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- Skab, on 11/16/2008, -2/+24OMG how'd they do this without T. Boone Pickens?! Could it be this is the best option an not what's profitable?!
- slopoke, on 11/16/2008, -4/+19I wish I live in Boulder!
- Carpy, on 11/16/2008, -4/+17must be the fresh air that invigorates all those brain cells -- hippies go high tech.
- doublefelix, on 11/16/2008, -0/+12I did a cost of living index, surprisingly close to Seattle; a $50K in Seattle is equivalent to making $50.2K in Boulder. If you move from Seattle, WA to Boulder, CO:
Groceries will cost:
14% less
Housing will cost:
18% more
Utilities will cost:
13% more
Transportation will cost:
11% less
Healthcare will cost:
11% less
- SRSco, on 11/16/2008, -0/+10I wish I know read comments before hits save reply and make self look dumb.
- MCA2142, on 11/16/2008, -4/+14No you wouldn't.
Trust me on this one. - Ne007, on 11/16/2008, -0/+9WOW! It lets you know exactly how much your carbon footprint is!
This way they can real us all in and then tax the ***** out of us on how much carbon we use.....the carbon tax IS coming... - donny4321, on 11/16/2008, -0/+7Pretty dumb comment. This is simply untrue - where'd you get your info? I live in Boulder, and tons of people smoke. And it's legal. Maybe you're thinking of the fact that smoking INDOORS is outlawed in the entire state of Colorado? Because that's the case in many places in America.
- Lax32, on 11/16/2008, -1/+8I'm surprised they havent figured out how to power their city using hemp yet...
- Neiby, on 11/16/2008, -1/+8You just perfectly described Boulder. It is the strangest mix of hippies, new agers, and high tech geeks. Very interesting place.
- inactive, on 11/16/2008, -0/+7Mother ***** expensive
- inactive, on 11/16/2008, -2/+9Since they started the program, they have been able to produce 590.7 fewer pounds of carbon, saving enough to microwave 154 pizzas. Multiply that by 50,000 customers -- and you have enough to microwave 7700000 pizzas.
- Brassbud, on 11/16/2008, -0/+6And yet, when my friends want to get high, that's where they go...weird.
- ydt89, on 11/16/2008, -1/+7:D I live in boulder :P :P
Yea, be prepared. Housing prices are outrageous. - CaptainChad, on 11/16/2008, -0/+6It's easy enough to move there. Make your wish come true. Just be prepared to pay a bunch of money for a place to live.
- daveisfera, on 11/16/2008, -1/+7Very cool, but there's no mention of upfront cost. Also, what are the maintenance costs/effects (replacing solar cells, replacing batteries, etc)?
- Z3r0t0l0rEnCe, on 11/16/2008, -2/+7I have family in Boulder and they keep telling me to move there. The more I see and hear about it really gets me thinking that it might not be such a bad idea.
- UserNull, on 11/16/2008, -0/+5...yeah I'm in Boulder right now. That's not true. At all.
- gibson85, on 11/16/2008, -0/+5 From The Simpsons:
Technician 1: Wat a minute! We can just shut off the power!
Technician 2: No such luck. It's solar powered.
Technician 1: [disgusted] Solar power. When will people learn?
[A solar eclipse takes place outside]
Leonard Nimoy: A solar eclipse. The cosmic ballet... goes on.
Passenger (sitting next to him): Does anyone wanna switch seats? - notzak, on 11/16/2008, -0/+4I live in Boulder and I honestly didn't know this was going on.
- donny4321, on 11/16/2008, -0/+4Too bad Xcel energy is a bunch of tools. They're pretty forward-thinking with all the wind-power and whatnot, but just try getting a little help from their customer care reps. They tried charging both me and my roommate for the same electricity, and then disconnected it when we only paid one of the duplicate bills. Took forever to get resolved.
- kevizzy37, on 11/16/2008, -0/+4Yeah.. and the houses are run down shacks for what you pay...
I live on Moorehead... nuff said... - BigW, on 11/16/2008, -0/+4From what I've seen there, there's a small bit of cowboy mixed in too. It is a very interesting city.
- Uiaccsk, on 11/16/2008, -0/+3Arapahoe, REPRESENT
- Cilicious, on 11/16/2008, -0/+3There have been Boulder douchebags for many a year, but you don't notice it right away because you're too dazzled by the "Boulder Experience."
I spent a year in Boulder way back in '77; the hippie aristocracy was in its infancy then and in full coke-snot nosed bloom by the mid-80's.
We settled in Denver, lived there many years, but Colorado is getting way too crowded; we sold our home at a tidy profit and now live in a quiet seaside town with maybe five stoplights. - MacBookForMe, on 11/16/2008, -0/+3Any place there for me, mate?
- UserNull, on 11/16/2008, -1/+4I'm in Boulder right now. I'll digg you up, but I don't think it's going to help. This place is full of frat guys and douchebags.
- BigW, on 11/16/2008, -1/+4I wish your grammar is right.
