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Bizarre Glowing Color-Clouds Seen 30 Min Before China Quake watch!

youtube.com — "These clouds seemed to be glowing or somewhat luminous and seemed to resemble some characteristics of the Auroras. I guess they were formed by some kind of charged particles released from the powerful seismic events below. "

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  • webaddict, on 05/20/2008, -36/+71Bizarre glowing cloud phenomenon in the sky was observed about 10 mins before the May 12, 2008 Sichuan earthquake took place. This was recorded in Meixian, Shaanxi province ~550km northeast of epicenter. The phenomenon was said to last for about 1 min.
    source: http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_cb00XMjc...

    A map showing two locations where such clouds were sighted relative to Sichuan earthquake epicenters: http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/24...

    See similar clouds appeared ~200km west of this location:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKMTSD...

    More photos:
    http://shenyun.epochtimes.com/b5/8/5/...

    The clouds seemed to be glowing. Maybe it's not formed by water vapour. The clouds seemed to have characteristics resembling the Auroras. Maybe it's formed by charged particles released from powerful seismic events below. As people are pointing out it's rare atmospheric phenomenon,I could well be wrong since I am not expert at all. Hope some scientists are willing to give a full explanation.
    • DeskFlyer, on 05/20/2008, -4/+25You need to fix your links.
    • FadieZ, on 05/20/2008, -3/+21http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzVamNQzfYA
      http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2453/ecjm1.jpg
      http://shenyun.epochtimes.com/b5/8/5/14/n2116538.h ...
    • OpenFuture, on 05/20/2008, -3/+48The phenomena being exhibited in this video is known as a Circumhorizontal arc.

      "A circumhorizontal arc or circumhorizon arc (CHA), also known as a fire rainbow, is a halo or an optical phenomenon similar in appearance to a horizontal rainbow, but in contrast caused by the refraction of light through the ice crystals in cirrus clouds."

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumhorizontal_arc

      http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/06/06 ...
      • lazlonger, on 05/20/2008, -1/+11i'm surprised that wiki article hasn't been updated yet...thanks for THE ANSWER buried deep in here. seriously.
      • ZannaDiosa, on 05/20/2008, -0/+4I thought it might have been a sundog, but I think you're right. A fire rainbow looks closer to what is in the video. But if you want to see what a sundog looks like:

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_dog
      • dawpa2000, on 05/20/2008, -0/+8It seems to be related to earthquake light, as evidenced by the Wikipedia article:
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthquake_light
        • yaddayaddayoda, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1If you see one of these, it would be a good time to run.
      • diggimator, on 05/20/2008, -1/+5I've seen these before in Illinois. They appear for reasons completely unrelated to earthquakes. Just because they're rare doesn't mean there's going to be an earthquake when you see one.
      • Meryklon, on 05/21/2008, -0/+0doesn't mean it is not related either, or that the phenomenon is always caused by the same type of source
    • JBabin3xB, on 05/20/2008, -9/+3thanks for the info, like seriously
    • rpi22, on 05/20/2008, -11/+25I hate to break it to you, but its just sunlight refracting through the water vapor in a matter similar to a rainbow. Spooooooooky!!!!
      • Elliuotatar, on 05/20/2008, -3/+21Just because one set of lights in the sky looks the same as another, that doesn't prove without a doubt that they were produced by the same mechanism.

        Of course one incidence could be coincidence. The only way to know for sure would be to check to see if there have ever been any other similar reports of rainbow clouds before a quake.

        One thing is for certain though. Animals seem to know before people when a quake is going to happen. There must be some mechanism which we are not aware of that allows them to do this. Low frequency sound waves? Polarized light? Disruptions of the earth's magnetic field? Electrical discharge? Gas emissions?

        Who's to say that whatever allows them to detect these quakes can't also cause those ice crystals to align, or create a similar rainbow by some other means? Until we know what they're sensing, we can't say for sure what effects it might have.
      • jrhelgeson, on 05/20/2008, -6/+13I think that in hindsight, this sequence of events will turn out to be some of the MOST curious events we've ever witnessed in our time. Lets start putting things together, shall we?

        On May 2nd, The Chaiten Volcano in southern Chile erupted with a ferocity the likes of which we've never before seen. In one days eruption it spewed out more CO2 and ash than all mankind has put in the atmosphere over the past 100 years. Mankind is pathetic when compared to the awesome power of Mother Nature. The lightning bolts alone coming out of the ash cloud is an unbelievably impressive site. But I digress...

        Then the earthquake itself, at 8.0 on the Richter scale is one of the largest measured in recent history came 10 days after the volcano.

        Now take a globe, put your finger on the volcano, the other on the epicenter of the earthquake and you'll notice that those two events happened on exact polar opposite ends of the earth. Spin the globe, like I did, and you'll see that it spins with PERFECT SYMMETRY.

        I can only surmise that the earthquake was the recoil from the volcanic eruption, and the rainbow clouds were caused by intense disruptions in the earths magnetic field. Similar to the aurora borealis that can be seen over the North Pole It would be interesting to find out if any magnetic needles went haywire during that time... does any government body monitor earthly magnetic fields? NOAA?

        Then you want to take that and double down?

        Lets look at Cyclone Nargis that hit Myanmar (Burma). Burma sits on China's southern border and is the closest neighbor to the earthquake region. Well; the cyclone hit on the same day that the volcano was erupting, on May 2nd.

