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- EricVKX, on 12/24/2007, -6/+27Even the most generous estimates hold global warming accountable for a surface temperature drop of less then 2 °F during a span of 100 years. Global Warming did not claim Gretzky's famous backyard hockey rink.
- dsendecki, on 12/24/2007, -2/+18I live about 20km away from Walter Gretzky and there's ice all over the place. I'm freezing my ass off!
- whatthefu, on 12/24/2007, -7/+22I'm not denying *****, but how do you know it's a result of global warming?
- lakush, on 12/24/2007, -1/+13Confusing weather and climate? Weather is when Wayne's rink doesn't freeze. Climate is when Wayne's rink stops freezing annually.
- inactive, on 12/24/2007, -4/+14Again, you and your fellow "activists" confuse the terms deniers and realists.
- inactive, on 12/24/2007, -12/+21Sounds like he just lives in the wrong place. From Accuweather: The Winter Weather Center reports that the intensifying storm is creating blizzard conditions over portions of the central Plains Saturday evening and will expand northward to include much of Minnesota, Iowa and parts of Wisconsin and upper Michigan over the balance of the weekend. Storm-related watches, warnings and advisories are in effect from Texas to the Great Lakes.
I guess global warming can't be everywhere at once. - MeNorski, on 12/24/2007, -0/+9 Al Gore is always right of course! Its just an inconvenient truth! *sarcasm*
- inactive, on 12/24/2007, -4/+12We gots lotsa snow and ice down in New Hampshuh; he can come heah if he wants to skate outside.
- randyzaia, on 12/24/2007, -2/+9Maybe people would take global warming nuts more seriously if they stopped making absurd, baseless claims like this.
I'm personally a little warm right now; I attribute it to global warming. - bobster00001, on 12/24/2007, -3/+9YOUR ON CRACK who made this. I live like 2 blocks away from where Wayne Gretzky use to live. It snowed 9 inch of snow. We had the most snow here in half a decade.
- joe122370, on 12/24/2007, -4/+10wow the length the enviro wackos will go to try to sell their scam.........
BTW the last 5 winters here have been the coldest, most snow and ice there has ever been! hottest summer was in the 1930's and it's gotten cooler since then - inactive, on 12/24/2007, -1/+7Because the Goracle said so. Duh! You free-thinking denier, you!
- inactive, on 12/24/2007, -2/+7The chaotic nature of weather means that no conclusion about climate can ever be drawn from a single data point, hot or cold. The temperature of one place at one time is just weather, and says nothing about climate, much less climate change, much less global climate change.
http://digg.com/environment/How_to_answer_the_clai ... - otaku244, on 12/24/2007, -0/+4yeah, but historically, we have only seen gradual changes over centuries, not changes over decades. Our knowledge of weather patterns in the last 300 years or so. Scientist *have* found evidence greatly supporting a cyclical warming and cooling *over centuries.* Our global average temperature has risen 3 degrees since the beginning of the 20th Century. To put that in perspective, the GAT during the last Ice Age was about 8 or 9 degrees cooler. This isn't something to scoff at. You can hold your position, but take a good look at the opposition. You have nothing to lose if you're right, but we have everything to lose if you're wrong.
- inactive, on 12/24/2007, -2/+6Objection: The alarmists were predicting the onset of an ice age in the '70s. Now it's too much warming! Why should we believe them this time?
Answer: It is true that there were some predictions of an "imminent ice age" in the 1970s, but a cursory comparison of those warnings and today's reveals a huge difference.
Today, you have a widespread scientific consensus, supported by national academies and all the major scientific institutions, solidly behind the warning that the temperature is rising, anthropogenic CO2 is the primary cause, and it will worsen unless we reduce emissions.
In the 1970s, there was a book in the popular press, a few articles in popular magazines, and a small amount of scientific speculation based on the recently discovered glacial cycles and the recent slight cooling trend from air pollution blocking the sunlight. There were no daily headlines. There was no avalanche of scientific articles. There were no United Nations treaties or commissions. No G8 summits on the dangers and possible solutions. No institutional pronouncements. You could find broader "consensus" on a coming alien invasion.