- inactive, on 11/16/2008, -0/+3This article is written with the same shallowness you would expect from television journalism - and there are some head-scratchers.
The article says 50k homes are upgraded and mentions 100mil investment from xcel. That's 2000 per home. The work done to each home as described in the article has GOT to cost more than 2k. And how is Xcel going to generate a profit.
If only the WSJ had written this article - or even the NYT. - Infinitex2, on 11/16/2008, -0/+3Portland, OR has. =)
- kolev, on 11/16/2008, -0/+3The difference is that Boulder is way healthier than Seattle - http://www.bestplaces.net/city/default.aspx?cat=HE ...
- mongrel, on 11/16/2008, -0/+3I did, I wouldn't want to now. The downside of the smart grid (while I LOVE the open space surrounding the city) is that there is NO room for growth, only an increase in mass. Traffic is crap, it's a real pain to get around.
To experience what it was like when I moved there 10 years ago, you literally have to take a drive on Thanksgiving morning.
Anyway I moved two towns over to the 'burbs, and now I'm 15 minutes from either the big city of the mountains. Pretty sweet. - MCA2142, on 11/16/2008, -0/+3Saudi-Aurora, Wassup.
Chamber's and Alameda in da house. - 5fifteen, on 11/16/2008, -1/+3@ThanatosST
Warmed it up? what the hell does that mean..Cold pizza ftw. - cplusplus, on 11/16/2008, -0/+2"You may know it as Boulder but to the residents its Smart Grid City!"
- Valyn, on 11/16/2008, -0/+2Hell my high school newspaper editor would have brought that up.
- 5fifteen, on 11/16/2008, -1/+3I'm moving there in January.. :O
- LushMojo, on 11/16/2008, -4/+6Boulder ain't all it's cracked up to be. My wife and I moved here 11 years ago and we're itching to get out. The attitudes of the people have steadily gone downhill and the things we used to laugh at are no longer funny. I mean, we're not miserable; it's still a gorgeous place, but we'll be much happier in some little quiet seaside town with one stoplight.
On the plus side, we purchased a house here 11 years ago fro $315k. The only way we were able was because our small startup company was acquired and we suckled from the DotCom Bubble teat. We paid cash for the home and now? It's worth just over $800k and we have three buyers lined up. And no, I'm not kidding. So, silvering lining and all that.
We still don't like Boulder. - GlryX, on 11/16/2008, -0/+2So how do we go about applying for this? I want a free car and $3 utilities!
- jobney76, on 11/16/2008, -0/+2On a large scale this is profitable. It's like the equivalent of a power plant spread all over. It's made even more efficient/profitable by psychologically hurting people for using too much power. They get free land in an area where it is very expensive and where citizens don't want new power plants built all using the existing grid. The smart tools are what the customer gets in return for all this. The use of the tools then saves the utility money. Sounds profitable to me.
- HtomSirveaux, on 11/17/2008, -0/+2Grad school? You might be better off at DU or CSM. Unless of course either of those schools don't cover your subject.
Anyway, Boulder is a wanna-be San Francisco in a traditionally conservative state. It's the same 'holier than thou' attitude that makes most people hate Christian zealots. - pigeonmeister, on 11/17/2008, -0/+2Same here.
- Ledjar, on 11/17/2008, -0/+2The majority of people in boulder are from California New York or Texas, mainly because people that are from here actually can't afford it.
- wonderbriefs, on 11/16/2008, -0/+2Denver turns it's trash into electricity.
http://www.denvergov.org/DenverArapahoeDisposalSit ... - Spoomeister, on 11/17/2008, -0/+2The difference is that Colorado actually has professional sports teams that ***** WIN something once in a while.
...bloody Mariners and Seahawks... gah!.... - ThanatosST, on 11/16/2008, -0/+2Never had pizza the day after and warmed it up?
- diemunkiesdie, on 11/16/2008, -0/+2Whats the cost to the end user of installing this system? Obviously the long term savings will be greater, but that initial cost is probably still quite a bit. Either way, I wish I had a $3 monthly electricity bill.
- NateVonSocks, on 11/16/2008, -4/+6I loooove living in Boulder...
- pman201, on 11/17/2008, -0/+2I think it might also be the marijuana in the air.
- HtomSirveaux, on 11/17/2008, -0/+1I'm glad that you don't live there. There's enough tools there as it is.
Brassbud is correct. The rest of the state has a deep seated, well justified disdain for Boulder. I avoid that city as well. It's the mentality that got the state wide smoking ban railroaded through.
"What's good for me must be good for you, therefore, we'll legislate as such so that you don't have a choice."
***** pricks.
Then they air obnoxious radio ads congratulating themselves for their heroic efforts and how much better off the state is now that you can only smoke at home under the sheets in a Guy Fawkes mask.
That city is a big damn traffic head ache and you'll never get any of them to admit that bicycling on a highway is NOT a good idea for safety sake.
Boulder is pretty much a country club with a state university in the middle of it.
'Progessivism' is fine and their new grid is probably a sound idea, but they have the same radicalism that makes Colorado Springs suck just as much. -
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