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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7"I read something the other day that says in the last four years, surface temperatures on average have not gone up. ... If they%u2019re trending anywhere, they%u2019re trending down the last four years."
-- Rush Limbaugh, 7/7/06
VERSUS
"'The five warmest years over the last century occurred in the last eight years,' said James Hansen, director of NASA GISS. They stack up as follows: the warmest was 2005, then 1998, 2002, 2003 and 2004."
-- NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, 1/24/06
Rush Limbaugh is a big fat idiot - kp3469, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8the government will drag its feet for years to come, until this cirsis begins to really come to a head. then they will try to do something about it, and hopefully it will not be too late. this is how unimaginative people work - wait until the ***** hits the fan, then clean it up.
i hope i am wrong. - fredrated, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"No offense, but these anecdotal statements are meaningless."
The science behind global climate change isn't based on anectdotal evidence, dick head, and it isn't based in television, so turn off the tv and ask for your brain back. - fancypantscz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"The Vostok ice core allows us to look back in time. The ice at the bottom of the core is nearly 500 thousand years old.
This ice, like all water and ice, is made of hydrogen and oxygen. Small amounts of the hydrogen are a special heavy form called deuterium. Scientists have observed a relationship between local temperature and deuterium concentration in ice collected during periods that temperature was also known. There is no reason to believe that this relationship has changed over time so the levels of deuterium in ancient ice can be used to reconstruct past climate."
http://www.seed.slb.com/en/scictr/watch/climate_change/proxydata.htm - Mitijea, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Aidenag, the funny thing is, we've gotten twice the snow here in northern California (well all of California) this year, as we normally do. Even though I suffer through the 110+ heat, I can get solace (well, be tortured is more like it) by looking out my windows both to the north (Mt. Shasta) and to the east (Mt. Lassen) and still see snow. In fact they just opened the road in Lassen park a few days ago and there is still 8 feet of snow in the parking lot.
I think a lot of what Shrade attributes his colder weather to this year, in the first half, was actually the number of days we had precipitation. Far above normal. What worries me the most is that I remember seeing predictions a decade ago that some areas would see these type of changes (Not hotter necessarily, but wetter and more extreme), and that the west coast was one of them. Maybe it wasn't so far fetched as it seemed. - Mitijea, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Fransisco"... hopefully I got the quote right by Mark Twain.
I'm under the impression that when it is hotter in the central part of California, the bay area tends to be cooler on average. I know I've escaped many a scorching day by heading your way.
Oh, and just so you know, I live north of you now, and I've already had weeks of 100+ degree weather and quite a few over 110 (117 is the official high here so far this year). We've broken quite a few records so far this year (which were only new from a year or two before). The last few years just seem have gotten hotter here (I'm at the top of the central valley, Redding). If you want your heat back, we'd be very happy to send it. - gloomybear, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Surely you don't think that the first couple of billion years would count has being hospitable to mankind?
The geologic data for human-compatible climate goes back at least 500,000 years, and the trendline in the past 20-30 years go way beyond what has happened in the past half-million. - vikingcoder, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3People with the reading comprehension of a squirrel are worthless.
"I didn't murder him, he was going to be dead in about 40 years anyways." isn't much of a defense. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6The government actually admitted this? So are they just going to ignore these numbers too then?
- Llan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3You should quit eating these funny little mushrooms...the only make Mario stronger...
- ChileanGoD, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Maybe your grandchildren you flying dumbass.
- Aidenag, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Yeah thats because Seattle got all of Northern California's Heat the last year.... IT SUCKS!!!!! i want my mellow cool breezy days back... that and snow.. anyone in seattle will tell you thats the true sign we got global warming goin on.. our snowfall the last decade has shrunk like 500%+
- fancypantscz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Umm... The world doesn't look over to me. In fact even if Earth approved a run-away greenhouse effect like that on Venus I bet there would still be some microbes somewhere who would then thrive. Who's to say then that after a billion years of evolution there would be another race of highly intelligent beings with the ability to change Earth’s climate again. Despairing the end of the world is pointless. I am worried about my grandchildren raising a family in a FEMA tent while the offspring of third generation trust-funders play happily in their carcinogen free ecosphere.
