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- Lynx55, on 08/20/2008, -15/+34Oh of course...it's scientific so Bush doesn't understand it. Damn him, I hope they fight this tooth and nail.Our wildlife are already being threatened by global warming, they don't need Bush hurrying their demise.
- tehsagemaster, on 08/20/2008, -7/+19If the wildlife die, we die. that's one of the main reasons why scientist protect the wildlife, to preserve the food chain. Bush is a stupid *****, no wonder he couldn't graduate college.
- 5xSTUN, on 08/20/2008, -0/+12Who's got time to worry about future generations of Americans living without the wildlife that defines the natural beauty of our land when we've got lip-locking female gymnasts to gawk at?
- Rudegar, on 08/20/2008, -12/+23is he letting Cheney shoot them in the face?
- treehugger87, on 08/20/2008, -10/+20This just in. Investigative journalist Smokey the Bear is has discovered a secret prison deep within the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. Large numbers of 'furry enemy combatants' who are resisting the elimination of the Endangered Species Act are being held without trial. 3 polar bears are known to have died while undergoing 'attitude modification' training. Rumors of a secret memo detailing coercive techniques for convincing animals to live harmoniously all together in a single 14 acre plot in North Dakota are circulating.
- AdInventive, on 08/20/2008, -8/+18Theres oil in dem dar hills.
- Spuy767, on 08/20/2008, -15/+22The endangered species act is broke as *****. Apparently it's you who doesn't understand it. The endangered species act forces companies to pay for studies on the impact that their actions will have on wildlife in regions in which said companies do not operate. The consumers in this country are paying for protection for animals that aren't being threatened in the cost of almost every item we buy. Do we need to go bald eagle hunting? No. But when a company doing business in Louisiana is being forced to pay for a study on the impact that its operations will have on the mating cycle of the kodiak bear, what's easier, to pay the money, or to move its operations, and thousands of jobs overseas, eventually having a far worse impact on the environment by being able to operate under far more lax environmental regulations?
- stonewall123, on 08/20/2008, -3/+10Your reality is very distorted! I'm guessing that you've actually never taken courses on evolution. This is not a case of evolution at normal rates we are dealing with. Most ecologists and wildlife biologists agree that the situation is much worse than the normal rate of extinction ( almost 1000X the expected rate). By your warped logic everyone dies eventually therefore its no big deal that a suicide bomber takes out 50 people at a crowded market.
- stonewall123, on 08/20/2008, -2/+8lol ?
- fiji5555, on 08/20/2008, -8/+14Well if extinction is a normal part of life lets start with you and your family, I'm sure you are just a fly on the face of the earth ya know so no harm done there. I always love the selfish people on here who bring up "our lives and businesses" ......spoken like a true Bush/Cheney ass kisser.
- moxley, on 08/20/2008, -7/+13In have an idea:
Let's round up some polar bears and take them to the whitehouse unannounced the next time they are meeting to discuss this. This way the Polar Bear's side of the story can be heard...and felt. - vector66, on 08/20/2008, -14/+20Someone is not going to be happy until America is nothing more than a heartless and cruel oligarchy. Hopefully we have learn from this and will show up on November! Let's get busy!
- inactive, on 08/20/2008, -3/+9WTF are you babbling about?
If you can back up your claim of Louisiana companies being forced to do arctic studies, please do so.
Other wise you are talking out your ass.
Gee, another rightard who fails to grasp that once the environment is gone, it's gone. Same for animals.
But making money is FAR more imporant, right rightard?
AH, now I see how it is that you care so little for nature. You are just another moronic republican.
We don't expect you to understand stuff like this, just like I don't expect my cat to understand why I clean it's litter box. - martoq, on 08/20/2008, -0/+5And if it were any other president I might be inclined to agree with you. But there is no doubt in my mind that this president is 100% agenda based and not doing this for the betterment of America...rather he is doing it for the betterment of his financial constituents.
- midgetdiablo, on 08/20/2008, -7/+12Uhhh... how come there's not a lot of digs on this? does no one ***** care?
- inactive, on 08/20/2008, -10/+15What business is it of the U.S. Federal Government to involve itself with wildlife issues anyway?
The 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution says that the States retain all jurisdiction over such things. - VitriolAndAngst, on 08/20/2008, -0/+5Breaking News:
Smokey Bear was shot in the Green Zone today on the way to the airport. Controversy exists over whether he had clearance to drive to the airport, and whether the message was sent to the guards at a checkpoint.
