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- byronm, on 10/11/2007, -8/+62Actually all of those 5 issues play a role in global warming. Global warming isn't an entity in itself that precludes solving any of our other problems, its just a fancy face on something we should all take our own actions in slowing down/reversing and the 5 issues stated all play an important role in global warming and environmentalism. Its called Balance. Lets get back in balance with the earth and our own lives and with those around us.
- BESTenemy, on 10/11/2007, -3/+43Well, if we're so concerned about carbon emissions, then the end of fossil fuel economy should be a good thing.
- Mlachant, on 10/11/2007, -14/+54I'm not sure that I would put all of the events in the top five in front of Global Warming, but never the less they are all important issues that we need to address.
- elnerdo, on 10/11/2007, -13/+50Solution to all of those problems:
Stop having so many children! - stauken, on 10/11/2007, -8/+33It's not human overpopulation per se; it's stupid human population that is the actual root of the problem.
- Langford, on 10/11/2007, -11/+33Every issue on that page, including global warming, seem to be symptoms of human overpopulation.
- venicerocco, on 10/11/2007, -2/+22Dugg for peak oil alone.
- manicallday, on 10/11/2007, -7/+27Slow drivers in the fast lane.
Crabs. - Langford, on 10/11/2007, -0/+17I've never advocated killing to reduce overpopulation, and I seriously doubt that "everyone" who thinks the word is overpopulated does. In fact, that notion probably rarely comes up in conversation, so I can only assume you thought it would be edgy humor to suggest it.
A far more humane method than the one you seem to suggest is to reduce birthrates. Any law regarding this would naturally seem very unpleasant, overreaching, and potentially abused by the wealthy, but what solution doesn't give that impression? - Akaji, on 10/21/2007, -12/+29Buried for no "More Paris Hilton News Coverage"
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -16/+33the only thing worse than global warming is all the performances at the Live Earth Concerts
- venicerocco, on 10/11/2007, -1/+18Do me a favor - monitor all the things you buy and everything you own and see how many of them need oil - from the manufacturing of plastics to transportation - and how this will affect their cost when the price of oil increases. When you conclude that ALL of them do then you'll understand why it's kind of an enormous problem.
- manitoba98xp, on 10/11/2007, -0/+16There are three ways to decrease the human population on Earth:
a) Emigration (to space) — impratical, still requires Earth's resources
b) Killing existing humans — cruel, inhumane, looked down upon
c) Reducing reproduction — the best solution, since it does not kill existing humans (and thus is not murder). This is what most advocates suggest, like has been done (albeit somewhat extremely) in China. - LowRentDiggs, on 10/11/2007, -4/+17All 6 of these are just symptoms of the same issues: apathy, greed and ignorance.
- manicallday, on 10/11/2007, -3/+16I always wondered why this never considered. I tell people that I want to adopt and they just freak out. I can't understand why people are so willing to go to the pound for a pet but unwilling to take the same philosophy for a child. I just tell them that the world is just too over crowed and it's just too irresponsible to have anymore.
- byronm, on 10/11/2007, -2/+15Your intelligence really shines here buddy. The article is about 5 things besides global warming that should get talk time. Wow.. RTFA next time.
- Dralha, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12Not in Brazil.
- Ninnux, on 10/11/2007, -3/+15The end of cheap petro chemicals......think about that. The United States' infrastructure has been built around the premise of cheap energy. Imagine what would happen is this assumption breaks. My God. The experiment known as America would fail.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -6/+17just because he calls it psuedo-science doesn't mean that it's fake. It's called we're automatically jumping on the alarmist bandwagon without listening to opposing view point, which is what normal scientists do.
- yonas, on 10/11/2007, -13/+23Buried for idiocy. Some are results of global warming, some are the causes of global warming. Notice the trend?
What a ridiculous waste of time. - slicedoranges, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9Yeah, the problem is we'd better have en equal or better alternative by the time that comes around, or a lot of people will be very mad...
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -4/+13Basically we are totally fu*ked! So I think its about time we celebrate the end of the world, waste resources and generally live a little more...
- BESTenemy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10The Global Warming's becoming the "Paris Hilton" of our problems. Whenever we need to take our minds off resolvable issues in our immediate future, we focus on a still delevoping theory. Going down a few blocks and giving a hobo one of my sweaters and few bucks? Screw that! I've got more important things! I'm preventing global warming!
Elections? Screw inflation and depreciating assets. It's not like my kid will have to go to college any time in the next few thousand years. I want my politician to tell me what he plans to do about carbon emissions!
