridiculous since it is a fact that the world is, generally, warming) and the anthropocentric view of it's cause. - mntbikeracer1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Oh are humans responsible for all erosion too. Give me a break people. Yes we all know that Earth's temperatures are changing, I don't think anyone in their right mind is arguing that point. The only debate is whether it is a problem made by man kind. And believe me hack job "evidence" such as this is not getting anyone closer to any truth.
- whoaohh, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8islands go underwater all the time from erosion
- wgridley, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Thats not due to rising sea levels, thats the result of erosion and volcanic activity. Just like island can pop up in years, they can sink as well. If it were due to rising sea levels, that particular island wouldnt be the only thing submerged...
- jihadforwhat, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8How about a documentary exposing the scientists-for-hire who run the global warming hysteria movement ?
- HappyScrappy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Buried as inaccurate AGAIN. The ocean rises haven't been large enough for any island that was previously safe to inhabit to submerge..yet.
This was apparently due to shifting currents and silt in a river delta. - Saltminer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Subsidence. These islands are near a large river delta. Huge amounts of soil, sand, and rock is deposited by rivers as they erode land upstream. When there is less erosion up-stream, or the deltas are tampered with (canals, agriculture), or river deltas move, these lands will subside. And other lands may form. Look at the Mississippi Delta in Lousiana. The river has been tamed (somewhat) and the wetlands often drained by canals. They have been loosing thousands of acres of islands every year for the last 50 years.
- oskite, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3There's a button for that.
- DEaDIRiS, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Right....., because those EVIL Viking PR firms were making millions driving traffic to Greenland.
- slantyeyed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3islands come and go all the time, hell, US beaches erode every day . . . no digg for idiocy
- krinthekuz, on 09/16/2008, -6/+9is global warming real? yes
is global warming dangerous? yes
does the bush admin give even half a damn about global warming? no
is this article incorrectly attributing completely natural phenomena to global warming? yes
the truth is that islands sink or erode away all the time, especially these islands, as they're on a river delta.
no digg, especially for linking to /. - pagemap, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Sorry, no digg. I can't bring myself to digg an article linking to slashdot. Interesting information, however.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3linked to slashdot?? how dare you!!
- brentalex, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Wow this is flying around the web, and it only happened 22 years ago!
http://cities.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=207343 - Junkyarddawg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The sea level rise over the last 100 years to today, is 10cm (4"). The island can't have been very mountaneous.
And it wasn't. It was located in an estuary, and it is normal for islands in estuaries to change, appear and disappear, especially after the river feeding sediment to the delta has been dammed (meaning sediment is deposited in the dam, not in the delta - this is also what's happened in Mississippi).
Wikipedia puts it like this: "Lohachara Island was an islet on the Sundarban river delta in the Sundarban National Park, located near the Indian state of West Bengal. The islet is one of a dozen "vanishing islands" in India's part of the delta. Although other islands have disappeared due to various man-made construction projects, Lohachara was the first inhabited island to disappear due to naturally-occurring ocean and river forces. There are multiple causes[1] of the disappearances of islands in the delta, including sea-level rise, coastal erosion, cyclones, and coastal flooding. The loss of land has created thousands of refugees in the area." - Spikito, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2yeah, i live in north east texas, longview actually, prety far inland, were only 300 feet up. a 10 foot change would have most of the south underwater. you cant have rising ocean levels in certain areas of the world, it all goes up at once.
- Glidedon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Ain't the first time either.
- DaveCT, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Atlantis is real!
- arpad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If you go to where there are rain forests in North America you can spend as much time as you'd like. They're pretty extensive. Here's the hint you need: Olympic peninsula.
You're welcome. - iumentum, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This is more a case of erosion of land due to the delta than rising sea levels, due to global warming.
- blueigloo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Not if they only copied it directly from the front page of slashdot into digg... *sigh*
- WolfDV, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2its almost time for WaterWorld . . I better stockpile cigarettes and paper.