Some have considered the timing to be highly suspect, as Smokey was due to deliver a report on vast damage to the Alaskan ecosystem due to poor adherence to Oil Shipment Guidelines, and this is the first time anyone has heard of checkpoints anywhere in Alaska. However, the rumored report was burnt in his convoy, after a 10 minute shooting spree ended with a White Phosphorous Grenade, and the reduction of the vehicle to ash, the flames quickly spread to Smokey's apartment in Seattle, and the building crumbled into its own footprint from the exploding waste basket.
Our crack Hip News Live reporters were sent to the scene where they interviewed Captain Jack Rip, who was assigned to the post, immediately following the event, and carpooled with our reporter. His statement; "White Phosphorous munitions are a standard procedure now to deal with cars gunning their engines to ram the checkpoints. It's a well-known standard procedure." Asked if there were other examples of such a procedure, the interview was cut short by an inadvertent, stray bullet to the groin of our cameraman, who is in the hospital and doing well. My children and two dogs are also reported as being unharmed in the incident.
As such routine machine gun and then burn the vehicle procedures are used to protect checkpoints and reduce traffic, that doesn't end the alleged controversy. The Driver, Private Toby Belch, survived 15 bullet wounds and a kick to the spleen, is on the record as saying that "the checkpoint gave us the all clear, and we proceeded at no more than 15 mph towards them -- we did not gun the engine." However, Toby is now under investigation for having banned images of underage minors on his laptop. "I don't even own a computer" claims Toby, a well known Liberal and serial whiner. The policy of this news agency is to not count on the testimony of alleged criminals.
The matter, according to high ranking, anonymous government insiders, has been settled and was clearly due to an Iranian, anti-bear policy. It has been determined that some Polar Bears are now sympathetic to the Talaban, because they hate American Freedom, and our farm raised fish.
The checkpoint has since vanished. But I'm told by an anonymous government person that checkpoints have to be moved frequently, so that the enemy and Al-Qaeda-in-Alaska cannot find them. - omegared, on 08/20/2008, -0/+4the ecosystem is all connected, to think that certain species are not effected by the loss of one is naive. Till humans realize that we need the ecosystem, we are part of it and that yes we can even change it (sally destructive), we will continue to destroy other life, and it will effect humans. Maybe through a loss of a food source, increased disease, or and extinction of another species because a animal lost its food source.
- neognostic, on 08/20/2008, -5/+9Godwhacker needs an education, name a single thing the current neocon administration has done that is part of the Democratic platform.
- randf, on 08/20/2008, -9/+12stop making sense and confusing people with real facts. it just upsets the BDS folks and upsets their morning tea.
- jerbaker, on 08/20/2008, -1/+4"The Endangered Species Act is ***** up Enviro Nazi legislation that takes away land owner's rights in the name of cute, fuzzy critters."
If I own the property next door to you, should I be able to detonate nuclear weapons on my property? Why not? Should I be able to make a large pile of decaying chicken carcasses so my neighbors can enjoy the smell?
What seems to escape you people is that rights come with responsibilities. Just like free speech doesn't mean you can shout "fire" in a crowded theater, property rights don't mean you can ruin the planet. Get over yourself. - jerbaker, on 08/20/2008, -0/+3I didn't say "everyone is ruining the planet." What I did suggest was that just because you own a piece of property doesn't mean you have the right to do whatever you want on it when the effects of your actions will spill out to others. Your rights stop where mine start. I'm not sure why that's a difficult concept for so-called "property rights" advocates.
- Homerr, on 08/20/2008, -4/+7Why does Bush hate America so much?
- clamhead, on 08/20/2008, -4/+7enlighten us as to what part of the story is half-true or junk ... I couldn't care less who the author is if the facts of the story are correct, and they are.
- AndrewMoyer, on 08/20/2008, -0/+3I suppose you think it would be just fine for your grandchildren to be able to only read about all of this wildlife on the internet. I wish that was the only place people like you existed too.
- martoq, on 08/20/2008, -2/+5Just when you thought this man couldn't ***** up our country any more than he already has.
