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- Proctor, on 03/17/2008, -8/+31Shenanigans.
- ThePirateParty, on 03/17/2008, -7/+28This is the dumbest article I've ever read...
- bdsams, on 03/17/2008, -30/+46Al Gore invented the climate change
- Svengalus, on 03/17/2008, -9/+23Or it could make it greener! Or it could cause a glacier to cover all of Ireland!
- LeadOffMan, on 03/17/2008, -3/+15stick around you'll see more.....
- inactive, on 03/17/2008, -2/+13If it "could" turn Ireland brown, then it also "could not." Why the misleading statement?
- allan17, on 03/17/2008, -9/+19And the Internet.
- diggit83, on 03/17/2008, -1/+11You were trying to copy paste into your 1337 Civic forum........you did so instead, inside a dig comment box.
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Internet...... - noahhoward, on 03/17/2008, -1/+11How can you post something that interesting and not post a source? Source damnit!
- AndrewDB, on 03/17/2008, -2/+11Yup. I've never seen such a beautiful 404 in all my life.
It's simply spectacular. - Butros, on 03/17/2008, -4/+12Slap yourself and get a Guinness, harp or smithwick's
- neenach2002, on 03/17/2008, -27/+35I lol'd. How long is it going to take for people to realize that Global Warming is a myth?
Just a few weeks ago, the people who did all the "research" announced there was a bug in the software they were using and are now predicting a "global cooling" - karaokekidd, on 03/17/2008, -15/+23So it will get colder? So first it's global warming, and now it's climate change? I call shenanigans. The climate will always be changing, it always has. It's also funny how in the article they have to add a caveat that it's not a big change, unlike what Africa faces for instance. This is a non-story.
- Daz3, on 03/17/2008, -0/+72004 was the hottest year on record. You are also talking short term here - from 2000 to 2007 it would be extremely difficult and futile to look for a temperature trend. This being said, temperatures on earth are never stable and we are always in a constant state of climate change.
- jetboyterp, on 03/17/2008, -4/+11Well, at least the article calls it what it is..."Climate Change" and not "Man-Made Global Warming". I don't doubt perhaps that the Earth is going through climate change...climate on this planet has never really been stagnant, ever since it's been spinning around the Sun there's been climate change. It just makes no sense when people say man is causing it, and man can change it.
- archiesteel, on 03/17/2008, -1/+8Global warming models already take into account these cycles. Do you really think Climate Scientists are that stupid?
- archiesteel, on 03/17/2008, -2/+9Climate change does happen naturally. That doesn't prevent us from having an impact on it, in addition to natural change. In fact, one must really be blind and dumb to believe that cutting down the majority of rainforests *and* pumping CO2 in the atmosphere at record levels would have no impact...
Oh, and I did read the link you provided, though you yourself apparently did not. If you had, you'd have read that they are *not* predicting a global cooling, but rather suggest that the last year was probably some sort of anomaly. As it happens, the cyclical climate phenomenon known as "La Niña" started last summer, and that usually brings colder weather around.
The problem is that you guys see this in a very simplistic way, i.e. if Global Warming was real, then it'd be warmer everywhere, all the time, and the temperature would increase regularly each year. Well, it doesn't happen that way - what does happen is that the global weather system has more energy (i.e. heat) in it, which makes it increasingly less predictable.
From the article you linked to:
"Calling it a "fluctuation" and "a large anomaly" compared to the 30-year running temperature average that climatologists use, he emphasized that the cold spell is "no indication that global warming is over" but does "illustrate that the driving mechanisms behind our planet's climate are still very much in control of changing the climate and that the planet's not in the death grip of CO2 just yet." - apc3161, on 03/17/2008, -0/+7I hate digg's link system. I'll try this
http://www.intangibility.com/Photography/Travel/Ir ... - illycoffee, on 03/17/2008, -0/+7Shut up you religious douches nozzles. Ireland's grass is not going to turn brown because of some extra co2 parts per million in the atmosphere.
- JoshuaLowe, on 03/17/2008, -0/+6Wow, what a piece of fear mongering that article is. "Could" "might" "may", it reads like something out of a tabloid.
- archiesteel, on 03/17/2008, -8/+14That's because it's *not* a myth. We have the science, the computer models *and* the observed data to support it. Deniers have...hardcore cynicism?