        Now this may all be coincidence, sure. But it could be argued, and in fact I do hereby put forth the argument that the pending eruption in Chile caused disruptions in the earths magnetic field, which then helped create the low pressure area over the Bay of Bengal which spawned cyclone Nargis.

        Now lets go ALL IN, shall we?

        Connect the dots. Start at the epicenter of the earthquake and draw a line to where the cyclone made landfall on the coast of Myanmar (Burma). Continue to draw your line along the path (trajectory) that the cyclone followed as it picked up steam, take that line all the way back to the origins of the storm (which the US Navy called "tropical cyclone #95b") Then continue to draw that line to meet up with the Chaiten Volcano. Now take a look at the shape you just drew... it is a perfectly straight line.

        The line covers spans a massive 11,000 miles of ocean without a single continent getting in the way. From Chile to the South Atlantic Ocean, past the southern tip of Africa and over the Indian Ocean, maintaining the course all the way up to the Bay of Bengal, to the coast of Myanmar where the cyclone made landfall and on up to the epicenter of our 8.0 earthquake.
        • RussellDovey, on 05/20/2008, -7/+12You're a crazy person. Volcanic eruptions do not put out nearly that much carbon dioxide, cyclones occur all the time without earthquakes, and the earthquake was on a different continental plate to the volcanic eruption; the stresses caused by one could not possibly be related to the other.
        • madpie, on 05/20/2008, -2/+9You have indeed gone all in, my friend.
        • xBDVx, on 05/20/2008, -3/+3Russel: Agreed. Jr: Scientists have discovered that the meteor that hit the Earth to kill off the dinosaurs probably caused eruptions/earthquakes on the exact opposite side of Earth. But that's because we're talking about a couple mile-wide hunk of rock slamming into Earth at tens of thousands miles an hour. Nothing made on Earth itself is going to create enough energy to cause earthquakes on the other side of earth.

          Also, power plants (we're talking in the US alone) emit some 2.5 billion tons of CO2 per year (and this is from 1999):
          http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/electricity/page/co2_ ...
          whereas the average volcano eruption emits a few thousand tons per day (for a very short time)
          http://pubs.usgs.gov/of/1995/of95-055/core/meta/ta ...
          so you do the math.
        • Qeveren, on 05/20/2008, -4/+2Someone apparently doesn't realize that maps are a 2D projection of a curved surface. There -are- no straight lines between any two points on the Earth's surface.

          I'd love to see some citations for the claims that there was anything special about the Chaiten eruption, especially the bit about the amount of CO2 released.

          The clouds were simply that: clouds. The effect is called a 'fire rainbow', it's a circumhorizon arc, as previous posters have mentioned.

          I'm surprised you haven't started ranting about chemtrails.
        • Cige, on 05/21/2008, -1/+1It is possible that there is a connection, but even if there is it would still be nearly impossible to predict how things like the eruption would cause an earthquake, etc. Butterfly effect and all that.
    • dynatos, on 05/20/2008, -6/+16when you see it you'll ***** bricks
    • Stonekeeper, on 05/20/2008, -3/+12ok. no need to haarp on about it...
    • giggitydiggity, on 05/20/2008, -8/+5it's just a ***** rainbow. ...and what's with the music?
      • RussellDovey, on 05/20/2008, -1/+4If it's a rainbow, why is it straight? And why is the sun so high in the sky? Think again, mate.

        Oh, and the music is being played in the background of the video, in China. Strangely enough, Chinese people play music sometimes. They also have cameras in their cellphones.
        • Misanthrope, on 05/20/2008, -1/+4Because it's a "fire rainbow" which look exactly like this and is seen when the sun is...wait for it...high in the sky!

          Yay for the truth!
        • kineticworm, on 05/20/2008, -0/+2What a dick you are. It only says China in the heading. Looks like a ***** rainbow to me.
        • Misanthrope, on 05/20/2008, -0/+2Because it's a "fire rainbow" which looks exactly like this and is caused when the sun is...wait for it...high in the sky! So there ya go "mate".

          Yay for the truth!
    • toeppen, on 05/20/2008, -1/+17Earthquake Lights are a confirmed geophysical phenomenon according to the USGS.

      http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learning/faq.php?catego ...
      • viderian, on 05/20/2008, -2/+1These look like a Circumhorizontal arc, not earthquake lights. Earthquake lights are blueish flashes not rainbow-colored clouds.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumhorizontal_arc
      • diggB, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1What are the possibly theories behind the lights?

        FTA.