- SpinningHead, on 08/20/2008, -0/+3"It allows POLITICS to determine wildlife policy instead of actual science. "
Even conservatives have admitted nobody has ever subverted and censored taxpayer funded science like Bush has. - wunksta, on 08/21/2008, -0/+3its more of an indication of the state of the environment really. if species are just falling out then that means theres problems with the environment. if theres problems with the environment, its only a matter of time before its affecting us. we dont live separate from nature or the earth, everything is connected and regulated through feedback loops.
take the ocean for instance. having fish and other wildlife die in the ocean en masse through nutrient overflow and red algae build up isnt something that doesnt affect us. its an indication that we are having a detrimental affect on the environment which will eventually come back to us. - midnitegazer, on 08/20/2008, -2/+5read what the National Wildlife Federation says: http://www.nwf.org/news/story.cfm?pageId=B37BC419- ...
it's not "digg propaganda" as some users like to think. Bush would like to not have to save the Polar Bears. - SpinningHead, on 08/20/2008, -3/+6You're either with us or with the wildlife. Um...
- VitriolAndAngst, on 08/20/2008, -0/+2Dang!
http://tviv.org/Lost/Dharma_Initiative - Dweller99, on 08/20/2008, -3/+5"Aug. 20, 2008"
While it is easy to get this confused with many other douchebag moves by this administration, this is just the latest one. - joe122370, on 08/20/2008, -0/+2uhh he has degrees from Harvard and Yale. Let us know when you get out of 6th grade....the 2nd try
- jerbaker, on 08/20/2008, -2/+4Something you wannabe Constitutional scholars can't seem to understand, even almost two hundred years after it happened, is that the Supreme Court of the United States has the ultimate power of judicial review. When the Constitution was written they said, "Here's the rules guys, but if there's any question about what they mean these guys over here will be the deciders." That means, in our political system, the courts are able to affect legislation and policy. It's a power given to them by the very Constitution to which many claim to be so loyal. Don't pretend to be reverent to the Constitution while attacking the principles therein. It's dishonest.
The courts have ruled many times that the Federal Government has jurisdiction over wildlife that crosses state lines. It's Constitutional, and you're not some genius new legal mind who just figured out what every legal mind who came before you, from Jefferson to Marshall, were somehow unable to see. - bowens44, on 08/20/2008, -0/+2there is no such thing as a 'minor species' and yes, the fly has more of a right to the land.
- m8ymerc1, on 08/20/2008, -1/+3WOW, I so amazingly hate this man. He just gets worse and worse, each time more sneakier than the last. There is nothing to low for this guy, their is no bottom. He is just disgustingly despicable and by far the worse thing that has ever come from the U.S.! He is the terrorist.
- CourtesyFlush, on 08/20/2008, -2/+4Some people ignore the laws of Nature while others strive to create their own horse ***** laws on behalf of Nature.
Frankly, both attitudes are extremist positions.
Your insinuation that animals have 'rights' is ridiculous. Animals are not mentioned in the constitution. They have no rights in a court of law. They do not follow legal property lines and are not capable of being tried for trespassing. They have no right to freedom [check the cages at your local pet store].
Stop bemoaning their position in the food chain. Nature is not fair, nice or forgiving. Nature has no human qualities such as compassion. Nature is cruel. Deal with it.
If you want to save cute, fuzzy critters, you go right ahead. I'm sure you could do a better job than some pencil pusher in DC who is more worried about having their budget cut and losing political power than they are about saving the critter du jour. - omegared, on 08/20/2008, -2/+4how is extinction natural when humans are causing it?
- VitriolAndAngst, on 08/20/2008, -2/+4Great. Now we can look forward to future discussions like this;
Me: Wow, it really is sad that the Polar Bears are going extinct.
Maverick69: No it's not. That is a Liberal Conspiracy theory.
Me: The Alaska Times just said that few people are seeing them anymore...
IndepedentTh!nker: Loser. The EPA just said there isn't a problem -- don't you listen to all those socialist, wasteful government agencies?
Me: The EPA works for the government -- whether it works for me or not is dependent upon fair elections. They no longer use outside agencies to double-check facts, so a politically minded person, can make stuff up and get promoted -- I could give you a few links that show past cases...
101stChairborneTruthSquad: LOL. What another Liberal Conspiracy theory, the Government Accountability Offices says there is no problem with elections.
Me: San Francisco just elected Newt Gingrich as mayor -- how could all of these Liberals do that after all the banking crisis issues due to deregulation? The only big change was that they were forced to use voting machines from the company "formerly known as Diebold."
Maverick69: Well, that's what you Believe. Of course, because you are a looney Liberal.
>> I may have to leave the internets if I don't get the satisfaction of being able to Digitally Pimp Slap some fool I'm talking to. - cesig, on 08/20/2008, -2/+4"...Enviro Nazi legislation that takes away land owner's rights in the name of cute, fuzzy critters...."
