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- kgrandia, on 12/13/2007, -13/+37And its comments like this that make me even more motivated. Thanks!
- bot001220, on 12/13/2007, -11/+26Your username is fitting.
- 1337zork, on 12/13/2007, -1/+14We could use some more summer here in Denmark, not always so cold and dull. *begins to burn some batteries*
- sotopheavy, on 12/13/2007, -8/+19Only 35 min left. Has anyone actually read this petition or did somebody slap gore's picture on a double Guantanamo petition?
- treecha02, on 12/13/2007, -13/+23i wish i could digg you down more than once.
- chris9902, on 12/13/2007, -8/+18I'll sign it when Gore stops flying around the world in a private jet.
- galapagos, on 12/13/2007, -6/+15i get angry when people try to help the environment
- EuphopiaB, on 12/13/2007, -1/+10Clearly you are funded by big-oil to kill Bambi and turn her heart into money.
- jboi, on 12/13/2007, -2/+10Global warming or not, that is not the point.
Bali also brings clean air, less pollution, less sickness, technological innovation ...
They are starting to build passive houses, hybrid engines, engines with 115hp that run on 4l/100km , how cool is that! - wastedlife, on 12/13/2007, -3/+11Submitted: 5 hr 15 min ago, made popular 26 min ago.
Maybe you should've submitted this when we could have had more than 5 hours to sign it... - inactive, on 12/13/2007, -2/+9He doesn't, hes carried aloft by a balloon that's filled with methane gas emitting his *****.
- zeromancer, on 12/13/2007, -2/+8too late.
edit: sorry. i was stuck in the future. i'm just waiting for the west coast to catch up. - FiringPin, on 12/13/2007, -5/+10Where's the Kool-Aid first?
- inactive, on 12/13/2007, -5/+10This is not a political issue at all
- csapdani, on 12/13/2007, -5/+10Signed.
- Swarms, on 12/13/2007, -2/+7That is part of the big pictures. I'm all for cutting pollution, using cleaner energy etc...but I'm not going to be told to do it by someone who can't even carpool. These activists fly around in their jets all day promoting conservation, causing more pollution than I probably will all year. It's like if you had a millionaire telling someone with a few pennies they need to give them away. You'd all say "screw you, give some of yours away first. You can do so much more to help than I can."
- CoRP5e, on 12/13/2007, -9/+14manbearpig?
- vwvan, on 12/13/2007, -2/+6done.
- doctorfungi, on 12/13/2007, -16/+20I am as conservative as they come, and I urge you all to sign this petition.
- Super6, on 12/13/2007, -0/+4Yes, it's great that he offsets his carbon use by buying carbon credits from HIS OWN company
- rjlmason, on 12/13/2007, -3/+7Direct link - http://www.climateprotect.org/standwithal
- catalytica, on 12/13/2007, -6/+10what's with all the diggers who hate the planet and get so pissy about a stupid internet petition? don't you have better things to do than troll the environment section of digg and spread lies and misinformation? Is this what EXXON-MOBILE is paying you to do all day? What a pathetic life.
- stupidStan, on 12/13/2007, -2/+6Who's that you speak of? You surely can't be referring to our boy Al...
- Gir53457, on 12/13/2007, -11/+14Even if you choose to ignore the mounting evidence of global warming, you can't ignore the devastating effect of pollution on our beautiful country, our world.
- kiwifish, on 12/13/2007, -1/+4I think your views represent a common misconception, and I'll try and explain why. The climate system is, mathematically, a chaotic system – note that "chaos" in mathematics doesn't just mean "totally unpredictable, dude". Chaos is a very specific phenomena, and one of its characteristics is sensitivity to initial conditions of an individual trajectory. What that means is that making concrete predictions about *local* weather phenomena becomes exponentially difficult in time. In fact, it will always be impossible to predict the weather beyond a relatively short period of time because of this. We'll never be able to say "It's going to rain next in London in exactly 3 weeks, 2 days and 4 hours" (Aw heck, that's because we never go that long without rain here!).