        "Proposed mechanisms include piezoelectricity, frictional heating, exoelectron emissions, sonoluminescence, phosphine gas emissions, and fluid injection (electrokinetics), but the most recent theory suggests that EQL are caused by separation of positive hole charge carriers that turn rocks momentarily into p-type semiconductors (first and second references below)."
    • protogenxl, on 05/20/2008, -1/+1It's actually GRAZER 1 firing. Quick someone call Steven Seagal.
    • finaldarkone, on 05/20/2008, -4/+1It certainly is a good thing that your baseless speculation is based in science. Go back to church moron!
    • thetanbark, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1Cloud iridescence?
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iridescent_Cloud
    • boerema, on 05/20/2008, -2/+1http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumhorizontal_arc
    • Sharky35, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1For all the DILDOESQUE haters:
      Here is a blurb from Harvard.

      http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2005AtmRe..76..438K
    • exronin, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1Could just be a crappy cameras, or its Jeebus!
    • brundlefly76, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1Setting sun refracting through moisture in cloud = rainbow patterns.
      Not a harbinger of natural disaster, everyday physics.
    • hikikomori26, on 05/22/2008, -0/+0I've seen this many times before when camping in the mountains. Where there's not so much smog.
  • maddvibe, on 05/20/2008, -12/+28spooky
  • orientis, on 05/20/2008, -10/+422Obviously discharge from the Earthquake Beam.
    • sipofsoma, on 05/20/2008, -7/+15If true, then these earthquake beams probably aren't very good for the environment and should be reserved only for especially necessary genocidal events.
    • CrazedLeper, on 05/20/2008, -23/+34I don't think Project H.A.A.R.P. should be taken so lightly. The US Army has demonstrated time and time again that it will do absoloutely anything to kill masses of people with no qualms.
      • elipabst, on 05/20/2008, -7/+43Yes, I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that two tectonic plates are colliding in that region and have already created the highest mountains in the world. Makes much more sense that it was caused by a US radar installation with secret powers to shake millions of tons of earth and rock. They also decided it would be a great idea to secretly test it by killing thousands of Chinese people, rather than using it in some part of the ocean or Nevada desert.
        • supersoyboy, on 05/20/2008, -3/+24enough of your science. god put those plates there because of all the gays.
        • diggingaround, on 05/20/2008, -8/+3"...installation with secret powers to shake millions of tons of earth and rock.."

          I'm no conspiracy guy, but.. I guess you have never heard of "Resonant Frequency"?

          Something interesting to read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical_resonance# ...
        • mistergoomba, on 05/20/2008, -0/+5but how do you explain that the clouds are red, white and blue? huh? well?
        • CrazedLeper, on 05/20/2008, -1/+1They tested the first nuclear weapons in the desert and, when they were successful, dropped them on 2 cities full of lving people. If they have an earthquake machine, we have every reason to believe they would do likewise. You need to stop watching the k`news and get informed.
        • namegotstolen, on 05/20/2008, -1/+1They dropped the two atomic bombs on a nation we were at war with, to avoid invading the japanese mainland. This is simply an earthquake.
      • badassninja, on 05/20/2008, -5/+4http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnRPZOUVhJ4
        • elipabst, on 05/20/2008, -4/+15Yes I watched one of the other HAARP conspiracy videos. I generally put these things into a category that I call "lazy intellectualism" because they are pseudoscience enough to actually sound kind of plausible, unless you do about 2 minutes of research and realize that they're utter ridiculous (like Loose Change). Why? An 8.0 earthquake outputs over 4.0 exajoules (10^18) of energy. That is a ***** of energy. With something like HAARP, you'd be using resonance to transfer electromagnetic energy into vibrational (kinetic) energy in the rock. So even if your transfer was 100% efficient, you'd need to input that amount of energy, unless somehow HAARP can defy the laws of thermodynamics. So HAARP would need to have an exawatt power supply, which is roughly 1 million times more energy than the entire world consumes in a year. I'm going with Occam on this one.
        • Arcan, on 05/20/2008, -1/+3@elipabst
          You forgot to sign as "Summer Glau"
          (Bravo, by the way)
        • orientis, on 05/20/2008, -1/+3Hahah elipabst owned this subject.
        • SlimFastForYou, on 05/20/2008, -0/+3After checking out the video and reading your response, I fell slightly compelled to play devil's advocate...

          If you throw dynamite into a volcano that already has some stress, you just might hit the jackpot and cause an eruption. Chain reactions, for lack of a better term, happen. Take the environmental disaster in Louisiana for example, where a lake and much land was swallowed up just by drilling a hole in the ground ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4Of8cm0kS8 ). The HAARP video may seem a little out there, but your response seems to have ignored what the video said. Maybe you didn't watch much of it, but starting at 1:40, it says something very interesting and shows a picture of nearly identical phenomenon while the voice talks about attacks on enemy countries. Also note that this video was added over a year before the quake.

          Imagine knocking over roughly 1 million dominos. It sure would take a LOT of energy to do that if you knock them from their side one by one. But flick just one domino from the front, and a lot of work is performed, and a lot of effort is needed to correct the aftermath. If the atmosphere is absorbing enormous amounts of rays, and not much energy is needed to divert the field, the proverbial floodgates are opened. And just as explosions (or drilling) can cause volcanic eruptions, they can cause earthquakes as well. If I understand what badassninja is saying, well placed underground dynamite and well targeted underground resonance can have a similar effect.
        • diggingaround, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1@ elipabstelipabst ....