I guess you didn't consider that it only takes rights away from human land owners. You may not be able to understand that the animals have the same right to the land as we do, but some of us do.
Obviously, they don't have the same means to retain it as we do, but some of us also understand that there are things more important in the universe than a human's wants.
But you may not. - ghostTree, on 08/20/2008, -0/+1JimmySpaza-
I don't necessarily agree with the negative diggs you appropriated, although I wouldn't give you a positive digg for that comment, either. I sometimes battle with that thought, that if everything is natural, including humans and their "synthetic" creations, then maybe everything is meant to be the way it is. However, as humans, we have the CHOICE to make a stand and change things, for better or for worse. Unless you believe everything IS truly predestined, including this reply I am typing, then that means we do have the ability to change things for the better, meaning trying to work together WITH the world, rather than fight against it for our own, yes, selfish needs.
The "Survival of the Fittest" comment, however, is a total cop-out of responsibility, no matter how you look at it. - eloestea, on 08/20/2008, -0/+1Dude, the polar bears are not going extinct, DHARMA has them all.
- buddywlkr3, on 08/21/2008, -0/+1Fourteen hundred farmers owning 200,000 acres in the Klamath River Basin of southern Oregon and Northern California were denied their water rights during the summer of 2001 because of the Endangered Species Act of 1973 (ESA). Nearly $200 million of life savings and hard work were wiped out instantly as the farmers were left with essentially worthless land. They are not alone. This has been the legacy of the ESA from its inception. It has confiscated billions of dollars of private property, harmed or destroyed the lives of hundreds of thousands of Americans and has not saved one endangered species! Not one. It is about time that the Administration stopped this foolishness. See more of the story at http://www.newswithviews.com/Coffman/mike2.htm
- mrzeero, on 08/20/2008, -1/+2We are dependent on the ecosystem. We need to quit ***** it up. There are about ten times the number of people walking around than the ecosystem can sustain. We need a drastic reduction in human population and a change in the way we interact with our environment. Humans will eventually be the losers.
- bluezombie, on 08/20/2008, -1/+2Nonsense. After all, God is all powerful. If HE (don't gimme any of this she horse pockey) wanted the little critters to survive, HE wouldn't have allowed them to die. Right? Because, if we don't use up or destroy everything beautiful and edible on the planet, what reason would we have to start WWIII and bring on the rapture? It isn't as though any of this stuff had been around for more than 6000 years, after all. That's just an eyeblink. Now lets move on to more important stuff. Like getting rid of science. Science is in books. We should burn all the books. We only need one book. And since we never really read it anyway we don't need but one copy. Maybe two in case them damn liberals try to get ahold of it. And quit teaching kids to read. With all the books gone we won't have to spend money on teaching them to read anymore. They have more important things to do than go to school. Like going to church, having big families, buying lots of stuff, and pushing the red button come election day. And they don't need more math than to count to one. That's right. One God, one church, one man and one woman, one party, one vote ... see what I mean?
- nick1971, on 08/20/2008, -0/+1I think a translation would increase the power of your argument:)
Если бы было действительно международное, то Вы были бы правы:
PS my russian is really *****. - karel747, on 08/20/2008, -2/+3While it's true that the ESA does have a number of issues, mostly dealing with private-property laws and such, as well as a lack of funding and integrity of scientific data, to claim that the ESA is a major reason for offshore outsourcing is laughable.
I think what you're getting as is the taxes associated with the ESA... to which I reply: Are you also mad that your taxes are being used to pay for police and firefighter protection of other houses besides your own?
In the end, the ESA isn't working because of the budget cuts and some of the incompetent people in charge of it. Of course the lists are going to be ***** up, and the individual protection plans hardly affective, when we aren't giving scientists the funds they need to precisely and accurately carry out their research. - angryredplanet, on 08/21/2008, -1/+2So, you deem it acceptable that mankind is wiping out species of both flora and fauna at 1000's of time the background rate of extinction? Our rapidly growing species is turning the biomass around us into more of us - that is a well established fact and not "eco-apocalyptic fantasy".
With Earth's biodiversity disappearing so quickly, how long do you give our species, or do you not care as long as it doesn't affect you during your lifetime?
The objective and unobscured truth is that if things stay as they are, things don't bode well for us humans. - chinaman1212, on 08/20/2008, -0/+1Does that come with clicking sounds?
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