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- BorsKaegel, on 01/05/2009, -1/+28He is just preparing for the machines to take over.
- stutimandal, on 01/04/2009, -23/+45and gets bankrupt in the process.
- Dylson, on 01/05/2009, -1/+21GET TO THE CHOPPA YA YA YA YA YA YA
- bugsy187, on 01/05/2009, -2/+21i don't think environmentalism is causing the bankruptcy problems these days...
- Isidore, on 01/05/2009, -5/+21They said this when better car emission standards were proposed. But it didn't cause bankruptcy - just improved technology.
- PhrosTT, on 01/05/2009, -0/+14So can we list every Arnold pun ever?
- bugsy187, on 01/05/2009, -1/+14I just want to point out that US spending on social programs is miserly compared to other first world nations. On the other hand welfare for corporations and tax loopholes for the wealthy are common. They often mean they pay no net tax money. If there's a kind of spending the US excels at particularly, it's military spending. This government allocation of funds roughly matches the military spending of the rest of the world combined. Unfortunately this "defense" money could have been diverted to schools, hospitals, libraries and other infrastructure that adds to the well-being of US society. Instead, blank checks are given to KBR Haliburton and tax money is essentially stolen.
- tonmil, on 01/05/2009, -5/+16Go Aanld
- bugsy187, on 01/05/2009, -2/+12Factories are shutting down because we keep shipping jobs abroad and allow wages to erode because it "helps" large companies. It's great for short term profit, but harmful to most people in the long run. I don't see how Arnold is fully responsible for that.
- ElHeffe, on 01/05/2009, -0/+9If it bleeds, we can kill it
- georgemason01, on 01/05/2009, -0/+9STOP WHINING!
- Isidore, on 01/05/2009, -8/+17Maybe the Governator checked with the rocket scientists
http://globalclimatechange.jpl.nasa.gov/evidence/ - eatinshramps, on 01/05/2009, -6/+14Who is your daddy....and what does he do?
- novenator, on 01/05/2009, -4/+10but once those standards are in place, EVERYONE benefits
- BananaGrabber, on 01/05/2009, -3/+9Why does fora.tv keep making the front page?
- MoisturePoints, on 01/05/2009, -1/+7Here come keywords: "flat-earther", "denier", "dumbass", "regressive" in 3...2...1...
- BigCheezy, on 01/05/2009, -1/+6They have a lot of great lectures, discussions, etc. I love perusing them in my free time, and quite a few are Digg worthy. Would you prefer screenshots of Digg comments?
- 007brendan, on 01/05/2009, -0/+5@bugsy187
U.S. manufacturing wages have always been higher than other countries wages. Why weren't U.S. jobs being exported from 1940-1975? Corporate taxes were low, credit was scarce, and companies invested nearly all their profit in R&D, which allowed the U.S. to create manufacturing jobs that couldn't exist in other countries because they simply didn't have the technology. Higher taxes and education decline caused by a federally controlled public school system have crippled the advantage the U.S. had in manufacturing for so many years. - inactive, on 01/05/2009, -0/+5I'M GOING TO RAM MY FIST RIGHT INTO YOUR EMISSIONS!
- ElHeffe, on 01/05/2009, -0/+4He is a Cybernetic Organism, Living Tissue Over Endoskeleton... sorry couldn't help myself
- mohtasham, on 01/05/2009, -3/+7The thing that freaks me out most are those restaurants that use big ass heaters outside to keep their customers warm. The other day, in downtown San Jose in the state of California, I saw a restaurant that had 4 tables outside for their customers, with 4 extremely large haters keeping them warm. I saw a similar situation in San Francisco, too. I don't go out that much to see other restaurants, but I bet there are many of such places. I don't know if making a few more bucks is worth of wasting energy.
- superflydugg, on 01/05/2009, -0/+4dugg for "Washington is asleep at the wheel"
- 007brendan, on 01/05/2009, -0/+4"Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner."
-Ben Franklin
The great thing about a constitutional republic is that even if an ignorant majority elect an ignorant leader through a democratic election, the responsibility of the government has already been defined, so the ignorant leader can't start instituting ignorant programs. UNLESS, we let them ignore the constitution that defines their role in the first place. - lee1060, on 01/15/2009, -0/+4Doesn't this guy drive a Hummer?