Quite simply, there is no comparison.
http://digg.com/environment/How_to_answer_the_clai ... - Railer, on 12/24/2007, -6/+10You go after a guy pointing out this has been one of the coldest winters in a decade calling him a denier, yet you COMPLETELY ignore evidence of global warming based on the BACKYARD of one guy??? Congratulations you are a blind moron.
- Aidenf77, on 12/24/2007, -1/+5If he needs somewhere to practice, my driveway should do just fine. It's been a solid sheet of ice for three weeks... and I'm much farther south than Canada. Warmer winters my ass.
- inactive, on 12/24/2007, -0/+4I guess America will be known as the Great White South? Snow's just another natural resource that America's taking from Canada. Give it back, we need our hockey!
- inactive, on 12/24/2007, -0/+4Is 2 °F a global average or were they specifically measuring Gretzky's backyard?
- theelectricafro, on 12/24/2007, -0/+3Sorry my bad. Man made global warming is a faith based cult. There are real enviormental issues out there. This is just a UN tax grab. Do you homework on that and then come back.
- sailadayaway, on 12/24/2007, -1/+4Wait, the river's not freezing?!?! It must be global warming!! It can't be that maybe there's more water flowing down the river at a faster pace or anything, no, there aren't any other variables that come into play, it MUST be global warming.
- inactive, on 12/24/2007, -0/+3The chaotic nature of weather means that no conclusion about climate can ever be drawn from a single data point, hot or cold. The temperature of one place at one time is just weather, and says nothing about climate, much less climate change, much less global climate change.
http://digg.com/environment/How_to_answer_the_clai ... - eth3l, on 12/24/2007, -0/+3No one is denying the climate cahnges. in fact, if anything, LoneRanger's comment hilights the fact that the climate is different in differnt parts of the workd all the time.
the only thing to contest with global warming is the cause. Some say its man made others say its not. - iamnos, on 12/24/2007, -1/+4Heck, most of Canada is forecast to be colder than normal this winter:
http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/saisons/image_e.htm ... - theisel, on 12/24/2007, -0/+2@Bossa:
Do you have a point?
Or are you just hateful? - antipoet, on 12/24/2007, -1/+3While I think it is important to take action to clean up our act in whatever way we can, I also believe it's important to consider the full agenda of the people who make statements such as these.
- endersshadow, on 12/24/2007, -0/+2The photo (and presumably story) was taken Nov 15. I'm not near Canadia anymore, but I grew up near the border, and can say that winter varied its start time every year from mid October to mid December. All you could be assured of is that it would last 6 months from whenever it started. Some years you got lucky and had a 40 degree Thanksgiving. Great for football! At any rate, Ontario is quite cold enough now. Probably even froze that swimming pool.
- gtluke, on 12/24/2007, -0/+2HOLY CRAP, FIRST DAY OF WINTER WAS 2 DAYS AGO
what an ***** - inactive, on 12/24/2007, -1/+3Objection: More and more, climate models share all the same assumptions -- so of course they all agree! And every year, fewer scientists dare speak out against the findings of the IPCC, thanks to the pressure to conform.
Answer: The growing confluence of model results and the increasingly similar physical representations of the climate system from model to model may well look like sharing code or tweaking 'til things look alike. But it is also perfectly consistent with better and better understanding of the underlying problem, an understanding that is shared via scientific journals and research. This understanding is coming fast as we gather more and more historical and current data, all of which provides more testing material for model refinement.
Viewing the increasing agreement among climate models and climate scientists as collusion instead of consensus is a rather conspiratorial take on the normal course of scientific investigation. I suppose that fewer and fewer scientists disagreeing with the status quo is indeed consistent with some kind of widespread and insidious suppression of ideas, but you know, it is also consistent with having the right answer.
http://digg.com/environment/How_to_answer_the_clai ... - Frostman3D, on 12/24/2007, -2/+4I blame Al Gore!