          I know that Hoover dam can't run the HAARP project as you put it. But you have forgot to mention the wast amount of energy already existing as a charge between ionosphere and Earth surface. Your average thunderstorm, releases about 10,000,000 kilowatt-hours (3.6×1013 joule) of energy, which is equivalent to a 20-kiloton nuclear warhead. I'm no expert on subject... but why use electric plug on earth, if its possible to tap into one on the sky. Besides if the region was already instable you don't need to apply that amount of energy... just "pull" the wsingle card from the house of cards.
      • erydan, on 05/20/2008, -6/+1That's what Army's do.
      • jebus123, on 05/20/2008, -2/+2As you can see, my young apprentice, your friends have failed. Now witness the firepower of this fully ARMED and OPERATIONAL H.A.A.R.P. system

        Fire at will, Commander!
      • zeIdiot, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1Oh, I thought he was talking about the weapon from the Train in Under Siege 2. But we'll be fine, the world is full of Casey Rybacks.
    • blitz718, on 05/20/2008, -8/+7shoop da woop
    • tyywebb, on 05/20/2008, -6/+10Laserz chargin'.
    • leffunov, on 05/20/2008, -6/+1Was that when the fireworks factories exploded? Because they would explain that
    • Stormwern, on 05/20/2008, -4/+1Question is, was it the martians or neptunians?
    • Intrexed, on 05/20/2008, -2/+1god did it ...doiiii
  • Happy_Phantom, on 05/20/2008, -32/+5The Wrath of God!
  • doremon313, on 05/20/2008, -8/+25I guess it would be good for future reference, but 10 minutes is till not enough warning. >_
    • mparker7410, on 05/20/2008, -0/+8It's more than enough time to get out of a building and brace yourself.
      • stienster, on 05/20/2008, -0/+2but it's only a warning if you happen to be looking up at the sky for that one minute while it lasts...
    • AzureRise, on 05/20/2008, -1/+5Long enough to go Grand Theft Auto on someone and jack their helicopter.
    • RTourn, on 05/20/2008, -0/+5It is much better than zero minutes.
      • spydon, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1Are you sure?
        What if everyone panics?
        I don't think enough people have read hitchhikers guide to the galaxy to know that you shoulnt panic...
    • NevaDieENT, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1Well you know if you only had 10 minutes left at least you can get one last quickie.
  • tafkase7en, on 05/20/2008, -36/+93That's called a rainbow which is being reflected on the clouds..
    • bracketdash, on 05/20/2008, -2/+7Refracted you mean? Clouds don't usually reflect light, especially not low-light things (in comparison to the sun) like rainbows with such chromatic detail.
    • KennMac, on 05/20/2008, -3/+3No. See the thread below this one.
    • RTourn, on 05/20/2008, -1/+3Probably, but lets not dismiss so quickly, because if this is what is it claims to be then it could save millions of lives. The world needs a warning system. A good question to ask is where where are these people standing? What direction are they facing? Remember that rainbows will only appear at known angles to the sun and the observer. Then knowing that and the angle of the sun at the time of the shooting we can rule out a rainbow. If this is done, and we rule out rainbow and this is something else it requires millions in testing and more smart people on the subject.
  • Prototek, on 05/20/2008, -3/+148http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthquake_light
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHmHsP1gd8I
    Here is a link to a similar atmospheric effect during earthquakes but these appear as bright flashes. Honestly, those clouds in the link look like normal refraction of light by water vapor a.k.a. rainbows.
    • radish01001, on 05/20/2008, -8/+4How the ***** do people figure this ***** out.

      I feel (and probably am) like such an idiot.

      • Olfster, on 05/20/2008, -1/+3Don't worry we all played with lead toys when we were little.
    • theradical, on 05/20/2008, -4/+1I guess that wiki article needs to be rewritten, as this seems proof (or a good demonstration of probability) to me.
    • RussellDovey, on 05/20/2008, -2/+1Can't be. The sun's in the wrong place, and the "bow" is too straight.
    • boerema, on 05/20/2008, -1/+7This is actually a documented phenomenon in clouds:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumhorizontal_arc
      • Puirtabeul, on 05/22/2008, -0/+0This is an absolutely beautiful phenomenon.
    • Balks, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1Dugg for truthiness.
  • iFrikkenR, on 05/20/2008, -2/+12Relevant your interests...

    http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?p=4169 ...


  • Me0wmix, on 05/20/2008, -9/+153Thats xenu's message telling them to get the ***** out of there.
  • mjklaser, on 05/20/2008, -9/+2Where are Dorothy and Toto?
  • danielberg, on 05/20/2008, -19/+7dude, i don't have time to click on all these links...
    • choopie911, on 05/20/2008, -1/+13Then why the ***** are you on digg? Isn't that 99% of what you do on digg?
    • pnunn, on 05/20/2008, -3/+11Yeah- the pot leaf avatar SCREAMS "this is a man who has little time to waste"...

      Dude...
    • coresnake, on 05/20/2008, -0/+3Careful man, theres a beverage here...
  • Heywoodj, on 05/20/2008, -6/+259Desmond turned the key?
    • pacificislandr4, on 05/20/2008, -2/+45Aye Brotha.
    • phrenzy, on 05/20/2008, -3/+19Locke was wrong.
    • boejangles, on 05/20/2008, -1/+8If you look at 2:42 you'll see the smoke monster moving in tree.
    • cannabrain, on 05/20/2008, -1/+4awaiting instruction from the island
    • antonycao, on 05/20/2008, -1/+9Hi, emm..Is this the place where LOST fans hang out? Count me in!
  • dha07030, on 05/20/2008, -11/+15Big disasters make people crazy, God did it!
    • AlienMushroom, on 05/20/2008, -2/+2***** evil god.
    • coresnake, on 05/20/2008, -0/+5Simpsons did it
    • CorneliusBear, on 05/20/2008, -0/+5This Rainbow Cloud is just God's way of telling the people of China he still loves them, even though their sins are about to be punished by a devastating earthquake.