- konataXchan, on 01/05/2009, -1/+5http://konatachan.org/share/viewer.php?file=ueaigu ...
Sorry I couldn't help my self. - mnocket, on 01/05/2009, -0/+4He isn't
- inactive, on 01/05/2009, -3/+7CA also leads the way in Fail.
This is a great example, bragging about leading in a fight based on a lie. - Akairenn, on 01/06/2009, -0/+3Starving people = dying people = less people.
Even better.
Less people = less tax income = higher taxes.
*****. You just can't win. - Xviper78, on 01/05/2009, -1/+4...in deaths not caused by shark attacks...
- graeh, on 01/06/2009, -0/+3Your xenophobia and nationalistic over-sensitivity to sovereignty has no actual influence or value in the field of climate science.
Science > your earnest belief in-non-scientific explanations for its current consensus.
You can crow "climate change is ***** about global government carbon tax taking away my freedom science is based on people making ***** up like I do that they feel comfortable believing so I can discredit them due to my projected motivations and flaws in their method!" and bury those who present links demonstrating the credibility of climate science with the belief that scientific understanding is democratic.And you almost certainly will. I wonder if you'll spend 10% of the energy you expend baying against climate change wading through the dry science journals and science magazines which reporto n the journals to establish an opinion informed by said scientists rather than pundits and non-scientists. - wunksta, on 01/05/2009, -0/+3not all the other planets are warming, but the ones that are have other causes
if you REALLY think that the sun is warming other planets, i would love for you to explain how it could do that when its going into a minimum period of activity. - MoisturePoints, on 01/05/2009, -2/+5Ugh. It's gonna take FOREVER to see Skynet.
- rahamm, on 01/05/2009, -8/+11Didn't they run out of money?
- Princeamor, on 01/05/2009, -0/+3GETT DDOOOWWWWN!!!!!
- graeh, on 01/06/2009, -0/+3I don't want to be insulting - but what do you imagine government is for? It provides a framework for a service focused motivation for organisations, while the market provides a profit focused motivation for organisations. The imaginary binary switch some attribute to human beings of "for profit = capable, for government = instantly incapable" is silly.
To say government just "doesn't work" is incredibly broad and to the point of being meaningless even if said by an experience well travelled pol/sci or business icon. There are governments all over the world getting individual programs wrong, but also getting them right. I am left doubtful that you have really put much study into global approaches to governance and the failure and success of explicit approaches.
You're supposed to listen to people who demonstrate insight and capability in the long and short term - sometimes they are service focused, sometimes profit. One upside to the recent economic troubles is how it has highlighted how incredibly wrong large swathes of for profit based enterprises are capable of being - rather than mistake being the sole destiny of government employees. When it comes to matters of quality of life and behaviour of large organisations impacting it - I think there is merit to its study being motivated by service rather than profit. I doubt we'll see much in the way of scientific progress and behaviour influenced based on that from many large for profit organisations compared to service focused organisations. Energy companies are driven to maximise profit and protect and dominate more of their market to that end. They may not have the best interests of science and quality of life at heart you know? Something like... government might be more likely to represent its people that empower it and allow for progress and policy in environmentally sensible service.
Also - Cali is the largest economy in the US - and over the decades has pioneered laws and regulations which have become not just the norm in the USA, but have become the norm throughout the world.
Don't trust anyone to look out for your best interest - but don't distrust government more than private enterprise. Dollar signs aren't a magical ethics inducer. - Ghoztt, on 01/05/2009, -1/+4I live in California and things are seriously messed up.
He's doing this to tax people more. All he knows how to do is tax people and spend money. NOT solve problems.
Just another Al Gore. - 007brendan, on 01/05/2009, -1/+4@bugsy187
U.S. manufacturing wages have always been higher than other countries wages. Why weren't U.S. jobs being exported from 1940-1975? Corporate taxes were low, credit was scarce, and companies invested nearly all their profit in R&D, which allowed the U.S. to create manufacturing jobs that couldn't exist in other countries because they simply didn't have the technology. Higher taxes and education decline caused by a federally controlled public school system have crippled the advantage the U.S. had in manufacturing for so many years. - UselessTrivia, on 01/05/2009, -0/+3ITS NOT A TUMAH!