- slvrbullet87, on 12/24/2007, -0/+2Every single one? dont think so scooter.
Those who do use about 15 qualifiers when they say GW is happening.
Example
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/ ...
On Feb. 2, 2007, the United Nations scientific panel studying climate change declared that the evidence of a warming trend is "unequivocal," and that human activity has "very likely" been the driving force in that change over the last 50 years. The last report by the group, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, in 2001, had found that humanity had "likely" played a role.
Count the qualifiers, so many pads you would think its the chick shelf at walmart. - Railer, on 12/24/2007, -0/+2There is some evidence Jesus walked the earth, doesn't mean I think he's God.
- dinatron72, on 12/24/2007, -0/+2Wow its an eco maniac and he hates everyone!!
- theelectricafro, on 12/24/2007, -8/+9Global warming is a faith based cult. How dare you blashpheme and deny the word of the E-Gore! The only thing that is being denied is the position of hundreds of climate scientist that disagree. Climate always changes.
- slvrbullet87, on 12/24/2007, -1/+2Brantford Ontario
Sure wouldnt have any snow or ice there... oh wait its snowing now
http://www.theweathernetwork.com/index.php?product ... - paker, on 12/24/2007, -0/+1And it has snowed in Florida on Christmas eve, so what's your point??
- inactive, on 12/25/2007, -0/+1Gee, my point, oooh....
Climate changed. Therefore, the climate is changing. - EricVKX, on 12/24/2007, -7/+8Goddamn edit feature. Anyways, as I was saying.
Even the most generous estimates hold global warming accountable for a surface temperature increase of less then 2 °F during a span of 100 years. Global Warming did not claim Gretzky's famous backyard hockey rink. - onemanwaking, on 12/24/2007, -1/+2I live 10KM from Brantford, Ontario (his hometown) and we've already had more snow this year than the total amount for all last year. It was a fluke that yesterday reached 6 degrees C and was raining, but it sure compensated for it today. It's cold and everything is frozen solid. Gretzky will be getting his rink back in no time...
- inactive, on 12/24/2007, -0/+1Ayuh, some of us know how to transliterate a Down East accent, but you flatlandahs from away just don't understand you can't get theah from heah. And if mah ahs don't deceive me, y'all need to practice that in other areas, bubba. ;-)
- NoCt1, on 12/24/2007, -0/+1dugg and dugg and dugg
- inactive, on 12/24/2007, -1/+2Ah yes, because they hardly make any money with Oil conglomerates that bribe them, they would make a lot more money with 40 employee companies who make almost no profit in order to promote renewable energy, the least profitable type of energy.
- mccarron, on 12/24/2007, -0/+1The funniest thing about that storm in the midwest is that the two days before it hit, it was 45 degrees in Chicago. Most the snow was washed away by rain. Then from around 12 til 6am on the 23rd it dropped 20 degrees when the new storm came in.
- liquidjamm, on 12/24/2007, -1/+2dugg and dugg
- jonnyboy1544, on 12/24/2007, -1/+2I hate you too... :) Merry Christmas!
- mortigon, on 12/24/2007, -0/+1for anyone who didn't get it, Gretzky live in Phoenix half of the year while her coaches the Phoenix Coyotes
- Bobthecow81, on 12/24/2007, -1/+2You hate insensible people? Because it sounds like you're really sensible yourself....
- mortigon, on 12/24/2007, -0/+1i mean he*
- santaliqueur, on 12/24/2007, -0/+1Unless there is more to Walter Gretzky's quote, the only place that global warming is mentioned is in the blog. Methinks it's only to get more page hits, since global warming is such an active current news topic. Stupid ***** blog.
- Jordan117, on 12/24/2007, -1/+2What's next, the snows of Kilimanjaro?
http://www.news24.com/News24/Technology/News/0,,2- ...
*****, too late. -
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