    • DarkDx, on 05/20/2008, -2/+17chan did it!
    • ZiggyDaZigster, on 05/20/2008, -1/+3I believe what CorneliusBear is right, seriously, you know every time you download music illegally, god kills a kitten, I mean thats like a fact. It only makes since he'd sneeze out a beautiful rainbow before he killed 100,000 people... ouch though thats a horrible reason for, "Population Control" Shame God.
  • kmckanna, on 05/20/2008, -9/+7This is just one of those things that kind of gives me the chills.
  • provost, on 05/20/2008, -5/+199next time you see a rainbow, run for the open plains. If anyone asks what you are doing tell them you learned it from chinese clouds, and just keep hauling ass.
    • forceuser, on 05/20/2008, -1/+12I laughed out loud a bit when I read that.. good job
    • diggingaround, on 05/20/2008, -3/+2Just stay away from San Francisco!
    • inswva, on 05/20/2008, -0/+2Easily the funniest thing I've read in awhile. Bravo.
    • jaymzdean, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2That sounds like "deep thoughts from Jack Handy", in a way.
      LMFAO.
      Thanks.
    • primary0, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1else wait and ***** bricks!
  • coheedcollapse, on 05/20/2008, -34/+106It's God's way of saying, "Hey, here's something special for you before I devastate your family and rip apart everything that you've ever worked for."

    That guy is such a bastard.
    • IHaveCrayons, on 05/20/2008, -19/+3Who was talking about God in this article?
      • coheedcollapse, on 05/20/2008, -4/+10Well known fact, Christians think that God displayed a rainbow to Noah as a promise never again to destroy the world with a flood. I took the fact that the glowing clouds looked like a rainbow and ran with it. Yeah yeah, floods and earthquakes have nothing in common, but they're both natural disasters. Whatever.

        Also, it's less of an article and more a Youtube video. It won't be long until someone on there seriously associates it with god.
        • jrackow, on 05/20/2008, -4/+2I thought so, too. But, not too many people doing that. Would that be wrong, or bad if they did, though. I mean, you're thinking it, I'm thinking it, I bet a lot of people are. So, is that bad? Weird rainbow before big disaster, let's talk about it. God is not destroying the world with a flood, or an earthquake, nor did he in Myanmar 9 days previous with a cyclone. Nor did He destroy the world in Louisiana, or Indonesia. You must admit that there's a lot more happening in greater succession, though, than any of us can remember. Pretty sure the bible talks about that happening. Ironically 60 years after Israel becoming it's own nation. Same God who sent the flood also sent His Son Jesus to die for us. He asked Abraham to sacrifice his son, but then saw his willingness and told him not to. But God went through watching His own Son go through that. He's not a bad God. You seem bitter, coheed.
        • coheedcollapse, on 05/20/2008, -0/+2My comment was very tongue in cheek. I'm not bitter at all. Rather, I'm an incredibly happy guy doing what I love and living with the woman that I love in a place that I love. I don't need a religious lecture, I grew up around the stuff and took a class or two on it in college.
        • aQuib, on 05/20/2008, -1/+1"I'm not bitter at all. "...i doubt that. most atheist are bitter and cling to their faith in mathematical impossible events like accidental life and random lucky mutations evolving life.
        • doctornado, on 05/20/2008, -0/+0I'm agnostic and I'm not bitter at all. I spent most of my short life believing in God, was atheist for a while, then went back to being very intensely into Catholicism. I did a lot for my faith and went to church all of the time, but one thing I did not do was try to convert everyone. However, I did have atheist friends who were supposedly my best friends who would often try to change my beliefs and it bothered me often. However, I haven't run into that behavior with every atheist and I have not run into converting behavior with every religious person either.

          But I'm not bitter or clinging to anything. I feel like science nor religion nor philosophy can ever completely account for everything and that there are a lot of questions to be answered, and I'm open to seeing every possible explanation for those things. In fact, I've been spending a while trying to convince myself to believing in Yahweh again, but just because I haven't been able to yet doesn't mean that I'm bitter and clinging to science.

          I think it's really judgmental of you to say that, unless you were trying to be sarcastic without making it obvious enough and your meaning got lost because this is the internet. It's like if I were to say that all who believed in Yahweh clung to impossible ideas like creationism or it's supposedly scientific mirror "intelligent design" and rejected all things scientific out of fear that there could be no happy medium between science and religion, out of fear that science would disprove religion and what they lived for and believed their entire lives. That'd be pretty damn judgmental of me, wouldn't it?
    • curbstompery, on 05/20/2008, -4/+23Must be talking about the Old Testament God. After he had his kid he mellowed out a bit.
      • pseudononymist, on 05/20/2008, -3/+2So what was Adam? Raw meat? Actually it was more likely the getting a virgin pregnant that mellowed him out, cuz man if there ain't a more satisfying experience.
      • Musicmonkey34, on 05/20/2008, -0/+2Yup- and he promised in the Old Testament that He would do that too. Check out Isaiah 54:9-10 ish. But before you jump to conclusions, go ahead an read all of Isaiah. It was never meant to be read as a single line- its a history.

