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- noupsell, on 06/24/2009, -6/+19Their plan is simple... help California become 'One with the Ocean'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flat_eq_map_anot ... - barc0001, on 06/26/2009, -2/+14Did you even read the damned article? Everyone in Switzerland, including the company's own geologists all agreed that they caused an earthquake, and they paid out 8 million dollars to fix the damages.
- noupsell, on 06/24/2009, -1/+10hmmmm where should we drill?
Latest Earthquakes in the USA - Last 7 days
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsus/ - yocouchdigga, on 06/26/2009, -0/+9"Here in this hopeless ***** hole we call LA
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away." - Rapax, on 06/26/2009, -3/+12This is such a load of fearmongering *****. The project in Basel, Switzerland (just 50km from where I live, btw) did trigger some small tremors, but nothing big enough to actually cause concern. The project failed due to a terrible job done by their PR guys, who publicly stated that there 'will be no earthquakes'. No self-respecting engineer or seismologist would ever have signed that statement.
What they should have said is something like: "There may be small tremors, but the chance of quakes capable of causing damage are very small. Besides, even if they do happen, we are sufficiently covered, and our insurance will pay for any damage." - zoom1928, on 06/25/2009, -2/+9What an insane claim. So how is geo-thermal power non-renewable? You think the center of the Earth is going to become room temperature because we pull a little heat out? You obviously don't have a science background.
- philodygmn, on 06/24/2009, -4/+11^
in a report on seismic impact that AltaRock was required to file, the company failed to mention that the Basel program was shut down because of the earthquake it caused. AltaRock claimed it was uncertain that the project had caused the quake, even though Swiss government seismologists and officials on the Basel project agreed that it did. Nor did AltaRock mention the thousands of smaller earthquakes induced by the Basel project that continued for months after it shut down.
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Yet another non-renewable racket, and one of the highest-risk yet. - BigManOnCampus, on 06/25/2009, -2/+7Geo Thermal is renewable so long as the moon circles the earth (friction from tidal forces on the earth help keep it warm inside)
- yaosio, on 06/26/2009, -1/+6I dug a hole in my backyard one time and my state collapsed into it.
- Rhodamine, on 06/26/2009, -1/+6BigMan - just a small correction
Heat within the Earth is generated predominantly from the radioactive decay of unstable elements deep within. Most of this is from long lived radioactive isotopes of Uranium, Thorium, and Potassium. There is also some residual heat retained from accretion of mass and compaction.
Tidal forces- not so much.
The tectonic activity is the result of the uneven distribution of heat below the crust. A bit like a very, very, very slow boil - but slower. - banik2008, on 06/26/2009, -1/+5You certainly did not say "sustainable", *****, you said "non-renewable". ***** indeed.
- mrferg, on 06/26/2009, -0/+3Max Zorin is alive?
- Killbot2015, on 06/26/2009, -0/+37.0 now or 10.0 later it's not like we can actually stop it.
- bman1984, on 06/26/2009, -0/+3learn to swim
- scyphozoa, on 06/26/2009, -0/+3DRILL THE FAULT LINE - DO IT I DARE YA
- LordByr0n, on 06/26/2009, -0/+3Actually we are trying to save the planet. The whole point of drilling so deep is to tap into the heat energy from the earths core, thus making us less reliable on oil for energy. It is actually a brilliant concept and we have the means in which to do it so why not? Yes these earthquakes are a bit of an issue, now, but humans tend to
persiveer.(<--Spelling?) - wjappe, on 06/26/2009, -0/+2I wasn't trying to put California down, I was trying to be sarcastic. Why take chances? Yes a earthquake may happen sooner or later but why rush it?
- TauQuebb, on 06/26/2009, -1/+3The stresses caused here are insignificent on the scale of plate tectonics, this is very highly unlikely to trigger a slip along the San Andreas fault.
- inactive, on 06/26/2009, -0/+2Did you read the article?
The part where most of Switzerland (including AltaRock's contractor over there and government scientists) agree that they caused earthquake?
I'd like you to provide something similar for the LHC. - Rapax, on 06/26/2009, -0/+2They're not drilling for oil. This is for geothermal energy.
- aegis17, on 06/26/2009, -0/+2Surprise! The best place to dig deep is where the tectonic plates are thinnest! Who would have guessed?
I know. Let's start digging from the top of Mount Everest. That'll be much safer! - VitriolAndAngst, on 06/26/2009, -2/+4As much as I'm a consumer advocate and wary of companies that get cheap resources without paying their fair share -- I don't see this "triggering earthquakes" as a bad thing.
The drilling doesn't CREATE the tension that results in earthquakes. The only question is; does it make them worse?
It's probably a good way to release tectonic pressure if it causes an earthquake. California is on a shifting plate -- and it's either going to be a few large quakes or lots of little ones.
>> I'd appreciate it if the news focused on the million actual bad things being done, rather than distract us with the ranting of some old fool. The Oil drilling is probably unnecessary since we will either be on alternative fuels by the time this oil hits market -- or they will need under water rigs. - altgeeky1, on 06/26/2009, -0/+2That's why conservatives love energy companies!