Seriously, I'm still waiting for *anyone* to provide real scientific data that anthropogenic climate change *isn't* happening.
People "buy" into Global Warming because it's true, even though it's not the cool thing to say on Digg. - bullcutter, on 03/17/2008, -6/+12so? and my ass _could_ turn into a spaceship. what's the point?
i'm so ***** sick of seeing all these front-page stories about what "climate change" _could_ do.
what is it _actually_ doing for *****'s sake, besides making Gore and his green pimp bots countless millions?
buried for attempting to make people stupider than they already are. - REBELinBLUE, on 03/17/2008, -2/+8First "The Great Global Warming Swindle" was a Channel 4 documentary not a BBC documentary.
Secondly, if you are going to use a documentary to prove your point you might want to try one by someone a bit more reputable than Martin Durkin, one that wasn't slammed by scientists around the world, one that used up-to-date data rather than 20 year old data, one where several of the scientists who took part weren't critical about how their words were twisted to fit the documentary makers agenda and one where the maker of said documentary doesn't have to resort to comments such as "You're a big daft *****" and "Go and ***** yourself." when people criticise his work.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Global_Warm ...
http://ocean.mit.edu/~cwunsch/papersonline/durkine ...
Oh but wait I forgot, it is a global conspiracy! How foolish of me. Do people who claim this crap actually listen to themselves, they sound more insane than the 911 truthers.
By the way, I have never seen Al Gore's film before you accuse me of being brain washed by Gore, in fact I haven't really made up my mind one way or the other. - Daamien, on 03/17/2008, -3/+9Frankly I am pretty pumped about the prospect of 'Mediterranean-like' beaches in Southern Ireland.
- archiesteel, on 03/18/2008, -1/+7*That's* your link? The source being a "press clipping" on a Fax machine, one the blog author admits doesn't know whether it's true or not? For which she doesn't even provide the original publication? Which makes no reference to a specific researcher or group, but rather a "consortium of climate scientists working on behalf of the UN, EU, NGO’s, Greenpeace, Earth First, Sierra, Club, Club of Rome, and others"?
You're kidding, right? Right?
I though I was going to have some junk science to debunk, but this...this is less than nothing. I feel stupider just to have looked at it. I'm sorry, but if that is your precious argument, then you sir are full of FAIL. - neenach2002, on 03/17/2008, -9/+15When I say "global warming" I'm not referring to the planet's natural cycle - I'm referring to the lies, etc that they are spreading, claiming we are causing it.
There's no doubt that the Earth goes through climate cycles naturally - I have been saying this for years, actually. - archiesteel, on 03/17/2008, -1/+6"How many times have environmental alarmists been proven wrong?"
If you're referring to Global Cooling in the 70s, then consider it was only a handful of scientists, and they quickly realized they were wrong. The fad lasted only a few months.
Now consider that the scientific models have been refined, that computers are about 10,000,000x more powerful, and that we have correlating data from weather stations *and* satellites. But I guess it's much easier to be an anonymous cynic on a web site... - alittleroy101, on 03/17/2008, -0/+5That would actually be pretty sweet.
- noahhoward, on 03/17/2008, -3/+8I went into this article with high hopes of Ireland finally being able to have some dry days like the rest of us. Sorry chaps, looks like more rain. It'll be sad to see but nothing lasts forever.
- alittleroy101, on 03/17/2008, -0/+5Much of Ireland is stunningly green. I think that is the point they are trying to convey.
- archiesteel, on 03/17/2008, -4/+9Actually, no. I have looked at the so-called data provided by deniers and kept an objective attitude, but so far it has not stood up to scrutiny. It's not my fault if the deniers can't come up with any science to back their assertions, is it?
It seems to me it's the deniers who live in their own little fantasy world. - archiesteel, on 03/17/2008, -1/+6"The Great Global Warming Swindle" has been thoroughly debunked. It's also pretty stupid to think corporations would be behind it, since they are the ones most likely to lose money if regulations are put into place to control the situation.
- archiesteel, on 03/17/2008, -1/+6"That said; if you haven’t seen the worlds top climate scientists disproving most of the theories of the IPCC you haven’t been looking very closely."