        9 "To me this is like the days of Noah,
        when I swore that the waters of Noah would never again cover the earth.
        So now I have sworn not to be angry with you,
        never to rebuke you again.

        10 Though the mountains be shaken
        and the hills be removed,
        yet my unfailing love for you will not be shaken
        nor my covenant of peace be removed,"
        says the LORD, who has compassion on you.
    • arcooke, on 05/20/2008, -6/+10The funny thing is.. jesus IS a bastard. He was supposedly born from a virgin.. therefore his mother never had sex.. therefore he has no father. Silly christians. One day you'll open your eyes and see that your god is no different from the thousands of other mythical gods in history.
      • jrackow, on 05/20/2008, -13/+4There's actually a lot of reasons to believe in Christianity over other religions. To believe in this God over other gods. For one, even after the death (after 500 claimed to have seen Him resurrected) His followers were persecuted to death. So, the ones that were close to Him talked about all these miraculous things happening... then died for His name's sake. That's a big deal. We're talking people that KNEW Him. Also the 300 some odd prophecies about Jesus written in the Jewish Old Testament. There's a ton other reasons to think so, but there's a few reasons to believe in this God over others.
        • AzureRise, on 05/20/2008, -2/+3Back in your hole!
        • supersoyboy, on 05/20/2008, -1/+0you're like the first christian dude i seen on digg
        • DarkDx, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1Don't argue about religion in the interwebs, they' will all crush you down. You just keep your beliefs to yourself and don't even mention it in the interwebs.
        • monkeytennis, on 05/20/2008, -1/+3Briefly:

          1. People die for their beliefs all the time. Doesn't mean they're right.
          2. There are no - repeat NO - independent, contemporary accounts of Jesus. Christians always talk about the Josephus script but this is now widely discredited as either wholly or largely a fabrication by early Christians. So all we have is the bible.
          3. Yes, isn't it strange that despite Jesus apparently fulfilling "300 some odd prophecies" from the Jewish Old Testament, not one single Jewish person who Jesus was mingling with in turn of the millenium Judea was convinced? Not one Jewish person saw fit to write any of this miraculous stuff down? Or perhaps it's in fact more likely that actual events were twisted to fit the earlier prophecies by early Christians eager to win over the Jews to their new religion? No?
      • Alegoo92, on 05/20/2008, -6/+2Really, your kind needs to be put to rest. Atheists should be able to live without preaching their ***** to anyone who even mentinos.. doesn't even claim to have faith in.. God.
        Come the hell on- it's disgusting.
      • archivist, on 05/20/2008, -5/+2how does that make Jesus a bastard?
    • ell0bo, on 05/20/2008, -0/+2yeah, he has a killer sense of humor.
    • nzhamstar, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1lawl! so tru
    • irishjays, on 05/20/2008, -0/+2It's like those miserable psalms, so depressing...
    • DeFex, on 05/20/2008, -1/+1sorry cant come to the pray-0-phone right now, on a smiting holiday in china.

      please press 1 if you have illness.
      press 2 if for family tragedy.
      press 3 to pray for your sports team to win.
      please press 0 for all other messages,

      your calls will be ignored in the order in which they are received.
  • itsripitsrip, on 05/20/2008, -4/+29it's called a fire rainbow. google image search it. it forms when the sun is high in the sky and the clouds are stratus type i believe.
  • euphioquestion, on 05/20/2008, -3/+14Alien spectral trail.

    Yep.
    • PixelMagic, on 05/20/2008, -0/+2Do you know what type leaves a green sugar water spectral trail?
    • PixelMagic, on 05/20/2008, -0/+2I don't suppose you know what kind of alien life form leaves a green spectral trail and craves sugar water, do you?
    • thecarpe, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1What you saw was not alien. Swamp gas refracted some light from Venus...

      Cuz you know what? You left him! And you're gonna go into town and get a facial and buy a dress, and call someone in here to do something with these curtains, cuz, da'amn!
  • MrTito, on 05/20/2008, -1/+138Side effects of moving the island.
  • androothebear, on 05/20/2008, -39/+9Clear evidence of the existence of god

    LOL I AM A DIGGER AND I AM NOT AN ATHEIST! DIGG ME DOWN PLZ
    • bjornski, on 05/20/2008, -1/+13This is "proof"?

      Color me unimpressed.
    • bokep, on 05/20/2008, -1/+13Wish granted, attention whore.
    • diggrnumber1, on 05/20/2008, -6/+2i dugg him up just because he asked to be dugg down. but that might have been his intention all along. either way, it's great trolling strategy.
  • JBabin3xB, on 05/20/2008, -4/+32Whats in the sky daddy?

    Oh son thats just a rainbow made of fire
    • AzureRise, on 05/20/2008, -0/+2KILL IT WITH- um, damn, what do we do now?
  • Topheroo, on 05/20/2008, -13/+6Uhh... What's so special? It's just a rainbow.
  • vexingmodstwo, on 05/20/2008, -6/+38I can totally see how an earthquake that hasn't happened yet would cause weird rainbows... wait.. no I can't.
    • jrackow, on 05/20/2008, -9/+1I think the potential significance is a sign of a higher power, not so much the scientific explanations of cause. Sure it has one, but that's not what's interesting. The timing of it, that's what's interesting.
    • khyberkitsune, on 05/20/2008, -0/+2Just like you can totally see the sky turn green right before a tornado. Oh, you probably live in an area where you don't get tornadoes. I just moved to Cali, and we had a magnitude 4 earthquake (nothing, really) the sky had the same clouds.
    • kris33, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthquake_cloud

      "Since 1994, Zhonghao Shou, a retired Chinese chemist living in New York, has made dozens of earthquake predictions based on cloud patterns in satellite images, and claims to have a 70% accuracy.

