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- greenfyre, on 11/25/2008, -2/+15And what is at my links? Do you have the slightest notion? You just repost the same irrelevant spam that you did in other links without any reference to what I link, so how is that relevant?
And I already debunked most of this dreck when you posted it at
http://digg.com/general_sciences/We_must_plan_a_su ...
(and several more people have contributed as well).
but since you're here, I'll debunk the rest:
You cite 10 yr old articles when all of the science since disagrees:
http://debunking.pbwiki.com/Sunspots-and-Solar-Myt ...
THe silly abd site debunked here
debunked http://digg.com/environment/Global_Warming_Has_Off ...
Myth: climate change on other planets proves the same thing is happening on earth
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=192
http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/12/17/222712 ...
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007 ...
3 yr old article on Antarctica ... try this year:
Antarctic Warming Shows "Human Fingerprints" http://www.globalwarmingisreal.com/blog/2008/11/14 ...
Floods under Antarctic ice speed glaciers into sea: study http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM ...
Antarctica hit by climate change http://www.nature.com/news/2008/081030/full/news.2 ...
All of them corroborate temperature measurements showing that the western Antarctic Peninsula-now known to insiders as the Banana Belt-is warming up faster than anyplace else on earth. http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=polar-ice-shel ...
"The breakup is the latest of seven major Antarctic ice-shelf collapses in the past 30 years, after some 400 years of relative stability. They include the detachment of a 1,300-square-mile chunk from the Larsen B ice shelf, the disintegration of giant ice shelves in the Prince Gustav Channel and the Larsen Inlet, and the disappearance of ice shelves known as Jones, Larsen A, Muller and Wordie. All of them corroborate temperature measurements showing that the western Antarctic Peninsula-now known to insiders as the Banana Belt-is warming up faster than anyplace else on earth."
REPEAT the western Antarctic Peninsula ... is warming up faster than anyplace else on earth.
NASA Satellites Watch Polar Ice Shelf Break into Crushed Ice http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=polar-ice-shel ...
'Antarctic ice is growing' http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/11/4/211834/ ...
Antarctic Ice Shelf Disintegration Underscores a Warming World http://nsidc.org/news/press/20080325_Wilkins.html
Instead of spending your time posting this spam in every thread, get on a search engine and look at current science. - greenfyre, on 11/25/2008, -5/+18No, the bad news is that this bilge is debunked on your original post:
http://digg.com/politics/Gore_on_Global_Warming_I_ ...
Manure is the only ***** that is best spread around. Denier dreck should be flushed immediately. - FindTheGreen, on 11/24/2008, -7/+15Just another negative effect of 'global warming'. Regardless of the actual effect human activities have on global warming trends, it is certainly a real issue that needs attention.
- RealDealRick, on 11/26/2008, -8/+16Let's just face it. We're going to be damaging this planet until it's too late. Too many people are playing the "Out of sight, out of mind" game.
- trisweb, on 11/26/2008, -2/+7"Sorry, but the Earth is not fragile."
Nope, but we are! Other species even more so. - greenfyre, on 11/24/2008, -12/+17Pls go back to making up stories about Jack Ruby, Roswell NM and Princess Diana.
Climate science is real
http://debunking.pbwiki.com/Some-of-the-climate-ch ...
and paranoid claims to the contrary are simply delusional
http://greenfyre.wordpress.com/2008/10/11/denier-c ... - Ne007, on 11/26/2008, -2/+7But it's cold as ***** outside and it feels like winter when it's not winter for another month....
- greenfyre, on 11/25/2008, -6/+10The joke is diggers who think they can refute science with a dismissive comment.
Talk about the science
http://debunking.pbwiki.com/Some-of-the-climate-ch ...
and spare us the uniformed spam.
Thank you - slapthemonkey, on 11/26/2008, -0/+4It is necessary to take these views seriously. Global warming is a real problem
- greenfyre, on 11/25/2008, -7/+10For pitys sake use a search engine before posting, just to check if you'e about to spout nonsense:
Sunspots and Solar Myth http://debunking.pbwiki.com/Sunspots-and-Solar-Myt ... - wholesum, on 11/27/2008, -0/+3care to explain how could the real BIG MONEY boys be into global warming if it makes doing business as usual more expensive?
- Countess666, on 11/26/2008, -0/+3so... how much did the cool and oil industries pay you to collect and post this bunch of blatent lie's half-truths, twisting of facts, and statements designed to take advantige of people's lack of scientific understanding.
fact : co2 traps heat. (tested in sealed greenhouses)
fact : the carbon we are now burning hasnt been in circulation sinds the time of the dinosaurs. and back then most of that carbon was safely 'trapped' in plant matter in the thick forests and swaps that covered the world. we don't have room for that much plant matter anymore. there has never, ever been this much co2 in the athmosfer.
fact : glaciers that have been around for millions of years have all but disappear. only possible cause, warmer temperatures. the little ice ages was 300 years ago, any extra glacial deposits have disappearance atleast 200 years ago.
fact : co2 fluctuations have been minor up untill the industrial age where concentrations are not 50% higher then they have ever been.
you mention water... there is no more of less water on the earth then when the dinosaurs walked the world. we need that amount of water in the air to keep our climate stable and on a livable temperature.
you mention places getting warmer and cooler. ocean currents are slowing down because of arctic sea-ice melting. europe will get colder, the Gulf of Mexico will stay warmer... both chances we do not need.
