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- hydroplane, on 10/30/2007, -1/+30Begun the Water Wars have...
- 93south, on 11/01/2007, -1/+28I'm not sure why this is not covered in the news more than it is right now?
- inactive, on 10/30/2007, -5/+25let them drink coke...
- meshman, on 10/30/2007, -3/+17Keep watering that artificial turf. Nothing, not even life, is more important.
- bloqmon, on 10/30/2007, -3/+17You might want to look into how much desalination costs before you start calling people morons. It is extremely cost inefficient. Only countries like Saudi Arabia that have money bursting from their burkas afford it.
- johndi, on 11/01/2007, -2/+12Even if all households stopped using water the savings would pale in comparison to half arsed attempts by the agri-corps. Sure it sucks to see people being wasteful, but what sucks even more is knowing we're stuck with low flow water showerheads and low flush toilets while agriculture gets to waste more water than household, commercial, and industrial use put together.
- alastria, on 10/30/2007, -1/+10There's no salt water when you're 300 miles inland. *rolls eyes*
- Tomboys, on 11/01/2007, -3/+11This is really important! And the Southwest is next. I live in Los Angeles and I am constantly annoyed with the way people here waist water. Gardners use the hose instead of a broom to clean driveways... etc. etc. etc. It makes me crazy!
- internetcoward, on 10/29/2007, -0/+8I am in NC and it is all over the place, and has been for a long time. Some towns are out of water here and basically every city has some sort of restriction on water use.
- wageslaven, on 10/29/2007, -1/+9No humans are at risk here. The battle is between ridiculous waste or Mussels. Not drinking water and mussels.
Raise the price of water, ban bottled water imports, outlaw outdoor watering, institute mandator municipal home water retention, change the builiding codes to stop flushing toilets with drinking water, change the building codes to totally slash water use in every regard... and on and on.
And then, when you've done all that, we can talk about if this is a "water for humans" issue or a empty headed, selfish, wasteful americans issue. The mussels shouldnt be devestated because the television demands people have green lawns.
Its time to realize that *all* that waste needs to fcuking go. Watering lawns is just the beginning. We've built a culture on top of cheap oil and plentiful natural resources -- that's about to stop. Its time to start thinking with our heads. - whiteninja, on 10/29/2007, -0/+7Yeah, that pissed me off. Why the ***** would anyone need a 500,000 dollar boat? And to top it off expect to get sympathy when you wreck it. Go drive your boat on a river of tears, my friend. A RIVER OF TEARS!
- DaDiggCode, on 10/29/2007, -2/+9I take 5 baths a day with the bath tub filled to the top, leave the water running when i brush my teeth / floss / shave / look at myself in the mirror and wash my car every 4 days because you can't have a dirty car in LA (its not "cool")
- eekthekat, on 10/29/2007, -1/+7The real problem here isn't that there is not enough water coming into the lake it's that the lake, and many in this region, have been mishandled for years by the Army Corps of engineers.
The problem here is policy and management not politics or business. - wifirewire2, on 10/29/2007, -3/+8FTA - "There's this guy who'd just bought a 500,000-dollar boat, tried it out and hit a reef. It was a total loss," ....Only in Georgia
- Red_Eye, on 10/29/2007, -2/+7Because it would be unpopular to cut off water to an endangered mussel or unforking branch Alabamans. Sorry if that sounds bitter but as a person who has not been able to water anything all summer I am bitter. The thing is while we are doing our part neither of our neighbors are doing anything. They still get the same amount of water no matter how tight our watering bans get (over half the State of Georgia cant use any outside water for watering plants lawns or washing cars or even hosing dirt off our walkways). Meanwhile our neighbors REFUSE to cut their use.
On a side note with the bottom of so many reservoirs showing in the state of GA i cant think of a better time to deepen them by digging. Move that dirt faster than hell to higher ground. Our own county (Carroll) which was the first to enact a total watering ban, had already planned on dredging one of our reservoirs this year to increase capacity They should have every earth mover available to us out there on lake Carroll moving as many tons of that dirt as they can every day. Do they? Noooo....