      Stress and friction in the ground can vaporize water long before the earthquake happens, according to Shou, and clouds formed through these mechanisms are distinctively shaped. He has identified five different types of earthquake cloud, including "line-shaped", "feather-shaped", and "lantern shaped" clouds.

      He claims that an earthquake will take place within 103 days of the appearance of one of these clouds, and that the average time is 30 days. On December 25, 2003, one day before the Bam earthquake, he predicted an earthquake of mag. 5.5+ within 60 days over a fault line in Iran.[1]"
  • Walty, on 05/20/2008, -11/+4Well its definitely not clear evidence of the existence of God, but it does seem pretty odd.

    It'd be interesting to see whether this sort of thing was seen alot in the area. If it was just a one time event before the earthquake there is obviously something very mysterious and very interesting to check out.
  • archivist, on 05/20/2008, -1/+36they dont make rooftops like that anymore
    • davidg11, on 05/20/2008, -3/+6They just don't make rooftops like that anymore...oh no!..uh uh!...they just don't make rooftops like that anymore....

      We been living together for a thousand years
      Uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh
      But now it looks so strange out in the atmospheres
      Uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh
      And then the jukebox plays a song I used to know
      Uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh
      And now I'm staring at the bodies as they're piling up slow
      Uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh

      They don't make rooftops like that anymore
      They just don't make rooftops like that anymore
      • stienster, on 05/20/2008, -0/+2I hear ya man. We're way out in our own super nova fairytale land... way too much shock exposure. Nothing is real anymore until it hits us personally and we see bloody bone.
  • topace3000, on 05/20/2008, -3/+4Look like semi-normal rainbow-esq refraction through clouds. On the other hand, there's so much we don't understand about earthquakes and how the earth functions. How do animals know they're coming, for example?
    • Logicexe, on 05/20/2008, -2/+4The animals don't know. The evidence of this seems to point squarely at confirmation bias. You hear someone mention this sort of thing, and then when an earthquake hits you think "gee, Fido was acting a bit funny that afternoon." You forget all the times that an earthquake hit while Fido was not acting funny and all the times when Fido acted funny when no earthquake hit.

      It's not an implausible idea. If the phenomenon exists it could simply be that they're picking up some very low frequency sound or something, but for now it seems to be nothing but confirmation bias.
      • topace3000, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/11/11 ...

        http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learning/topics/animal_ ...

        Seems there is significant anecdotal evidence that points towards many animals having ways to detect earthquakes before the primary event. You can't simply discard the entire idea as confirmation bias when it has neither been proved nor disproved. Birds evolved to use the earth's magnetic fields to migrate, it seems that interferences in the plate's regular behavior are likely detectable by means we have yet to develop.
        • Logicexe, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1I never said it was implausible, just that there is no demonstrated phenomenon that cannot be explained by simple confirmation bias. Anecdotal evidence is extremely sensitive to logical failings like confirmation biases. As they say, the pleural of anecdote is anecdotes, not data or evidence.

          I find it totally plausible that some animals might be able to sense coming earthquakes. I'm not discarding the idea, I'm simply stating that there is no evidence of such a phenomenon actually occurs. When there exists actual data (not anecdotes) I'll change my mind.
  • DreamVsPs2, on 05/20/2008, -4/+15if you see rainbow clouds, f***ing run ( youtube comment)
    • AlienMushroom, on 05/20/2008, -0/+2Errr, I have seen that a lot in my town. No quake yet.
  • Osirus1156, on 05/20/2008, -0/+3I hope I never get to see that in person if it really was caused by a massive earthquake.
  • sonofabeast, on 05/20/2008, -9/+49HAARP
    • atbnet, on 05/20/2008, -2/+5I forgot all about HAARP. I knew the US government was behind the quakes.
    • Dugahol, on 05/20/2008, -2/+6Its possible! Many Scientists have said that it could be used this way... and it is controlled by Americans :) Watch this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecLwVgvvTvU particularly around the 5:30 mark. Scary to think about really
    • stienster, on 05/20/2008, -1/+2HAARP was my first thought also
    • badassninja, on 05/20/2008, -1/+2http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnRPZOUVhJ4
    • coresnake, on 05/20/2008, -3/+1ITS A HAARP!!!
    • Infidelcastr0, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1Bastard, you beat me to it.
    • archivist, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1i thought it was a M.A.D. tank...
    • TremorX, on 05/20/2008, -1/+1I doubt the conspiracy-theory version of HAARP exists, but the fact that I would not be surprised that our current government would use it like this if it did is very telling and kind of depressing.
    • ricorodriguez, on 05/20/2008, -1/+3You guys are so dumb. I know its convenient to blame everything on America but an earthquake...really?
      • atbnet, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1When the tsunami hit in 2004 some people were saying the US was conducting underwater nuclear testing which caused it. Then again in 2003 when Columbia was destroyed people said Saddam blew them up.
    • ssj2119, on 05/20/2008, -0/+2beat me to it also
  • rheaume, on 05/20/2008, -0/+9Better video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzVamNQzfYA&feature ...
  • bokep, on 05/20/2008, -6/+6Somewhere in this world, the Loose Change guy is plotting to strike again...