Europe use to be warmer... because the ocean current was stronger then - Math, on 11/26/2008, -2/+5We're quite a bit warmer now than it was in the medieval warming period. There's been farming in Greenland for a while now (As there has been for centuries in other countries of a similar latitude) and it is still getting warmer.
The world's at a pretty good temperature now, but I'd definitely be worried by another 5 degree increase. That's a pretty drastic change, especially in a short period of time. - BlackApple, on 11/26/2008, -1/+4FACT: gibbwake is a tool
- greenfyre, on 11/26/2008, -0/+3NO, just fact lover
http://debunking.pbwiki.com/Sunspots-and-Solar-Myt ... - lostlyrics, on 12/12/2008, -0/+2ICYHELL was certainly not an advertisable
baptizing although true. :p Yes, there was a
stripe of green indeed - albeit in summer only.
Intended to attract more settlers to follow,
a nice (I did not lie !) name was chosen instead
by famous & smart Eirikr Rauthi ... "precaution"
which was not leading to the desired success.
They simply got too few people. - christinme, on 11/26/2008, -7/+9This is dumb. Science always seems to make outrageous claims and then later will make new claims to contradict the previous claims and thus making an donkey of itself and shrugging off what it originally said. History will show this to be true.
- SkittlesUSA, on 11/26/2008, -6/+8Well when the Earth used to be so warm GREENLAND was farmable.
It is odd that, historically, the warmest periods have provided the best harvests and the coolest periods have been the most destructive.
See: Medieval Warming Period (even grapes could be grown in northern England). - TommyTikal, on 11/25/2008, -7/+9Congrats on proving how little research you've actually done on the matter.
- wunksta, on 11/26/2008, -1/+3i love when people say that they have important information to share that everyone needs to know, but that they are charging for the information. if you really cared you wouldnt be charging for it.
thanks for advertising your book on digg, thats great but i think ill pass and read up on articles that are actually presented to the general public to review free of charge. i sincerely doubt that you are somehow privy to information or data that isnt available to anyone else - SeniorScrapper, on 11/24/2008, -7/+9Soils include many forms of carbon, including organic carbon from and vegetation and black carbon from the burning of organic matter.
- RealDealRick, on 11/26/2008, -5/+7What a retard.
- wunksta, on 11/26/2008, -0/+2ecosystems are incredibly fragile while the "earth" is not.
and limiting our ghgs and global warming does NOT have to result in a one world government or a global tax. - angryredplanet, on 11/26/2008, -0/+2From the teaser and article:
"New research shows that we should be looking to the ground, not the sky, to see where climate change could have its most perilous impact on life on Earth."
Take particular note of the last 6 words of that sentence. Now, moving our quick literal analysis on a little further:
Perilous: fraught with danger; full of peril; risky; "dangerous waters"; "a parlous journey on stormy seas"
What that sentence describes is most definitely negative. - BoneheadFarker, on 11/26/2008, -0/+2@*****
If we die, there's a good chance life will keep on rolling here on Earth and beyond. Don't be so conceited to think that the Earth only exists for our well-being... - lostlyrics, on 12/12/2008, -0/+2The terms "Little Ice Age" and "Medieval Warm Period" have been used to describe two past climate epochs in Europe and neighbouring regions during roughly the 17th to 19th and 11th to 14th centuries, respectively. The timing, however, of these cold and warm periods has recently been demonstrated to vary geographically over the globe in a considerable way (Bradley and Jones, 1993; Hughes and Diaz, 1994; Crowley and Lowery, 2000). Evidence from mountain glaciers does suggest increased glaciation in a number of widely spread regions outside Europe prior to the 20th century, including Alaska, New Zealand and Patagonia (Grove and Switsur, 1994). However, the timing of maximum glacial advances in these regions differs considerably, suggesting that they may represent largely independent regional climate changes, not a globally-synchronous increased glaciation (see Bradley, 1999). Thus current evidence does not support globally synchronous periods of anomalous cold or warmth over this timeframe, and the conventional terms of "Little Ice Age" and "Medieval Warm Period" appear to have limited utility in describing trends in hemispheric or global mean temperature changes in past centuries. With the more widespread proxy data and multi-proxy reconstructions of temperature change now available, the spatial and temporal character of these putative climate epochs can be reassessed.