So, I'm professing ignorance! That means I can't possibly know what's going to happen in 30 years! Well, sort of true – I'm never going to know whether it's going to be sunny in some particular spot – but I'm not interested in that. I'm interested in "Statistically speaking, what is the weather going to be like, globally". That's a completely different question. And we go back to chaos theory, where we find that *statistical* questions are actually very well characterized. This is something similar to a phenomenon called "attractors" (which, by the way, produce some beautiful patterns: http://www.bairdy.com/processing/strangeattractor/ ...
Well, anyway, I hope that's gone some way to explaining why weather.com's inability to predict the rain on your last fishing holiday, is a red herring when it comes to long term statistical predictions of the global climate system. - lee85il, on 12/13/2007, -5/+8Wow this is getting crazy. If you paid attention in science class you would understand the the earth goes though warm and cold eras. The earth gets hot by a number a gases in our atmosphere, which in turn melts the ice caps. Then the larger amount of water begins to cool the planet, which you then begin a decent into cooling, which "could" end in an ice age. It is the natural cycles of Earth. Yes global warming is real, and yes we do contribute to it, but the earth will recoup on it own cycle. I do see a lot of very good advances coming from this petition as far as scientific advances, but to headline it with the prevention of global warming is ridiculous.
- euvirtual, on 12/13/2007, -4/+7Yeah. I'll sign it when it's too late too.
- shig, on 12/13/2007, -0/+3"There is no evidence that carbon dioxide increases are having any affect whatsoever on the climate. All the science of the IPCC is unsound. I have come to this conclusion after a very long time. If you examine every single proposition of the IPCC thoroughly, you find that the science somewhere fails...It fails not only from the data, but it fails in the statistics, and the mathematics." - Dr. Vincent Gray of New Zealand, UN IPCC reviewer and climate researcher who shares in the Nobel Prize awarded to the UN IPCC, an expert reviewer on every single draft of the IPCC reports since its inception going back to 1990.
You could say he's not a mathematician, so;
"We have a split here. Official science driven by politics, money and power, goes in one direction. Unofficial science, which is more determined by what is actually happening with the [climate] data, has now started to move off in a different direction, away from fears of a man-made climate crisis. The two are splitting. This is always a dangerous time for science and a dangerous time for politics. Historically science always wins these battles but there can be a lot of causalities and a lot of time in between." - Dr. David Evans, Australian scientist and mathematician who did carbon accounting for the Australian government, recently converted to a skeptical scientist about man-made global warming after reviewing the new scientific studies. - shadowpr0ph3t, on 12/13/2007, -1/+4Whatever. Just wait till it happens, then what?
But even if this global warming is BS, making the world a cleaner and better place to live in is bad? But I guess your all for pollution. - repoulin, on 12/13/2007, -9/+12Oh boy! I see diggers really taking action on this! I think you would have better luck throwing in a naked picture. Buried
- gdungan, on 12/13/2007, -11/+13guys sign this...I'm suuuper cereal
but really...this is important
excelsior!!! - chris9902, on 12/13/2007, -1/+3What bigger picture? He is a power obsessed hypocrite who has started the latest celebrity religion.
I walk to work, I don't fly on planes, I recycle and I use those crappy energy saving bulbs that make your house looks like a poorly lit back ally. I'm not going to listen to some jumped up millionaire and his rich friends talk about how we are all going to die if we don't do what they say while they fly around the world polluting it more in a day than I do all year. - megarobotguy, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2Since the technology is new obvisouly it's going to cost more. Manufacturing innovations to cut cost usually comes last. As long as the demand is there hopefully the technology will improve and eventually cut cost in manufacturing. Marketing strategy and money making venture, why not? How do you get your ideas out there and improve on certain innovations dealing with solar, wind, and bio fuel without marketing them?
- megarobotguy, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2Wow you are a moron. It's just an online petition. Calm down. Use a fake name if you want. This guy must be new to online petitions. All it really does is help spread the word.
- lee85il, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2LOL War on Global Warming. send the troops to the atmosphere.
- spyd3rweb, on 12/13/2007, -7/+9I'll sign it when it is proven beyond a doubt that CO2 emissions are causing climate change and something else.
- shadowpr0ph3t, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2Screw YOU!!!!!!!!!!!