- graeh, on 01/06/2009, -0/+3No. That's not what the scientists are saying. Do you truly believe that climate change was cooked up as a mechanism to tax people and have larger government so the entire global scientific community went along with it and cherry picked information to support it which they signed off on? Or do you think that maybe the concept of climate change as we discuss it came from the long arduous dry day to day work of scientists over the last hundred or more years each contributing their discoveries into the collective from which a pictur eemerged to be corroborated and tested and refined and agreed on?
- siroki, on 01/05/2009, -2/+4The financial crisis is here because Americans overspent. To fix this, the US must increase export, and decrease import. Export can be increased by exporting vehicles, but those vehicles must meet foreign emission standards, including higher MPG standards (less gas used = less carbon dioxide released).
One way of decreasing import is decreasing oil import, which can be achieved by preventing people from using lower MPG cars. People will probably spend less on gas, have more to spend on American goods.
How will this bankrupt anybody? How will _not_ doing this save anybody? - saranagati, on 01/05/2009, -0/+2I think the bigger reason that we weren't exporting jobs in 40 - 75 was because most of the worlds factories had been demolished during ww2. While the US actually grew the number of factories to produce for the war. During a war one of the first things you want to take out on your opponent is their factories where they can build weapons to attack you with, hence most of europes factories were destroyed and other than japan (who's factories were destroyed too) asia didn't yet have the factories like it does now.
- rufishinjr, on 01/05/2009, -0/+2lol haters.
- normalkid0615, on 01/05/2009, -0/+2Cause when they talk I get all warm and fuzzy inside. Plus he has a wonderful wife. And he is a church going man. And he is a gentleman. And he gives to charities.
My name is the American Voter. - wunksta, on 01/05/2009, -0/+2IM A GOVERNAH YOU IDIOT!
- tray2, on 01/05/2009, -0/+2you kids are soft
- TheMoniker, on 01/06/2009, -0/+2Though there are several special interest pressure groups trying to confuse the public, the facts are (as stated above) that not all of the planets (and their moons) are warming and that the recent warming trend is decoupled from solar irradiance cycles.
See for yourself:
http://www.pmodwrc.ch/pmod.php?topic=tsi/composite ...
And the paper detailing the PMOD composite:
ftp://ftp.pmodwrc.ch/pub/Claus/ISSI_WS2005/ISSI2005a_CF.pdf - UselessTrivia, on 01/05/2009, -0/+2Oh really? Then why did the California Air Resources Board eliminate its zero-emissions vehicle mandate? Way to lead the pack, California. Detroit will have more electric cars on the road than LA by 2015.
- wunksta, on 01/06/2009, -0/+2not at all really, algae as a form of "bio fuel" and trash as well, neither would impact food prices at all, so your argument is limited to corn based ethanol etc, not "bio fuels"
anyway, its hard to accurately judge the use of some food products for oil as driving food prices. higher oil prices drive food prices a lot as well, reducing oil prices would reduce the oil demand and thus make access to food cheaper. how much does our corn impact grain prices in other countries? have you looked at any statistics? or are you just repeating what youve been told? in any case, lower oil prices would spread across to many different commodities and be a significant advantage over some increase in corn. - inactive, on 01/05/2009, -0/+2http://eeuauaughhhuauaahh.ytmnd.com/
- inactive, on 01/05/2009, -0/+2Oh god seocookie.
"Stop listening to the propaganda and start listening to your intuition!! "
Using intuition to explain complex things such as nature is a very, very bad idea. Read up on creationism; it's a laugh and total intuition.
"P.S. Which "scientists" have you spoken to in person on this issue??"
An insurmountable amount, seriously.
"Or has it all been what you've seen on TV, the web, or read in some magazine?"
Do you talk to scientists on a regular basis? Does anyone that isn't in direct contact with them? No. Their results must be publish via media to get to the public like EVERYTHING ELSE.
"Why would I want to have someone with a Bachelor's Degree in Journalism inform me about Einstein's Theory of Relativity?? "
...Really? You think the journalist attempts to learn theoretical physics by himself and then write about it? Don't you think they....oh, i don't know....would set up an interview with an expert on the topic before publishing something that may be very very wrong? That seems to be my experience as a journalism major, and is kind of a reality. Hate to shatter it for you :( -
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