Personally I would support the gov calling out the National Guard, shutting down the spillways and telling the Feds and the Florida mussels and the Alabama Gov to go take a flying @#$ and dig their own bloody reservoirs. - sensoukami, on 10/29/2007, -1/+5I'll get buried for this, but isn't this just an invetible consequence of under-pricing water for a very very long time?
Under pricing leads to overconsumption. It also kills an incentive to conserve. I recall reading that huge amount of water in irrigated farming is wasted through leaky pipes. Farmers don't fix the pips. Why not? Too expensive, water is cheap. Advanced irrigation systems Too expensive, water is cheap. By handing out water for nothing, we are subsidising swimming pools, golf courses, and people who was their sports car 4 times a week.
By all means, lets ensure that people can get there basically living needs covered for nothing, but we've gone too far in the other direction. Water is a scarce resource that needs to be priced appropriately... - TheSwashbuckler, on 10/29/2007, -4/+8Georgia's paying the price for not taking water management seriously. Why should Alabama and Florida pay for Georgia's incompetence?
- inactive, on 10/30/2007, -3/+7I submitted a story about this a few days ago, maybe 100+ diggs, but no FP. So I'm trying again to get the word out.
- mtotheatt, on 10/30/2007, -1/+5A lot of people think it's Atlanta that has mis-managed water...like Atlanta is hoarding all the water and not letting it get down-stream. The reality is that Lake Lanier only gets about 5% of the runoff from the watershed it is part of and was intended as a water reservoir for Atlanta, but has become one for the whole watershed.
http://www.lawrencevilleweather.com/blog/2007/10/w ...
Yet Alabama and Florida expect this to provide for them during times of drought, because they never planned for a backup? If Atlanta had not built the lake, Alabama and Florida would have a much worse drought right now (and so would Atlanta). That doesn't mean water should no longer be released for them. But planning for the future may need to include reservoirs elsewhere. Lake Lanier was built for Atlanta growth, not as a backup for the entire southeast. Which poses the question...what would have happened to the mussels if there were no man-made lake? - wageslaven, on 10/30/2007, -1/+5I agree, they should drink Brawndo. It has Electrolytes! Fcukin A!
- inactive, on 10/30/2007, -0/+4They are trying to do that but it's not really effective yet.
"Large-scale desalination typically requires large amounts of energy as well as specialized, expensive infrastructure, making it very costly compared to the use of fresh water from rivers or groundwater. " - Wikipedia
Moran! - NeoCortex, on 10/29/2007, -1/+5Well. the rest of the country is still paying for Florida's incompetence when it comes to counting votes.
- crash331, on 10/29/2007, -0/+3I drive over Lake Allatoona everyday and it is the lowest I have seen it since I have been alive (I'm 23). The outlook is getting pretty grim here, but I don't think most people realize how serious it is.
- KokomoNYC, on 10/29/2007, -1/+4"So if I do this, you'll stop stealing my water?"
- betterth, on 10/29/2007, -1/+4Terrible idea, still using tons of water, but instead of hydrating, it's dehydrating lol.
- schnikies79, on 10/29/2007, -2/+5They already have desalinization plants, but not enough.
- Ub3rg33k, on 10/29/2007, -0/+3Lanier isn't 1000ft deep, its 1000ft AMSL (above mean sea level). When they say that the lake is down to 1,056 feet, they mean as measured above sea level. The lake only has a max depth of 160ft. Most spots are around 20-30ft deep.
- julianvs, on 10/29/2007, -0/+3BAN GOLF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- inactive, on 11/01/2007, -1/+4You must live in Houston. People there could care less about water usage.
- viserov, on 10/29/2007, -0/+3I agree with you that we (I live in Georgia) wouldn't be in this mess had our government handled our water resources more efficiently ... but did you just say that lack of water for humans was only an inconvenience?
- wageslaven, on 10/29/2007, -3/+6"not been able to water anything all summer I am bitter."
Clearly, you planted the wrong plants for your climate. You know that plants evolved -- right there where you are -- to match the ecosystem exactly. If you are watering, you have already failed.