- kiwifish, on 12/13/2007, -1/+3Oh, I'm getting dugg down? I'd like to know why – is it because you contest the report ( http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar4/syr/a ... ) Or do you think that >90% probability is not enough to warrant immediate action? in which case, what would be enough? 95%? 99%?
Please understand, I'm not trying to troll or anything. I'd just like to understand the views of those that hit the red thumbs down! - MacSuxWindozSux, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2I felt like being direct.
- StephenCIreland, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2damn it i was gonna say all that
- staffrocket, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2Is he super serial?
- chris9902, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2that's not what your mom keeps telling me.
- inactive, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2I know, the whole thing is a misnomer anyway. Its not "save the world" its "save the humans"!
- Scruffydan, on 12/13/2007, -7/+9The sooner people realize that environmentalism is both a left and right wing issue the better.
- stupidStan, on 12/13/2007, -2/+4wow... that makes no sense at all - you are an idiot
btw, I am in kuwait now working for the army, so shut up and screw Gore - spyd3rweb, on 12/13/2007, -2/+4*and not something else. (broken comment system)
- shig, on 12/13/2007, -1/+3"UN organizers refused my credentials and appeared desperate that I should not come to this conference. They have also made several attempts to interfere with our public meetings." - Christopher Monckton, a representative of the New Zealand Climate Science Coalition, climate researcher and former British government cabinet member
"There is no evidence that carbon dioxide increases are having any affect whatsoever on the climate. All the science of the IPCC is unsound. I have come to this conclusion after a very long time. If you examine every single proposition of the IPCC thoroughly, you find that the science somewhere fails...It fails not only from the data, but it fails in the statistics, and the mathematics." - Dr. Vincent Gray of New Zealand, UN IPCC reviewer and climate researcher who shares in the Nobel Prize awarded to the UN IPCC, an expert reviewer on every single draft of the IPCC reports since its inception going back to 1990.
"We have a split here. Official science driven by politics, money and power, goes in one direction. Unofficial science, which is more determined by what is actually happening with the [climate] data, has now started to move off in a different direction, away from fears of a man-made climate crisis. The two are splitting. This is always a dangerous time for science and a dangerous time for politics. Historically science always wins these battles but there can be a lot of causalities and a lot of time in between." - Dr. David Evans, Australian scientist and mathematician who did carbon accounting for the Australian government, recently converted to a skeptical scientist about man-made global warming after reviewing the new scientific studies.
"I am an energy engineer and I know something about electricity trading and I know enough about carbon trading and the inaccuracies of carbon trading to know that carbon trading is more about fraud than it is about anything else. We should probably ask why we have 10,000 people here [in Bali] in a futile attempt to ‘solve' a [climate] problem that probably does not exist." - Bryan Leyland of New Zealand and representative of the International Climate Science Coalition
"I don't think this conference can actually achieve anything because it seems to be saying that we are going to draw up one protocol for every country in the world to follow. Now these countries and these economies are so diverse that trying to presume you can put all of these feet into one shoe will simply not work. Having the same set of rules apply to everybody will blow some economies apart totally while others will be unscathed and I wouldn't be surprised if the ones who remain unscathed are the ones who write the rules." - Owen McShane, of the International Climate Science Coalition
"My message is specifically for the poor people of Africa. And there is nothing happening at this conference that can help them one little bit but there is the potential that they could be damaged. The government and people of Africa will have their attention drawn to reducing climate change instead of reducing poverty." - Dr. William Alexander, Emeritus Professor of the University of Pretoria in South Africa and a former member of the United Nations Scientific and Technical Committee on Natural Disasters
My long post vs your long post
I figure my long post includes the statements of actual scientist of notable standing. It also comes straight from the conference and doesn't reference 6 year old policy statements. So my post beats your post 3-0. - JonGalt, on 12/13/2007, -2/+4Dont worry man some people agree with you. BURIED because of climate religion.
- SHOVELLit, on 12/13/2007, -3/+4If you want to get rid of manbearpig, sign the dam petition.
- aceslick911, on 12/13/2007, -0/+1metricsss
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