Pardon my rant, but I fully agree with the article. I believe in doing what we can do more efficiently first, of all the things we want to do. Let's make the life better for those that are right here right now and then maybe collectively we'll be able to figure out better what to do with the rest of our problems. Let's fix problems at home, before we go elsewhere. - thewaxgrid, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9Exactly. Global warming and all the 5 problems listed are actually all a dependent or related to overpopulation. Humans need to be phased out to a level that Earth will support. Overpopulation will always be the number one problem to me.
- Tettsujjin, on 10/11/2007, -7/+15"The end of cheap oil"...That is a good thing. It seems to be the only things that will keep us idiot humans from destroying this place.
- Andechs, on 10/11/2007, -9/+16Peak Oil? People have been worrying about that since the 70s. The main reason oil is so high is b/c of OPEC and the fact that no refining infrastructure is being built to keep up with the increase in demand.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8you mean like the one that was happening in the 70s?
- cyclox, on 10/11/2007, -5/+12the only thing worse than global warming is not having anything witty to say about it.
- thcobbs, on 10/11/2007, -7/+14Anyone else think that the logistical demands of the "Live Earth" concert scheme kinda negate the positive effects that might result?
I mean there is the transportation of the artists, roadies, support staff, presenters, local viewers etc.
The feeding of the artists, roadies, support staff, presenters, local viewers etc.
The electricity to run the cameras, instruments, lights, sound equipment, satellite uplinks, TV stations, etc.
The satellite time that will be required to distribute it
The launches of those satellites (granted it was in the past, but it should be counted in)
The electricity of the satellite control centers that must be kept on for the show to be distributed
The energy of the TVs that will be watching
The light bulbs left on in the houses of those who are watching
The electricity/oil/gas used to cool/warm the homes watching this concert while more than the average are home
The electricity of the pledge centers
The transportation of the pledge center employees
I could keep going.. but now I'm bored. - thatsmyaibo, on 10/11/2007, -3/+10Couldn't agree more. I believe in global warming but the causes, whether man or nature, are still unclear. Scientists have been talking a lot about it, but they are also getting government funding for supporting it. The problems in the article are happening without doubt and should be addressed before we get apocalyptic about something we are unsure of.
- magnetbox, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9Wouldn't the first crisis (End of Cheap Oil) solve the other crises?
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8Seems "bloggy" but I'll dig it because I happen to agree 100% and you don't see much of this in the mainstream media.
- byronm, on 10/11/2007, -11/+18Powerless? Humans are infinately powerfull, its within our reach to do something about anything we put our minds to. 400 years ago people could barely cross oceans, today we're driving robots on foreign planets and strange universes. Science has no limits, nor does humanity. You are only part of the problem if you think the problem is unsolvable.
Its also funny that you call global warming crusaders misguided. They're probably the most guided people in the world doing something intelligently to better livin within the one world we have. I mean NOT doing anything is much worse than pretending we can't do anything. - darwin81, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Just take the warning labels of everything and the problem will solve itself.
- byronm, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Yeah, but lumber is chopped down at a rate millions of times quicker than trees grow. Thats why i love to see Bamboo take off - it grows fast and is sustainable. Planting trees after you rape a forrest isn't sustainable.
- byronm, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6i agree.. it may be global warming to some, but to me its just common sense to take care of this one earth we are given. hot or cold, we shouldn't continue to f it up as if there are no ramificaitons to our rampant raping of the world.
- venicerocco, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6The end of cheap oil, The Collapse of Ocean Ecosystems, The Coming Water Crisis, Deforestation and Nuclear Weapons are to do with human activity and over-population and not really related to global warming in any direct sense.
If you do not "believe" in Global Climate Change, you should at least be aware that there are many other harmful consequences of human behavior and over population. Your list of topics to ignore is going to increase over the next few decades, by the way. - lotuseater, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5The end of cheap oil does not mean that products will become a little bit more expensive and American life will continue as usual. Unless we find a replacement, which seems extremely unlikely, it means a gigantic, world-wide crash in economies and a huge depression that we've probably never seen before. Something like 95% of all transportation of anything - boats, airplanes, trucks - is powered by oil, not to mention the huge amount of plastics and other petroleum products that we rely on. Agriculture is also entirely dependent on oil. If it only took us 150 years to reach the top of the peak, it will take us half that time, or even a quarter, to reach the bottom.
