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- astyguy, on 12/13/2008, -4/+16Congressman needs time to transfer money to buy shares in wind farm company .... also to receive nice big back hander from wind farm company
p.s Mr Congressman dont sue me this is a joke and should be treated as such under article 7 subsection 4 paragraph 3 - szollman, on 12/14/2008, -2/+1287% should trump one person
- PrintScrn12, on 12/14/2008, -0/+10I'd think a coal power plant is uglier and much more harmful overall.
- NixiePixel, on 12/13/2008, -1/+11So is he claiming there is going to be an environmental impact, and it requires further study? What do the environmentalist groups say about this? The article isn't clear...
- tbhurst, on 12/14/2008, -2/+11FTA: Oberstar sent a letter "requesting an extension of at least 60 days to conduct a public comment period to gauge opinion on the wind farm’s potential impact on marine radar and safety."
This thing has dragged on long enough, there have been two complete environmental impact studies which included several opportunities for the public to weigh-in at public meetings, via written statements, online, in the press, etc. - BrandonEagan, on 12/14/2008, -0/+9Minnesota =/= Massachusetts
Geography fail - handsomehellvis, on 12/14/2008, -1/+9what a piece of *****. i tried to email him from his website but its blocked to people outside his district. a-hole.
- tbhurst, on 12/14/2008, -0/+7I would like to see it. And I've spent many, many days at the beach swimming in Nantucket Sound. Bank St. Beach in Harwichport if you want to be specific.
- hawkspur, on 12/14/2008, -0/+7So instead of an absolutely featureless horizon with nothing to look at, you get wind turbines that are actually helping save the planet. No brainer imo.
- uselessexpert, on 12/14/2008, -0/+6UH? A Democrat? I thought it would have been a Republican asking something like that.....
- yeahboss, on 12/14/2008, -3/+9Saving the world > aesthetics
- FlaG8r, on 12/14/2008, -1/+5You should get an atlas.
- alais, on 12/14/2008, -0/+4Another wind farm, another Democrat.
"The efforts to move the wind farm forward occur amid growing attention to Kennedy's role in the secret, behind-the-scenes maneuvering to stop it."
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/04 ... - proliance, on 12/14/2008, -0/+4The only other person that I'm aware that did this is Senator Kennedy from MA. And I don't have to tell you what party he belongs to.
- BrandonEagan, on 12/14/2008, -0/+4Just dug a little deeper than the admittedly biased and uneven article. It looks like there has been a study raising some very serious questions about marine safety. And this study has NOT been released to the public, so there has been NO opportunity for the public to even know about it, let alone provide their comments and input.
So it sounds like all he wants to do is disclose a vital piece of info to relevant stakeholders and give them 60 days to weigh in. (I think that's the statutory minimum period for required public comment.) - cheeseplease, on 12/14/2008, -0/+3Agreed, but maybe they can put the windfarms far enough from shore to make them invisible from the land.
- BrandonEagan, on 12/14/2008, -0/+3He's also the Congressman in charge of the committee overseeing the Coast Guard you know. But whatever.
- cheeseplease, on 12/14/2008, -0/+3Buying the wind farm stocks after publicizing the plans to build the wind farm doesn't make a lot of sense, the raise in stock price will already happen at publication date and after that the stock will pretty much be a "regular" stock again, no high expected gains. So far for your finance 101 :)
- inactive, on 12/14/2008, -0/+2Either that or he's taking a big payoff from some group that does not want the windfarm.
- spyd3rweb, on 12/14/2008, -0/+2Actually this is because of a law that was passed. They don't have to read or respond to anyone not in their districts.
- jfdolier, on 12/14/2008, -5/+7I'm sure this has nothing to do with the fact that he lives on that beach...
- chmstar, on 12/14/2008, -0/+2Try a fax, I'm sure all those hard copy contacts are more of a pain in the ass anyway.
- christall109, on 12/14/2008, -0/+2As a Cape Cod resident myself, the Cape Wind Project does not have an "over welling" support support amongst my fellow Cape Cod residents. (Probably the 13% of the people that voted No in MA) I've lived on Cape Cod all my life and we are a place where our economy is based heavily on tourism. Since the tourist come to enjoy our Cape Cod beaches and visit the historical Martha's Vineyard Sound (where the proposed location of the project is proposed) there can be no doubt that this will impact the Cape's economy.
Additionally, the comments made about Senator Kennedy's ocean view being interrupted are false since he lives on the Bay side of the Cape. NOT over looking the proposed project area. - TheGuruStud, on 12/14/2008, -2/+4Congressmen = criminals
- BrandonEagan, on 12/14/2008, -0/+2There doesn't seem to be anything criminal here, just the congressman in charge of overseeing the Coast Guard trying to make sure it is thorough and diligent in doing its job. Jumping to the most treacherous of explanations for everything do nothing but contribute to cynicism and distrust in our society. Try to assume good faith first, you'll be much less miserable.
- BrandonEagan, on 12/14/2008, -0/+2It sounds like the Massachusetts public has had plenty of time to weigh in about their feelings, but the people who might have their ships sunk quite literally by the project haven't been granted the same opportunity.
