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- chicaneuk, on 12/09/2007, -1/+48I don't understand the resistance to these things. People in towns near to where I live are outraged about them and demand that they be nowhere near where they live.
I personally think they're a breathtaking sight and love to see them on the rare occasions I see them when driving. If the government want to put one in my back garden, they're welcome to! - inactive, on 12/09/2007, -2/+39Ted Kennedy (D) Massachusetts are you listening? HUh??? Nah just another fat cat Democrat who doesn't give a rats ass about the environment. His sea views are much more important than saving the environment.
- GMorgan, on 12/09/2007, -1/+23We are going nuclear. Britain is actually taking a balanced approach to the energy problem. We'd have far more renewables were it not for planning laws and idiotic members of the public.
- xxTazxx, on 12/09/2007, -0/+20Now I can use my PC all night playing Crysis, and feel guilty only half the time!
- DaleoftheUK, on 12/09/2007, -0/+19Shallow waters make these a breeze to put up.
- scrptKiddie, on 12/09/2007, -3/+21THOSE BASTARDS!!! The wind farms will ruin the... err... view. And they'll kill birds! Yeah, thats right, they'll kill the birds, and we can't have our views and birds harmed just to slow global warming (its a myth... I once heard a guy in a labcoat who appeared vaguely scientific tell me global warmings a myth, and he MUST be right)
- ropers, on 12/09/2007, -2/+18Yea. And stay away from the Netherlands as well. Because all these windmills are so terrible.
/sarcasm - thebellmaster1x, on 12/09/2007, -1/+15Oh, do explain how a wind turbine craps out megatons of garbage, IIHII.
- swab, on 12/09/2007, -2/+13Yes, imagine having to pay the true cost of energy.. what a nightmare!
- inactive, on 12/09/2007, -12/+23Oh for goodness sake, go nuclear and forget all of these problems forever.
- mykool, on 12/09/2007, -4/+14First - helmets of the police is the one place a camera makes since and second windmills are a beautiful!
- kazamx, on 12/09/2007, -1/+11When I was in Wales, the beach had a wind farm out in the distance. Yes you can see them, but its like tiny specks on the horizon. Its not like HUGE windmills then ruin the view.
- kazamx, on 12/09/2007, -0/+10A guy on the Channel 4 news just explained it. It has never been the case that the whole of the UK doesn't have any wind. While it might be calm in Scotland it will be windy in Wales.
- houltmac, on 12/09/2007, -0/+9Well said, I'll second that.
- throop77, on 12/09/2007, -0/+9I think they look pretty cool off in the distance doing their thing. Its not like they will be on the beach.
- kazamx, on 12/09/2007, -1/+9With the way Oil and Gas prices are going up, that could seem like a bargain pretty soon.
- thebellmaster1x, on 12/09/2007, -0/+7You may want to take a look at this. "Solar now cheaper than coal"
http://www.digg.com/environment/Nanosolar_s_Breakt ... - digghasnoethics, on 12/09/2007, -0/+7Forget sticking wind turbines up in coastal waters, what we need is to concentrate on wave and tidal power in those same waters. Not only is the energy more concentrated, its much more reliable - particular in the case of tidal power. There is no way a substantial proportion of the UKs power can be wind or sun because of what happens when its cloudy and still. 20% is about the maximum.
- roodammy44, on 12/09/2007, -0/+7If nuclear wasn't so subsidised by the government it would cost more than renewables.
Developing these technologies might give britain a technological edge and be able to sell these windmills to the rest of the world - all while not warming the earth! - starlord1, on 12/09/2007, -0/+7I think they look awesome, but I'm an engineer so I then remember how dreadfully inefficient they can be,
- theright, on 12/09/2007, -4/+10I'm sure all this will blow over in a couple of weeks and nothing much will happen
- localzuk, on 12/09/2007, -1/+7Too right! I would prefer to see wind turbines than nuke plants - a giant grey blot on the landscape or elegant turbines?
- dtham, on 12/09/2007, -2/+8First, it's in development to supplement our energy use.
Second, you don't think it will get that high once we run out of fossil fuels to use? - inactive, on 12/09/2007, -1/+7Except you know it's pretty uncommon for a Briton to pay their bills in dollars....
- inactive, on 12/09/2007, -0/+6I live 15 miles from a nuclear plant (Hinckley Point, in Somerset). It is just a great big concrete monstrosity right on the coast. For some reason, all I can think about when I see it is skulking around inside it with a double-action shotgun hunting mutant zombies.
Can't imagine a wind farm having that effect... - EarlR, on 12/09/2007, -0/+5Love to see it happen.
They seriously need to built the supergrid.
http://www.airtricity.com/ireland/wind_farms/super ...
The future electricity supply of Europe should stand on three pillars, Wind power from the west, Solar from the south and nuclear (eastern Europe for preference) but probably widely dispersed.
This is important stuff - the cost of a day without electricity would pay for thousands of megawatts of renewable power.