    *Cue sinister laughter
  • namar777, on 05/20/2008, -4/+8Wow! God even setup a warning system!! Keep ur eyes open, BIG BROTHER is communicatin' ... literally this time!! lol
  • lazlonger, on 05/20/2008, -0/+10i like to put on this video, since it's nice and long, and then walk around the room pretending I'm at a party in China, listening ot the conversations and that wonderful music....
  • patthew, on 05/20/2008, -1/+6So is this like the Smoke Monster from Lost's gay Chinese cousin?
  • jdmcadam, on 05/20/2008, -11/+2Another video from Gansu province, from about 10 minutes before the quake. Video quality not as good, but the colors are better
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU
  • alienunknown, on 05/20/2008, -1/+24Maybe it was a fire rainbow?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumhorizontal_arc

    I doubt it actually had anything to do with the earthquake.
    • john1, on 05/20/2008, -0/+2Yep, looks exactly like a fire rainbow to me. I just wish I'd had a camera (still or video) with me the last time I saw one. Makes a nice change from your standard rainbow.
    • andy78, on 05/20/2008, -1/+2the clouds in the images look exactly the same as in the video to me.. i vote fire rainbow. case closed.
  • riversc, on 05/20/2008, -2/+3it creeps me out whatever that was.
  • hemetae, on 05/20/2008, -6/+11Similar cloud patterns were seen in Chili before the volcano went berserk, & also seen in Mexico before various quakes. Not that big of a freak out, just something we don't get to study much because of it's randomness.. eventually this will just be considered typical, normal phenomena that accompanies seismic activity. Remember, we haven't cataloged every form of phenomena that exists.. thank god there are still a few things out there that 'seem' mysterious.
    • sdipaola, on 05/20/2008, -0/+5Can you substantiate your claim about Chili and Mexico, my quick Google research showed discussions of lighting and flickering not rainbow clouds. I could be wrong , show me your evidence.
    • knobwrangler, on 05/20/2008, -1/+1I am also interested in that. Please show me where you found that info!


      ps..... And NO, I am not a Fed! Or am I?

      /suspense
  • Dan137exe, on 05/20/2008, -0/+8What? No experts on glowing color-cloud phenomena? You're kidding.
  • HastyBoom, on 05/20/2008, -2/+2Coincidence?
  • Rodalli, on 05/20/2008, -9/+2Definitely the aliens trying to warn the Chinese. "luk out u gaiz!!!1"
  • pyry, on 05/20/2008, -0/+8The song in the background is apparently 阿弥陀佛谢谢你. Can anyone translate or transliterate that? Sounds pretty.
    • theundone, on 05/20/2008, -0/+2I too thought the music was pretty. I'd be interested in knowing what it is.
      Google translates it as "Thank you Amitabha", but I haven't found anything else yet.
    • ketsugi, on 05/20/2008, -1/+3Well the the title roughly translates to "Thank you, Amitabha Buddha".
      • pyry, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1Unrelated, do you speak a lot of Mandarin? How comprehensible is the language spoken in the video? I saw comments along the lines of "Hoho, silly dialect", and how it's not Sichuan. I know the dialect/language name situation is a bit whacky in China, so I'm curious.
    • pyry, on 05/20/2008, -0/+3Found it! Here's the music:

      http://buddha.goodweb.cn/music/musicdownload6/jl2_ ...
  • Betrayer, on 05/20/2008, -5/+7its a TIMETRAIL, left behind when time machines travel back in time.
    why else would they appear 10-30 minutes before the quake?
    • kansai22, on 05/20/2008, -1/+1You know I actually thought that for a second could be for all we know.
  • Requench, on 05/20/2008, -1/+12Hmm, run away in fear of earthquake or run towards it in hopes it's raining gold? Tough call personally.
  • dagnome1984, on 05/20/2008, -2/+2Those must be those NWO clouds conspiracy theorists have been talking about. :P
  • hypermog, on 05/20/2008, -0/+3"The methane emissions really pick up the colors..."

    - The Mask
  • matt.rubin, on 05/20/2008, -2/+1Or from pollution?
  • pauls01, on 05/20/2008, -2/+3Aren't these clouds called "nacreous clouds"?

    See: http://www.atoptics.co.uk/highsky/nacr1.htm
    • Otik, on 05/20/2008, -0/+2They look more like circumhorizontal arcs to me. These typically form when sheets of aligned ice crystals in high altitude clouds are hit at precisely the right angle by the sun, but I doubt that either these or your nacreous clouds could really be affected by seismic events. Perhaps electric/magnetic fields produced by forces within minerals could encourage the ice crystals to arrange into sheets?

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumhorizontal_arc
  • alieneggsac, on 05/20/2008, -4/+4I think Scully and Mulder are investigating this alien invasion business.
  • R4wBon3, on 05/20/2008, -1/+1With the background music, I couldn't help hearing Cindi Lauper - True Colors...

    Did this happen for anyone else?
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