Lets get one thing strait, if Armageddon comes god is going to save those with the most liquid capital. - Schrade, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3The first half of this year in my area (The Bay Area) was considerably cooler than it normally is. The last 2-3 years have been way cooler than normal here during the summer.
Not a very accurate statement for my area that's for sure. - peritonlogon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@n2art
Somehow I don't think the moments immediately after the big bang would be relevant to the Earth's changing climate and it's affect on man.
I mean, our galaxy isn't a particularly old one and our sun is fairly new. So what do the 8-9 billion years before our solar system existed bear on global climate change?
Well, they tell us that, just because you have the ability to type doesn't mean you have a clue about what it is you're typing. - SuperMoonMan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1World = Over
- boysranch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The year 2006 was the hottest year..maybe since the beginning of time..and according to many researches, the rise in temperature will keep moving high. Every other year will be warmer than the previous one . Global warming is a serious threat to the world right now. We must take action to control pollution and emission of harmful gases in the air, if we want to save nature. http://www.silveradoboysranch.com/
- dizzidazzle, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Even if you only take into account the time human beings have been around (roughly 200,000 years) that still leaves you with a sample size of 0.0555%. And to add to that, how accurate were those readings in 1895?
- blacktone, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Naw.. Reeealy? Don't worry about saving the planet for your kids, find a way to get us on a new one. This planet is so crowded I'm having a hard time finding a job. if I was on some moon base with moon babes, I wouldn't care how hot the earth got.
- phonest, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0And the data from more than a few thousand years ago is worthless for estimating what the impact of climate change will be on the ecosystem we have right now. Sure it was hotter 65 million years ago... but there weren't 6 billion humans destroying habitat and overfishing the oceans then.
Think about it. - cousinlarry, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"You've got 13 billion years and temperature readings from only 111 years. That is not a large enough sample to base any conclusions on."
Please don't embarrass yourself by saying things like this in public.
First of all we have hundreds of thousands of years' climate records, evidence of earth's temperature and CO2 trapped in ancient ice:
http://www.secretsoftheice.org/icecore/studies.html
Second of all, these thousands of years' worth of data is all we need to create a conclusion. There is no "debate" about whether we caused this warming - only uneducated or unintelligent people like you throwing stones at the science for reasons I will never understand. - cousinlarry, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"You've got 13 billion years and temperature readings from only 111 years. That is not a large enough sample to base any conclusions on."
Please don't embarrass yourself by saying things like this in public.
First of all we have hundreds of thousands of years' climate records, evidence of earth's temperature and CO2 trapped in ancient ice:
http://www.secretsoftheice.org/icecore/studies.html
Second of all, these thousands of years' worth of data is all we need to create a conclusion, and scientists did come to the conclusion that the earth is warming and human activity is causing it back in the 1970's. - DrMatt, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1I go out into the backyard once a week... and it's definitely is getting hotter! Oh, wait... IT'S SUMMER! No offense, but these anecdotal statements are meaningless.
If you can, watch Penn & Teller's show BS on "global warming". We're coming out of an ICE AGE people. It's going to get hotter! - n2art, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1You've got 13 billion years and temperature readings from only 111 years. That is not a large enough sample to base any conclusions on.
- scrubadub, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1Al Gore is trying to find a towel
- IraqManiac, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1who gives a flying *****
- KenMo, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1That does it for me. I'm convinced. I'm buying a Hybrid, and changing all of my light bulbs to florescent. Then I'm going to stop farting. That will stop global warming...
Wait.. it won't?
But if WE caused it, then we can stop it.
You mean global warming wasn't caused by us?
And I'm suppose to believe that we can't control hurricanes either? I mean if we can start and stop global warming (a world wide problem) by driving a SUV, then surely we can control a lousy hurricane, which by contrast is a much smaller phenomenon....
No??? Well how about a tornado?
Hmmm
Now I'm just plain funcused.
Talk amongst yourselves....


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