This article has framed the debate totally incorrectly. The title should be:
"Arrogant, Selfish and Wasteful unsustainable cosmetics battle with our shared nature". - TheSwashbuckler, on 10/29/2007, -0/+3"but did you just say that lack of water for humans was only an inconvenience?"
Not being able to water lawns is an inconvenience.
Not being able to water ski is an inconvenience (to society as a whole).
etc. - Seidoger, on 10/29/2007, -1/+3Full of mercury
- Seidoger, on 10/29/2007, -0/+2Also beer requires 4 times the volume in water to make if I remember correctly.
(Why all those college-type jokes about 'Save water, drink beer' make me giggle, ya right) - betterth, on 10/29/2007, -1/+3It's FP a couple of times with the whole GA/FL/AL issues.
- Seidoger, on 10/29/2007, -0/+2Yeah digg the messenger down, but the facts remain.
- JAGUART, on 10/30/2007, -3/+5In the immortal words of Sam Kinson- "MOVE WHERE THE WATER IS"
- evilregis, on 10/29/2007, -1/+3Worst of all... it's... it's affecting... my god... the Jack Daniel's Distillerty! Stop the madness!
http://www.wbko.com/news/headlines/7955482.html - viserov, on 10/30/2007, -1/+3Nobody messes with Adam We
- 0crabby0, on 10/30/2007, -1/+3 You've got your information wrong - And you are flying off the handle at your neighbors.
Is that really a good thing to do when you're thirsty?
"All three Governors (Alabama: Bob Riley, Florida: Charlie Crist, Georgia: Sonny Perdue) are scheduled to meet next Thursday, November 1st, in Washington to discuss the situation."
A few facts: Atlanta hasn't built a new reservoir in 40 years.
Atlanta's water system is currently leaking around 14 percent of it's capacity a day.
In the 90's you asked to build a pipeline to pipe water from Alabama(The Tennessee River) to Atlanta - Yet you failed to do environmental studies needed for the pipeline and canceled the project when the drought was over .
My city (located in Alabama) cut their water use this Spring, and last Fall earlier in the drought - Pity your enlightened city of Atlanta, did not do the same.
Let your lawn die - You should have done a little research and planted Buffalo grass like everyone else.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buchloe_dactyloides - jhshukla, on 10/29/2007, -1/+3how do you waist water?
- Ub3rg33k, on 10/29/2007, -0/+2I'm talking about Alabama. Do some research on your friends to the north and their stance on the issue. They're the one's screwing you over. They have no watering restrictions and refuse to take them on.
- Grumps, on 10/29/2007, -0/+2Still remember how those stupid hockey player water their field before their PRACTICE? Keep wasting those water and soon they will be licking the field for water.
- Homunculiheaded, on 10/29/2007, -0/+2furthermore caffeinated drinks, while diuretic, do not actually cause a net loss in bodily fluids. They do cause the body to release urine, but it is not more liquid then the total volume of the drink consumed. So if you drank only coffee and coke you would simply get less hydration per drink than someone who drinks only water. Unless you were in extreme circumstances that required rapid hydration (running a marathon, stuck in the desert, etc) you would never suffer dehydration from consuming caffeinated beverages.
- TheSwashbuckler, on 10/29/2007, -1/+3The REAL problem is uncontrolled growth and water usage in Georgia despite warnings FOR YEARS that a drought could cause the problems that Georgia is now seeing.
- Pilot85, on 10/29/2007, -2/+4...we're gonna be seeing more of this, and worse, in the near future, aren't we?
- kraftyballs, on 10/29/2007, -0/+1This reminds me of Tank Girl
- TheSwashbuckler, on 10/29/2007, -1/+2Untrue. If you had paid attention at all over the last SIX YEARS, Bush did win the vote in Florida.
Sad, but true... - TheSwashbuckler, on 10/29/2007, -2/+3"What you have to understand is we are under severe restrictions and they REFUSE to impose like restrictions on their own usage."
ROFLMAO!!!
Dude, I LIVE in Florida. I've been living under water restrictions for YEARS.
You don't know WTF you're talking about... - i208khonsu, on 10/29/2007, -0/+1Where is a hurricane when you need one?
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