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- logicalnoise, on 10/10/2007, -2/+34captain planet just died of both a coronary and a stroke at the SAME TIME!
- The_Wallbanger, on 10/10/2007, -0/+20Check for yourself:
http://www.osc.state.ny.us/oilspill/photos/paragonoilboom.jpg
http://www.osc.state.ny.us/oilspill/photos/peerlessseep.jpg
http://www.osc.state.ny.us/oilspill/photos/sheenonriver.jpg - Authustian, on 10/10/2007, -1/+18So let me get this straight, it took New York State 29 YEARS to get Exxon to clean up their mess? I wonder if there are more of these spills around that they haven't gotten around to yet....
/we'***** - joerod, on 10/10/2007, -0/+17Newtown Creek is one of the most disgusting bodies of water I've ever seen.
- dorianh49, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14I used to work for a company that serviced ExxonMobil. They did all the groundwater and Underground Storage Tank monitoring, did Phase I Reports for their possible new locations, and generally just tried to keep the local ExxonMobil gas stations in compliance with the various Government Regulatory Agencies. This wasn't easy as ExxonMobil did not want to fork over the money to pay for any necessary cleanup, despite heavy fines that would be incurred daily for every day that a site remained out of compliance (a little bit of proactive-ness would have helped immensely, but that costs money, right?). As bad a company as Exxon appears on the outside, their just as evil from within. Sweatshop mentality, "beatings will continue until morale improves" kind of culture. Conference calls would routinely degress into shouting and swearing matches. Sadly, while colleagues in my office who serviced other, non-ExxonMobil clients got work a steady 8-to-10 hour-a-day schedule, 12-to-14 hour day schedules were the norm, with no extra incentive or pay to work those extra hours (except to keep your job).
Bottom line, as Amalgamutt indicated, pollution cleanup is absolute bottom priority for this company, but if you hit them HEAVILY in the pocketbook, and babysit them every step of the way, something just MIGHT get done. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8I hope Exxon can afford to clean this up....
- tidu, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Exxon probably forgot their contribution to the governor's candidacy for the first time in 29 years. If they were so kind as to donate to his campaign, they might have "forgotten" about the incident for another couple years.
- crweaks23, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6"Most Americans, including most New Yorkers, think of New York City as an ecological nightmare, a wasteland of concrete and garbage and diesel fumes and traffic jams, but in comparison with the rest of America it's a model of environmental responsibility. By the most significant measures, New York is the greenest community in the United States, and one of the greenest cities in the world. The most devastating damage humans have done to the environment has arisen from the heedless burning of fossil fuels, a category in which New Yorkers are practically prehistoric. The average Manhattanite consumes gasoline at a rate that the country as a whole hasn't matched since the mid-nineteen-twenties, when the most widely owned car in the United States was the Ford Model T. Eighty-two per cent of Manhattan residents travel to work by public transit, by bicycle, or on foot. That's ten times the rate for Americans in general, and eight times the rate for residents of Los Angeles County. New York City is more populous than all but eleven states; if it were granted statehood, it would rank 51st in per-capita energy use."
http://www.walkablestreets.com/manhattan.htm - wendelgee2, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Setting fire to it oughta raise awareness of the issue. Nothing solidified the Thames' reputation more than catching fire. /jk
- Seidoger, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Yeah, like they'd need to raise the prices more. The current prices were the "result of Katrina" or things like that.
What's this strong breeze outside? Oh don't you know? It's Katrina that's been cycloning over Exxon Mobil's installations for 2 years now! - wendelgee2, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5They're making billions every quarter, I think they can afford to be adults and clean up their mess.
- Travisx2, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5*****, I'll clean it up, That is $28,333,333 worth of crude!
(Est) - DestroyFascism, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4lol You know how it works....If New York finally wins Exxon declares bankruptcy and sells all assets to a New company called Exxon 2
- vanbacon, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Send in the petro eating bacteria/
- graemee, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5To the middle east please
- idonthack, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Just look at the graph on the left. Their stocks went up 50% in the past year alone.
Of course the bastards can afford it. - zaydon, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Because we hate driving cars and eating at Applebee's. Have you noticed we're general not fat either from all the walking we do?
- pyrotix, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Actually it wasn't until very recently that Exxon even paid up for Alaska, and it was widely believed that they would never have to write the check.
Now that it is fairly certain Exxon will have to pay in that case, the chances of New York actually seeing the money are much better. - Seidoger, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Money can do (and prevent) many things.. *****
- miriclaire, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Judge Judy would say you waited too long, and must have been quite content with the way things were.
- opsknight, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Well they better clean up every ounce. With has much as we pay at the pump due to ridiculous oil prices, they better not be wasting a single damn drop.
- ajmunson, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2There is a really great piece on this done by VBS (vice magazine). You can see it here:
http://vbs.tv/player.php?bccl=NzQxODkxOTgxX19ORVdT=&r=new - plizard, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2this is just like the skinny puppy song - hexonxonx
- dorianh49, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I know you're probably just being cute, but "Exxon-Valdez" is now considered an event, as opposed to the actual vessel that caused the Exxon-Valdez spill. If there were a headline that read "New York oil spill causes more deaths than 9/11", would you think that they were referring to 9/11 as a random date that stalks and kills people, or the event that took place on September 11, 2001?