Watch the documentary "a crude awakening." It is fairly biased but mostly, if not all, truth. - Jamihabs, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Move!
- caboosemoose, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Are you on crack? I'm fascinated as to how some efforts to create sustainable lumber farms elsewhere in the world has anything to do with the merry and rapid destruction of the most vibrant, medically important and atmospherically important ecosystem in the world in South America. We've barely begun to scratch the surface on what compounds of medical use can be extracted from Amazonia and getting rid of the whole damn place before we've looked through it is disastrous. Having said that, making regulatory demands on Brazil isn't going to cut it, calculations of net present value need to be radically altered otherwise the market will just carry on as it is: encouraging greater incentive to deforestation for lumber and farm land (even though rainforest soil is crap for farmland) than the protection of Amazonia for our own long term benefit.
- byronm, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5carbon credits are a joke.. and i get what you are saying that the act of having a festival adds "fuel to the fire" of the issues they're trying to solve but the process has to start somewhere. I've been to things like that and there are renewable energy companies, lumber, food, processing, fuels, construction just about everything under the son that you can walk away from there better informed to make your own changes. The impact has to be seen/heard somewhere for many people to be invigorated into doing something to begin with.
- leo78, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5No cheap oil doesn't just effect SUV owners. Many people still have to deal with the rising price of fuel. Being able to drive your car to work isn't supposed to be a luxury expense. Also that oil is used in more than just your car. Don't expect any corporations to absorb those costs for you. The cost of airfare will skyrocket, along with every other item you purchase that uses oil or it's byproducts in their production. This is a huge issue since we don't have any real backup plans as of yet. But hey opinions are like ***** everyone has one.
- byronm, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5If the world were in absolutes, it would be true. But its not. The benefits of awareness outweigh the ramifications of a festival. We can pretend the only way to solve our problems is to be terribly absolute about them, or we can take practical steps to make a difference and bring awareness to the issues.
- killiansman, on 10/11/2007, -4/+8was I the only one who realized that most of these issues are directly linked to global warming and that all of them fall under the umbrella of environmetalism?
- tech42er, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5It's not the lumber companies in North America that are cause for concern. It's the slash-and-burn farmers in Central and Southern America.
- maxsunset, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4damn right, I would LOVE to just filter out certain topics I just dont want to deal with on digg (not because I'm closed minded, but because I tend to just get pissed at so many of the idiotic misinformed comments...).
- BenHanby, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4People who want to reduce the human population obviously don't want "everyone else dead but themselves."
But you've found the root of the problem, as demonstrated by Idiocracy: Responsible people who are trying to look out for future generations by reproducing responsibly will die off, while the horny who-gives-a-***** masses will produce the bulk of the next generation. - DangerCollie, on 10/11/2007, -3/+7Let's set global warming and peak oil aside for a second. I think they're a bit overblown but still worthy causes. We really want to become more efficient with our transportation fuels and develop renewable energy to get off our dependence on foreign oil. And if, in the process of pursuing that national strategic defense goal, we also lower our carbon footprint and can stop worrying about peak oil, then those are good things, right?
The rain forest loss...some of you aren't going to like this...but what happens after farmers clear part of a rain forest? They plant crops. Those crops take back some of the carbon out of the atmosphere. Yes, we should try to set aside big parts of the rain forest and leave them intact. But a girl's gotta eat. Many people find it surprising that some tribes that live in harmony with nature, sometimes clear large tracts of old forest. Because there's not much bio-production in an old growth forest. All the bio-production is happening where the forest has been cleared.
But do worry about the fresh water supply. That's going to be an urban problem as well. So much of our fresh water delivery infrastructure is really old. Cities have been subsidizing water bills by putting off infrastructure upgrades. That can't go on indefinitely. You can hedge against the higher prices by buying stock in companies that upgrade water systems (hey, every dark cloud has silver lining if you have the gold). Same with electrical production. Urban centers and utilities have been subsidizing cheap electricity buy putting off much needed upgrades in capacity. That tab will come due fairly soon as well. - byronm, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Rainforests were self sustaining ecosystems, cutting them down and planting non sustainable agriculture (and more often than not, terribly taxing on the environment livestock and produce) doesn't balance out the ecosystem.
Sure, people need food, but natives to the rainforrests haven't had problems with getting food either. (until they have no more rain forrests..) - psbpv3o, on 10/11/2007, -22/+26But these are all real threats...global warming is based off bad evidence and mostly pseudo-science
just saying..digg me down :( -
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