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- Catspaw, on 07/09/2008, -2/+13The idea for the global warming hoax appears to have emerged from the Iron Mountain Report. This was authored by a group of intellectual elitists in 1966 who were asked to devise methods by which a government could become more powerful, [1]. War, they wrote, would be impossible under a single, world government, so other methods for controlling populations would be required. A new enemy that posed a threat to life on earth was needed.
After considering a number of possibilities, including a staged space-alien invasion, which they decided was too far-fetched, they concluded that the environmental pollution model was the one most likely to succeed. This model, they wrote, could be related to observable conditions like pollution and predictions could be made showing end-of-earth scenarios. Accuracy was not important – what mattered was that it was believable, as the intent was to frighten, not to inform. Sound familiar?
The group concluded that the benefits of this model were huge for the elite, as it could be used to justify expansive and authoritarian government, as well as impoverish citizens, thereby greatly widening the gap between the leaders and followers.
[1] Iron Mountain Report, Ch 7.5 of The Police State Road Map at www.policestateplanning.com - kavutu, on 07/09/2008, -3/+10DUH!! Nice waste of texpayers money. The whole global warming scare is a con job to make certain people rich---Does the name AL Gore ring a bell??
- inactive, on 07/09/2008, -1/+7Either you accept the Al Gore sanctified version of how climate change occurs or you are an evil global warming "denier". There can be no middle ground on these matters! /sarc
- inactive, on 07/09/2008, -2/+7What do you know about science loco greengo?
- CreateSomeNoise, on 07/08/2008, -6/+11http://www.globalwarming.com/blog has ALL of the facts about the greatest lie (global warming) ever put upon the masses since WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION.
- inactive, on 07/09/2008, -1/+6Oh Hell "Global Warming" is nothing more than a fabrication being used by the elite to control us.
- inactive, on 07/09/2008, -0/+5"deniers" interesting word choice.
- Cryptocracy, on 08/17/2008, -1/+6The promoters of the CO2 fraud should be taxed heavily for breathing. (or even opening their gaping maws)
- MrFunStuff, on 07/09/2008, -3/+7Nobody's denying the earth is heating up, IT IS. But the reason why is till unclear but what is clear is OC2 is probably not the culprit.
- jesusfish, on 07/09/2008, -2/+4Of course the new findings are always worse than the previous ones. That's how scare tactics work.
- greenfyre, on 07/08/2008, -3/+5Why would he do that? His link takes you to some links that get you to real, accurate information. The link you give is just an incoherent paranoid rant by some whacko, completely devoid of science or sense.
I am sure he must have meant the one he posted. - beauley, on 07/09/2008, -1/+3The news heard everywhere these days mentions "Global Warming", sometimes more than once per telecast. Our top environmental scientists are in agreement that the earth is experiencing a warming period. Are they forgetting a key point ?
http://www.quazen.com/Science/Environment/Is-Globa ...
Is Global Warming, or Global Pollution the Issue? - monoa, on 07/09/2008, -2/+3You just know the depth of intellect, honesty and reality that will be available at that sideshow blog with all of the SHOUTING in every post, and language such as "environmentalist whackos".
Next! - inactive, on 07/09/2008, -2/+3I guess you meant CO2
- sultanica, on 07/14/2008, -0/+1No doubt, paid for by the industries that pollute the planet.
- greenfyre, on 07/09/2008, -2/+2So how did that little paranoid conspiracy theory make the actual sciene disappear?
http://climate.jpl.nasa.gov/evidence/
http://royalsociety.org/landing.asp?id=1278
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007 ...
http://www.grida.no/climate/ipcc_tar/wg1/index.htm
http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/ar4-syr.htm
http://www.ghgonline.org/pubarchive.htm - greenfyre, on 07/09/2008, -2/+1I reserve 'skeptic' for those who thoughtfully maintain doubt based on some small evidence or logic that, though meagre, is nonetheless reality based.
Hence a different term is needed for the hysteric paranoids who rant, distort, and lie, and who have no evidence or rational logic for their position but persist in denying the existence of the overwhelming scientific evidence.
Denier fit's like a glove I would have thought, but do you have other suggestions? - greenfyre, on 07/09/2008, -3/+1No, he got it right. - "OC2" is not the culprit, whereas CO2 definitely is
http://climate.jpl.nasa.gov/evidence/
http://royalsociety.org/landing.asp?id=1278
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007 ...
http://www.grida.no/climate/ipcc_tar/wg1/index.htm
http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/ar4-syr.htm
http://www.ghgonline.org/pubarchive.htm - monoa, on 07/09/2008, -6/+4FTA title: "Latest Scientific Studies Refute..."
It's dated 30 July 2007. It's now July 2008 (for those not keeping up). Not really the 'latest', then.
Also, the article is associated with Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.), a notorious wingnut denier who never lets science and reality get in the way of his campaign to deny the global scientific consensus of AGW. Read more about this delusional, neocon, oil-funded tool at http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/9/25/17124/9 ...
For anyone paying attention to the reality and science of anthropogenic climate change, each new data set, each new analysis, each refinement of the results brings revised findings and predictions that are almost always worse than the previous ones.
Of course, the denier loons will, as usual, just stick their fingers in their ears a little deeper and continue shouting that it's not happening. - FriskDown, on 07/08/2008, -5/+3I think that the link he meant to post was this one:
http://www.discussglobalwarming.com/blog/ - monoa, on 07/09/2008, -5/+2Phew! Lucky MrFunStuff cleared up the confusion, because for a while there I was believing every national science academy of every industrialized country on the planet who confirm that global warming is due to man-made CO2. Now that MrFunStuff tells us they're all wrong, we can just ignore all those climate scientists and the mountain of evidence and data they have provided.
P.S. Given the mouth-breathing population that litter AGW threads, I should probably point out that the previous paragraph is heavy sarcasm. - greenfyre, on 07/09/2008, -4/+1No, they're not. They understand the science of both perfectly well and have made their priorities. Maybe you should look at why they did that and see if you can understand the reasoning.
- greenfyre, on 07/09/2008, -5/+1What is about Gore that gets the Deniers so excited? Is it some kind of Oedipal 'jealous of father figure' complex? or some sort of repressed homoerotic obsession? It's definitely creepy.
- greenfyre, on 07/09/2008, -6/+2Stop wasting everyone's time with the ***** as hominem attacks and just show how the science is wrong. Here it is
http://climate.jpl.nasa.gov/evidence/
http://royalsociety.org/landing.asp?id=1278
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007 ...
http://www.grida.no/climate/ipcc_tar/wg1/index.htm
http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/ar4-syr.htm
http://www.ghgonline.org/pubarchive.htm - wonderchemist, on 07/09/2008, -8/+3The global warming deniers will still be denying even if McMurdo becomes the spring break destination of choice.

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