So, 9/11 is considered an event the same way that Exxon-Valdez is considered an event. - majeo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2http://www.epa.gov/superfund/sites/index.htm
- saltmiser, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2sure glad I'm fit enough to bike everywhere
- Error601, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2A lot of big talk from the government guy that took 30 years to get around to it.
- Automatt, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Additional reading about Newtown Creek: http://www.sprol.com/?p=361
- UGM2099, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I need to stop making leisurely walks over the Pulaski bridge....
- Error601, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Good graph on the subject:
http://www.informaction.org/images/graph_oil-sources.jpg
Basically by far the biggest source of spills is individuals. - bkemper, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3"Exxon sued for spilling more oil in New York City than Exxon-Valdez"
Actually, I'm pretty sure the Exxon-Valdez didn't spill ANY oil in New York City.
Or perhaps this means that Exxon spilled less oil into the Exxon-Valdez than they did into New York City? - emericle, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1From the Article: "In February, Cuomo also filed notices of intent to sue BP Plc (BP.L: Quote, Profile , Research), Chevron Corp (CVX.N: Quote, Profile , Research), utility KeySpan Corp(KSE.N: Quote, Profile , Research) and mining company Phelps Dodge, which has since been acquired by Freeport-McMoRan (FCX.N: Quote, Profile , Research), over contamination in the creek. No suits have been filed against those companies yet, but a source close to the lawsuit said conversations were ongoing with the other companies."
what would be interesting to see is companies not dispute guilt, but truly show a commitment to the environment by ALL of them chipping in and cleaning up the body of water. Someday large corporations won't fight about indemnity, and just work towards making the world better.
someday - FlapJaw, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1It's all a plan fabricated by the Sons of Liberty. Operation Big Shell.
- hoovcluck, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I thought that was because of the pollution?
- DrJG, on 06/17/2009, -0/+1"I don't understand how people can still live in NYC."
Because of all the other wonderful people. That is how cities grow. It is called civilisation. - nodonoug, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1wow
- DestroyFascism, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Dad always said there was money in *****! I am in Environmental science, we probably spoke on the phone :)
- Vagari, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Amanda Congdon did a piece on this that I linked to almost a year ago. I hope they ACTUALLY clean that crap up.
http://digg.com/environment/Newtown_Creek_Video_from_Amanda_Across_America
p.s. I've successfully not filled up at an Exxon or Mobil station for a couple years. :) - VSLOATHE, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1The cleanup won't be all that bad. At any given time, there is 2-3x that much petroleum sitting in underground storage tanks throughout New York City. Microbes can be released in the groundwater for miles along with installing oil water separators. I've worked in the environmental industry for years, it won't be that big a deal even if they do have to clean it up.
By the way, if they do have to clean it up, my company will probably be the one to do it as Exxon Mobil is our biggest client. - VSLOATHE, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I work for an environmental engineering firm, and that's what we usually do. Our biggest client is Exxon Mobil.
- unitedstatians, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1On a IBM website ''Many Eyes" a featured visualization proves your case 10 fold, it's called "U.S. Gasoline Per Capita Use by State (2004)". New York is leading, on least petroleum consumption per capita use by state of any state even CA, and MA. Uses as it source Energy Information Administration. http://services.alphaworks.ibm.com/manyeyes/view/SijkhHsOtha6xl-edZhqH2-
- darny, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1You've obviously never seen the Gowanus! :)
- darny, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1...aaaaaaaaaaaaaand exxon-mobil is up $1.50 at days end.
- orca94, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3Well you've given me at least one reason to think you're an idiot.
- vio3, on 02/23/2009, -0/+1This is why drilling in the Arctic is so dangerous for the environment and those who inhabit those waters other than humans. And this is why I'm against drilling where the wildlife and ocean life should be protected and not put in danger, just because we want to drive our cars using American petrol and want to save money on gas.
Invest all that money on alternative fuel sources, and stop with the oil. How many more spills can nature, the oceans and life can endure without completely dying out? In 2008 after the tons and tons of the huge oil spill off the coast in San Francisco I took part in trying rescue the animals, the sea birds...all covered in thick petroleum and this stuff doesn't just come off by using soap and water. It's stuck on them like tar in someone's hair and won't come off completely. So many died in the process :((( And the ones who survived, will probably never be the same again. - misfit410, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1New York? probally did a few millions worth of improvement.
- HairyFotr, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Now we only have a backup captain planet, who can only take pollution down to two thirds. What now?
- MTDyer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0There's a new book coming out this fall that details the unbelievable economic and human impact, beyond the obvious environmental ones, that continue to plague Alaska as a result of Valdez and failed policy. Written by a PhD Marine Biologist Riki Ott, "Not One Drop" is the title.
- darny, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1what the did was wait 30 years for the newtown plume to spread out and engulf any other plumes that might be lurking under the city, this way they can suck it all up in one shot and stick one company with the bill.
- Error601, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1People digg down facts...fascinating.
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