We should be doing this BEFORE the cheap oil, runs out. By the time we are down to burning bad coal to keep the lights on it will be too late.
I wish I had more confidence in our politicans. - scrptKiddie, on 12/09/2007, -2/+7Oh and in all seriousness, ***** Ron Paul. He called the Darfur genocide (I'm quoting) "Not our problem."
- Radian, on 12/09/2007, -1/+6Dugg up for correct use of "offshore"!
Not sure why the IT sweatshops in land-locked Bangalore refer to themselves as being "offshore". Oh wait, I think that statement just answered my question..... - IVIrMP3, on 12/09/2007, -0/+5Ted Kennedy in response to Offshore Turbines near Cape Cod, "Don't you realize, that's where I sail?!"
- localzuk, on 12/09/2007, -0/+5It won't do. There has been too little investment in energy in the UK for too long. Any changes to preserve supplies is going to cause increases, whether it be nuclear or renewables.
- inactive, on 12/09/2007, -4/+8How much does one of these bad boys cost? Never mind. Doesn't matter.
Tell you what. Give me an entire ocean of them.
I'm using taxpayer money. It's like real money, but not mine! So it is sorta' free in that sense. - lcmatt, on 12/10/2007, -0/+4Never had a problem with them either. I've heard quite a few people around here moan about a small turbine farm which has been given planning permission (only 5 will be built). Would they still moan if someone said as of tomorrow we'll have no more fossil fuels.
- GfunkGbuss, on 12/09/2007, -1/+5But an inefficient renewable energy generation setup is better than an efficient one that will run out.
- localzuk, on 12/09/2007, -1/+4I live just down the coast from Hinkley Point, in Minehead and if I go for a walk on Exmoor or just up North Hill I can see that plant. It is an eyesore more so than any wind farm.
Also, which would you prefer: http://www.birminghamuk.com/somerset/hinkley/somer ... or http://www.offshore-power.net/Files/Billeder/scrob ... - zXen, on 12/09/2007, -0/+3"There would still be a need to keep fossil-fuelled power stations in reserve because windless days could leave Britain with power shortages."
Read the article. - GMorgan, on 12/09/2007, -0/+3There are wind turbines in Wales? We have all the needed wind but also plenty of interfering NIMBYs.
Britain should focus on tidal power. Our coast has some of the most ridiculously strong undercurrents on the planet and has huge potential. Of course the technical challenges of using this are far greater than simple wind. - TypeEE, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2fusion is still an unsure thing, it might never happen.
- ashlvsya, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2I live in Liverpool and just past Bootle there is a wind farm, it is a breathtaking sight...but a pity that there is only about 5 of them.
- starlord1, on 12/09/2007, -1/+3Well as I recall there is a party that proposes to relax planning laws to allow better investment in renewable like this. However... I'd also back judicious use of Nuclear... however we'd have to bring in some Iranian, South African or French engineers to do it as we can't do jack on our own at the moment.
- starlord1, on 12/09/2007, -1/+3Really ? He was beginning to grow on me this week too. Well as much as a candidate in a race that neither effects me, nor I can effect actually can grow on me.
- Ferretman, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2A good plan overall...good for Britain!
- Jegzzy, on 12/09/2007, -1/+3As if it will end all touriism ahahahh, shut up.
- bosssmiley, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2"UK govt says" = the most vaporous of vapourware. They'll talk this up for a week or so, and then - their 'green policy for the month' checkbox ticked - they'll quietly shelve the plans the moment they safely can.
I'll believe it when I see the swarms of grotesquely inefficient whirling eyesores blotting the horizon, and not a moment before.
The Severn tidal barrage would do all this at a fraction of the price and hassle (gravity-powered water-driven turbines, what energy could be free-er than that?) - sjons, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2speaking of water, sea dog pumps, more efficient..
http://www.renewableenergyaccess.com/rea/news/stor ... - kazamx, on 12/09/2007, -1/+3reducing the amount of oil/gas we need to buy in can only be a good thing. Having the whole country rely almost 100% on other countries to function can't be a good thing.
- Flunk, on 12/09/2007, -0/+2As it said in the article they will keep the old power plants as backup for such occasions.
- localzuk, on 12/09/2007, -0/+2Actually, using current research figures (which are dumbed down in the BBC energy calculator on their site), if the UK switched entirely to renewables for its supply we would pay just over double what we pay now for our energy in 2020. If we maintain the same level of nuclear as we have now, reduce our consumption by using better insulation and the like and then make up the difference in renewables, we would be able to have bills which were only 15% higher than now... I'd go for that.
- TypeEE, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2You didn't even read the whole article
- inactive, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2'How to Make Friends and Influence People - The Interweb Edition' copyright lordsandwich2 2007
- localzuk, on 12/09/2007, -0/+2True - there was a study which said a full tidal barrier across the bristol channel could provide something like 5% of the UK's power needs. That is one river!!
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