- christinme, on 11/26/2008, -0/+2your dumb for advertising here.
- wunksta, on 11/26/2008, -0/+2do you even know what science is? science is BASED on observations, tests and data. there is a lot of data to indicate that the changes we make will affect ecosystems and the way people live around the world.
- multifacet3d, on 11/26/2008, -0/+2It's no use man. Not here at least.
- wunksta, on 11/26/2008, -0/+2some the problems pointed out by an increase in global warming or the ghgs we are creating are valid, such as the change in the oceans ph level through it absorbing more co2. this is resulting in a rapidly acidifying ocean, which will change the ecosystem.
- budboomer, on 11/26/2008, -2/+3So when is global warming gonna start causing cancer?
- trisweb, on 11/26/2008, -2/+3Complexity! Try to understand.
Summary: You can't even begin to comprehend how ANY alterations will change complex systems. Recommendation: Don't ***** with them unless you're totally okay with unpredictability of the only environment that supports life within a couple thousand light years.
It's not a crazy idea... pretty obvious when you think about it. Or just read Jurrassic Park. The book, not the movie. Not that I promote whatever else Michael Crichton says, but the book is a good primer to gaining a healthy respect for complexity, something direly lacking in the world these days. - RealDealRick, on 11/26/2008, -4/+5Another retard.
- dbzssj44676, on 11/26/2008, -2/+3I hope Digg never limits the max characters for the comments.
And I don't think anyone will actually read this, but they should. - kindpastor, on 11/26/2008, -1/+2By that logic, none of us should move or breathe, lest we offset the path of a nearby butterfly and cause an avalanche somewhere.
The lesson behind chaos theory is that complex models degrade in the accuracy of their predictions. - serif69, on 11/26/2008, -0/+1Special Consultant: Carl Spackler
- lornali, on 11/26/2008, -0/+1We should look up, down and all around
- SkittlesUSA, on 11/26/2008, -2/+3Here is a satellite photo of Greenland: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4f ...
Does that look farmable to you? Or even green for that matter? No, but it was when the Vikings landed there and called it "Greenland" (because it was green, not white). - scoottie, on 11/26/2008, -6/+7Title should read: Global Warming is a scam.
Even Al Gore has switched to saying climate change - kindpastor, on 11/27/2008, -1/+1And those scary-sounding words refer to...the study? No. The probable effects? No. What DO they refer to? They refer to a possibility of unknown probability, AKA something bad COULD happen but we're not sure how likely it is to happen a 'la meteor destroying the earth or Alien Invasion.
- inactive, on 11/27/2008, -0/+0The sky is not falling you global warming idiots!
Besides it's been cooling for the last 5-8 years. - dbzssj44676, on 11/26/2008, -2/+2I was just thinking that!
- kindpastor, on 11/27/2008, -1/+1Wow, I can't believe I have to do this:
1. Asking a question about a natural phenomenon
2. Making observations of the phenomenon
3. Hypothesizing an explanation for the phenomenon
4. Predicting a logical consequence of the hypothesis
5. Testing the prediction in an experiment
6. Creating a conclusion with data gathered in the experiment
Observation plays a part in the 2nd and 5th steps, but the scientific method is not complete until a conclusion has been reached. Also, you say that there is "there is a lot of data to indicate that the changes we make will affect ecosystems and the way people live around the world." No *****, ever heard of the industrial revolution? The Agricultural revolution? The Enlightenment? The changes we've made have always affected ecosystems and the "way people live around the world, what is so remarkable about this? - kindpastor, on 11/27/2008, -1/+1Why? Before You say "because it will flood our cities, destroy crops, cause droughts and hunger and starvation." keep in mind that nothing in that the only thing agreed upon by the "consensus" (read: the IPCC) is that the sea level will rise 8cm and the temp will increase by 5 degrees...gradually...over a 93 year period." All other claims of the EFFECTS of this increase are pure speculation, with no real science behind the predictions.
- dbzssj44676, on 11/26/2008, -1/+1The earth and all life exists for no reason, but we humans can manipulate our environment to suit us, giving it a reason to exist.
That's probable what he meant. - kindpastor, on 11/26/2008, -2/+2Did you read the article? The effect is not mentioned as either "positive" or "negative". In fact, the effect hasn't been recorded as even happening outside of a laboratory. You just jumped to a conclusion based on a headline. Let me guess, you're a voter, aren't you?
- kindpastor, on 11/27/2008, -1/+1That's the genius behind the green movement, no current "green" policy implemented by any government or private organization is considered by climate scientists as "enough" to mitigate climate change, but it makes people feel good about themselves anyway, despite the uselessness of their actions.
Hint: biking to work instead of driving will not stop global warming. - kindpastor, on 11/26/2008, -2/+2Wrong, the science behind predictions of global temperature increase is sound, the claims of doom and a disaster as a result are not, too many people think that if you don't believe part A, you don't believe part B either.
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