- larsensaid, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3dugg down for linking to slashdot. link to the real article you lazy *****.
- rowanjl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Rising oceans or sinking ocean floors?
- sheriffbob, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3How about sue China, Russia, or India
- sheriffbob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Earling morning laugh
- Railer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You all know you are not really talking about real islands right? These are islands in a river delta? They appear and disappear all the time.
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&z=13&ll=21.903871,88.102798&spn=0.070397,0.122051&om=1 - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+7http://www.climatecrisis.net
- Cowboy5995, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"its almost time for WaterWorld . . I better stockpile cigarettes and paper."
Dont even joke about that.
This is just like the Lost City of Atlanta from futurama. I can only hope their was a coke factory on the island so the residents can evolve into mer people over night. Hail Atlanta. - 1911wolf, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5Earth's landscape is constantly changing and nothing will remain the same forever. Living in CA this is hard to get people to understand as they're too caught up in the Global Warming cult, and believe everything on Earth should never, ever change unless it was caused by the dirty apeman. Yes, global warming is very real, it's natural. This is not to say that we shouldn't care, we should and we should be responsible to conserve and reduce pollution as much as humanly possible. But to take the cowards way out and blame the inevitable on the apeman is moronic.
Greenland was once green. I look forward to seeing it green once again, like the Vikings once did. - SkittlesUSA, on 10/12/2007, -8/+9The global warming theory is just that- a THEORY; with many FACTS that disprove it.
The Earth is warming, but it is natural, not catastrophic, and not human induced. - Twango, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Clearly it's time for an Ostrich mashup.
- vroom101, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Picture from space ofTabiteuea and Onotoa, two islands/atolls in the Republic of Kiribati: http://chamorrobible.org/gpw/gpw-20061231.htm
Birth of an Island: http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/12/31/2017216 - arpad, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Oh go take a pill.
The video, from CBC let it be noted - not exactly a source that adheres to the highest standards of journalistic integrity - is so full of slant, misrepresentation, calculated omission, inference and personal attacks that the only people who'll give it much credence are either ignorant of the facts or committed to a belief system based on reportage every bit as slanted as "The Denial Machine".
And no, I'm not a shill. Would that I were. I'd love to get paid for hammering you enviro-bluenoses but Steve Milloy seems to have the market pretty well sewed up.
Oh, and Berkana, why don't you address the issue on the table: whether the article in UK Guardian is or isn't slanted.
Delta islands have formed, eroded, appeared and disappeared as part of the dynamics of rivers since water's flowed on the planet, and long before us humans could work our evil on the delicate environment. That means your assertion of human involvement needs some support, support which is more substantive then repetition or personal attacks regardless of the inconvenience that entails.
As a starting point, here's a tidal table for the mouth of the Pusur River, right in the center of the Sunderbans:
http://www.mobilegeographics.com:81/locations/5180.html
Notice the tidal range? Over 2 meters. You think that might have something to do with islands made of mud washing away? - trax4321, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Quote "The obliteration of Lohachara island, in India's part of the Sundarbans where the Ganges and the Brahmaputra rivers empty into the Bay of Bengal"
Just located where this Island is meant to be on Google Earth (21°56'59" N, 89°11'0" E) from what I can see it looks like a mangrove forest, no cities, no town and no island. And I find it hard to believe that there could ever could have been any island with a population of 10,000 in this area. - Twango, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1But there's more informed commentary on Slashdot
(*ducks*) - mgorbsky, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Maybe it sank because the volcano spit Joe back out. Now the orange soda exports are going to drop.
- Twango, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1In 2005 the world's scientists collectively agreed that global warming is real, and called for "prompt action". This includes the AAAS (publisher of 'Science') and the US National Academy. Anyone still in denial about warming is ignoring the world's scientific community.
Of course you're free to choose between informed and uninformed opinion. -
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