If I'm not mistaken, federal law requires administrative agencies to provide formal notice and public comment on issues like these. Expecting people to follow local stories in Massachusetts and preemptively weight in doesn't count. The real question here is why does a congressman have to weigh in to get the Coast Guard to do its job? - Rudegar, on 12/14/2008, -0/+2and yet where I live we get 20% of our power from wind
and our waters are gateway to Finland, Germany, Estonia and...
so can't be that big a problem - inactive, on 12/14/2008, -1/+3Well if he's justified I can understand, as far as I know the only major impact I've heard of wind farms having on the ecosystem is bat hearts exploding due to the change in air pressure around them. I dunno if they find nothing, I can say this guy is a big waste of time, let's see what's up but I sure hope there aren't any further delays. What better way to acquire energy than from something that's always constantly at motion, be it wind, waves, or solar, we should have though of this along time ago and delays are just really something we don't wanna hear.
- spyd3rweb, on 12/14/2008, -0/+1That would have to be something like 20 miles out.
- arpad, on 12/14/2008, -1/+2And a little deeper still you'd find out that some very powerful people - the name "Kennedy" being prominent among them - have been doing their best to deep-six this idiotic idea for most of its life. Not because it's a waste of government funds but because it might interfere with their ocean-view on a clear day.
- BrandonEagan, on 12/14/2008, -1/+2Maybe you should look into the issue before you start making scurrilous accusations. This is the guy who's in charge of the committee overseeing the Coast Guard. The Coast Guard has not yet received the full results of a study that raises questions about marine safety, and the public hasn't seen any of it. So he asks the agency he oversees to "please make sure you do your job! Get the results of the study. And make them public so that people can comment on them!"
It's a sad day in America when a congressman gets slandered and attacked for trying to increase government diligence, transparency, and accountability. People who jump to the most treacherous of explanations for everything, do nothing but contribute to cynicism and distrust in our society. Try to assume good faith first. - Wargasmic, on 12/14/2008, -0/+1If humans died off it would save the world...How much sense does that make?
- BrandonEagan, on 12/14/2008, -1/+2Spyd3rweb is right, that's not Oberstar's fault. That's Congress. The entire congressional email system is set up that way. Here's the FAQ from Congress's website (which includes alt contact methods):
Can I send a message to a Member who does not represent my congressional district? -- Congressional courtesy dictates that Representatives be given the opportunity to assist their own constituents. The Write Your Representative service does not allow for the processing of messages to a Member that does not represent the state and zipcode entered. If direct contact with a specific Member that does not represent your district is required, the Clerk of the House maintains addresses and phone numbers of all House Members and Committees, or you may call (202)225-3121 for the U.S. House switchboard operator.
http://writerep.house.gov/writerep/wyrfaqs.shtml#n ... - apophenic, on 12/14/2008, -0/+1So far for your english 101 :)
- ahhell, on 12/14/2008, -0/+1God I hope that was sarcasm.
- depro9, on 12/14/2008, -0/+1In the end we will wind.
- duckley, on 12/21/2008, -0/+1Maybe YOU should also look at WHO OWNS PROPERTY there...
INCLUDING OBERSTAR and his friends !
CROOK! - inactive, on 12/14/2008, -1/+2I guess I must have misread the article. For a minute there I thought it said Democratic congressman. There is no way that could be true. The Democrats are friends to all, especially the environment. It must be some evil GOP plot to deceive the public.
- richirwin, on 12/14/2008, -0/+1"Doomsday will be upon us" wasn't enough?
- BrandonEagan, on 12/14/2008, -2/+2Did you read the article? This isn't about aesthetics, it's about marine safety. And if you do a little digging, you find out that the Coast Guard has done a study finding serious problems with marine radar, navigation, and safety. But that study has been so far kept secret, so no time for public comment...
It turns out that everyone has been so obsessed about saving the world or saving aesthetics that no one forgot to figure out if a giant wind farm will be a magnet for oil tankers or if it will block the ability of marine radar to prevent one ship from running into another. Frankly, if this thing causes an oil spill it will pretty much negate any environmental benefit. - christall109, on 12/14/2008, -1/+1Not if the 13% are Cape Cod residents. The residents that will be impacted by the project.
- christall109, on 12/14/2008, -1/+1As a Cape Cod resident, Kennedy does not live on the beach that would be overlooking the project. He's supporting the 13% that are Cape Cod residents whose businesses and lively hood will be hurt by this project.
Don't take my comments as anti-renewable energy. I'm all for renewable energy, just not in a place that will cause an economic backlash to the location's economy. It's like putting a wind farm in Yellowstone National Park. People go there to see the natural beauty and hunt, not gaze at 2 story tall windmills that scare away the animals.
Not to mention that this is lead by a private company. And when a big hurricane finally hits Cape Cod, all the windmills will be damaged and I can see the company going bankrupt trying to fix them, then whose left to bail them out? The MA public. - xxjayjay12894xx, on 12/14/2008, -1/+0LOL. Thanks for the shout. Some people just have no common sense.
- protodon, on 12/14/2008, -2/+1Let's just skip all this and start wrapping the sun in solar panels.
- duckley, on 12/14/2008, -3/+2FOLLOW THE MONEY...
Who's been BRIBING Oberstar, or "donating" to his campaign? - richirwin, on 12/14/2008, -4/+2If the wind farm is utilizing a large enough portion of the energy from the wind, global wind patterns will be affected and doomsday will be upon us.
- tavallai, on 12/14/2008, -6/+3This makes sense. Because, you know, a congressman from a landlocked state in flyover country knows soooo much about coastal issues.
- Denominator88, on 12/13/2008, -14/+10The congressman's house is right on that beach.
But in all honesty, who would want to look over the beautiful ocean and see that? It reminds me of the scenes from WALL-E. In are attempt to better the Earth, are we going to instead ruin it in a different way? Just some thoughts.
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