I have been looking closely, and the world's top climate scientists haven't in fact been disproving most of the "theories" of the IPCC. In some cases they've been refining them, but overall they have been agreeing with them. A *handful* of scientists have expressed doubts, but they are a minority (and most of that minority has received money from oil corporations in the past decade - see the CBC's "The Denial Machine" for more info). Or perhaps you bought into Senator Inhofe's grossly inaccurate list about "400 scientists rejecting the IPCC findings"? I hope not, for your sake: that list was thoroughly debunked for the propaganda it is.
As for the "mini Ice Age", there's a good reason why you don't see it on most graphs that show global mean temperatures: that's because it wasn't a global event, but was mostly restricted to Europe.
So far it seems I am much more informed than you are on this, and yet you have the gall to call me ignorant. Perhaps if you didn't get some of the basic facts about this all wrong, you'd have some credibility, but right now you don't. Go back and read some more on the subject, then come back to discuss it. - archiesteel, on 03/17/2008, -4/+9Actually, the proponents' data *does* hold up. And deniers usually don't present data at all, but rather easily-disprovable fallacies (i.e. "in the 70s it was Global Cooling", "it's getting hotter on Mars as well", "Greenland used to be green" and other such nonsense).
Again, if anyone has serious, peer-reviewed science that contradicts AGW, I'd be happy to look at it. So far I haven't seen any. - inactive, on 03/17/2008, -1/+6I wanna take all your stuff and give it to the poor then prevent you from buying, eating and doing things that I don't like......I think I'll call it the "Carbon Tax".
- archiesteel, on 03/17/2008, -0/+5Yes, provide us with the correct link, and then we'll talk. We'll be able to judge for ourselves when we read what "they" announced. (Who is this "they", by the way?)
I guess some people *do* love being in denial. And, yes, that would be you. - dsmx, on 03/17/2008, -1/+5I'm just pointing out that the debate is over whether were having a significant impact on climate change by our activities not that we are solely responsible for climate change.
- regeya, on 03/17/2008, -0/+4Aye, and Dublin could be consumed by a volcano tomorrow.
- archiesteel, on 03/17/2008, -2/+6Global Warming is a misleading term in the sense that it indicates there's more energy (i.e. "heat") in the global climate system. More energy doesn't necessarily mean it'll be warmer, everywhere, all the time. It may mean some areas will get colder - however, the net outcome will be an increased average temperature.
This is something that has been explained over and over again, but it seems deniers have trouble hearing it, for all the sand in their ears. - banmaster, on 03/17/2008, -2/+6If the Gulf Stream stalls, Ireland (and most of europe) will turn into one giant ice-cube, NOT a dry arid place.
- tman84, on 03/17/2008, -7/+11Are we talking about the natural climate change that has occurred for hundred's of thousands of years in the modern version of earth? Or is this about Global Warming that they had to rename climate change because now it can apply to anything and fit whoever is discussing it's needs.
- EtherGnat, on 03/17/2008, -0/+4404, that does remind me of my golf scores. :/
- bjornski, on 03/17/2008, -0/+4So why didn't you link that article instead?
- linkdj, on 03/17/2008, -0/+4You're right! Climate change *could* turn Ireland's green to purple! Orange?
- hoogie, on 03/17/2008, -2/+5Please don't take the Viagra out of my water supply, sir. It's all I have left.
- archiesteel, on 03/17/2008, -1/+4Do you deny humanity has put more CO2 in the atmosphere than there's been since mankind has appeared on this Earth? Do you deny that CO2 is a greenhouse gas? Do you deny that rainforest coverage has decreased dramatically (by 50%) over the past 200 years?
The surprising thing would be that this had *no* effect on climate. - lepster10101, on 03/17/2008, -2/+5What complete and utter alarmist bollocks. Nice to see the media is consistent if nothing else.
- dsmx, on 03/17/2008, -7/+10Do you think the ice ages were a myth then? It falls in the same category, we already know that the planet goes through natural periods of hot and cold, the debate is actually over if we are having a significant impact on these climate changes not if global warming is a myth.
- archiesteel, on 03/18/2008, -0/+3Well, Tyreck, at least we agree on this. Peace.
- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 03/17/2008, -1/+4Every year thousands of college students graduate with a useless degree in communications...
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