- alexacastrato, on 06/26/2009, -0/+2Except there is an INSANE amount of stress on the San Andreas fault, and it could very well trigger "the big one" that's been long overdue for decades.
- Swivelstick, on 06/26/2009, -2/+4Smoking does not cause cancer.
- sodoh, on 06/26/2009, -1/+3From reading the article and around, it appears that there is evidence that this company was responsible for earthquakes. The company itself denies it and *forgot* to add the investigation to a report.
- philodygmn, on 06/27/2009, -0/+1^
You certainly did not say "sustainable", *****, you said "non-renewable". ***** indeed.
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*lol* Because non-renewability is sooooo sustainable! If you've figured how to make something that's not even renewable in the first place sustainable, I invite you to write the business plans for the technologies with which you're going to turn the world inside-out and presumably rake in trillions upon trillions of dollars! Losing, ***** fool. Sure, I used the word non-renewable, _because that's even less_ sustainable than "un-"sustainable! It's the _ultimate definition_ of unsustainable! What I _said_ _was_ sustainability, even if I never used the words -- oh, but that would require a mind to _understand_ what was said instead of a bird-brain throwing an exception based on vocabulary. Maybe Digg has started attracting chatbot griefers for some mischevious hacker's bemusement, because that response is so brain-dead it can't possibly have come from a functional human. - alexacastrato, on 06/26/2009, -0/+1I'm pretty sure we don't need a 7.0 earthquake triggered.
- waspbr, on 06/26/2009, -0/+1I did, but the tremor in switzerland was localized, it did not have any effects onto the fault line itself, just on the local rocks, still reckon it is FUD, they are just blowing things out of proportion
- handheldchimp, on 06/26/2009, -0/+1Damn that was you?
- wrek, on 06/26/2009, -0/+1Sounds like a Clive Cussler novel...
- Thorpe, on 06/26/2009, -0/+1Cool, thanks. I've learnt a valuable lesson.
- inactive, on 06/28/2009, -0/+1This is horse manure. Drill a hole, what maybe a foot or two round. A few thousand feet deep. You will still have miles and miles of rock in all directions supporting the surface. The NYtimes is fear mongering on a grand scale here. Its absolute non-sense!
- Synova, on 06/26/2009, -0/+1Christopher Walken is at it again! Quick, someone call Roger Moore.
- LBWayward, on 06/26/2009, -1/+1An earthquake is inevitable. The sooner it happens, the smaller it will be.
- TauQuebb, on 06/26/2009, -3/+3This is just all scaremongering, the earthquakes they are talking about are very small, even the UK has earthquakes in the magnitudes they are predicting, a magnitude 4 is not half as powerful as a magnitude 8, it is 0.0001 (1/10000), the scale is logarithmic.
- LordByr0n, on 06/26/2009, -1/+1Did you read the article?
- BigManOnCampus, on 06/24/2009, -14/+15This is pure fud; FEAR, UNCERTAINTY, DOUBT.
The entire fear is based on the fact that the people who are trying this method to tap into the earth's heat for energy cannot conclusively prove that their method *will not* cause earthquakes. That is not where the burden of proof lies. There is no proof that it ever *did* cause an earthquake.
Earthquakes *will* happen regardless of whether or not this method of power generation is attempted, and improved building research/codes and preparedness are the only-proven-methods of mitigating the risks of earthquakes.
I say let them try, and f-off to anyone who wants to cower in fear at "what might happen" - acknotSW, on 06/26/2009, -1/+1As much as I enjoy the thought of that cesspool called Hollywood falling into the ocean, maybe California isn't the best state to use this technology.
- levitron, on 06/25/2009, -1/+1Dunno about the science, but that was a fun CG walkthru.
- inactive, on 06/26/2009, -1/+1Let me revise my statement:
We don't need the ENERGY. We can always just buy it from our good friends in HatesAmerica-stan.
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Jesus! This ***** was in the NY Times? - yaosio, on 06/26/2009, -2/+1You have not proven your posting is not retarded, so stop posting.
- ShingoEX, on 06/26/2009, -6/+6I take it you enjoy Russian roulette?
- waspbr, on 06/26/2009, -3/+2yeah, and the LHC is going to generate black holes that are going to consume the Earth. Unless there is scientific data to support that the drilling could have any effect on a fault line then this article is pure FUD.
It's not like someone decided where drill by throwing a dart at a map, any drill is done after a series of geological studies.It is very possible that the bad press this is getting is a lobby from the fossil fuel energy industry. - blogginginc, on 06/26/2009, -3/+2This has gone too far.....alternative energies now !
- jcpudd, on 06/24/2009, -7/+6Are you surprised? Their CEO is Lex Luther.
- inactive, on 06/26/2009, -2/+1Learn to use a ***** apostrophe.
- dstz, on 06/26/2009, -4/+2Human activity triggering a major earthquake is so impossible it tells a lot in people willing to believe this *****.
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