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- awarnick, on 09/07/2008, -1/+19This would be great, but unfortunately, the world does run on oil right now and we may as well use the garbage that is available to supply it, otherwise we will just have to take it out of the ground.
- OfNumbers, on 09/08/2008, -0/+17"Rotting heads, gnarled feet, slimy intestines, and lungs swollen with putrid gases have been trucked here from a local Butterball packager and dumped into an 80-foot-long hopper with a sickening glorp."
That reminds me, Thanksgiving is around the corner. - shawncharles, on 09/07/2008, -0/+15Age doesn't matter as long as it's good content :)
- ketyung, on 09/06/2008, -4/+17The article seems so old, dated April 2006
- awarnick, on 09/07/2008, -0/+9This article might seem old, but the company is still very relative. Changing world technologies http://www.changingworldtech.com/, has been selected as a modern marval by the history channel, http://www.changingworldtech.com/press_room/index. ... and will be feature Modern Marvels on history channel.
- roddack, on 09/08/2008, -0/+8you do know that everything from Asprin to Jet Fuel is made with oil right?
It isn't such an easy source to replace over night it will take a long time. In the mean time we may as well keep turning things into oil while we work on alternate sources. - AndreiOttawa, on 09/08/2008, -0/+8How about turning garbage into oil and then pumping oil back underground? But seriously, we now have this great technology available to recycle the trash and nasty bi-product of food industry. We should use it to full extent.
- inactive, on 09/08/2008, -0/+8Hydrocarbons are hydrocarbons. It's like saying you're going to get a better quality water.
- freshyill, on 09/08/2008, -0/+7relevant, not relative
- HonestAbe, on 09/08/2008, -0/+7And how do you propose we store and transport that energy?
- diggThis77, on 09/08/2008, -0/+5I saw this when it was *new* back in 06, still cool though. I'm still trying to figure out how they're going to scale this down to the size of a blender and put in black letters "Mr. Fusion".
- taketheleap, on 09/08/2008, -0/+5"http://digg.com/environment/Anything_Into_Oil_5"
Fifth time is the charm, eh? - laserdog, on 09/08/2008, -0/+5Once the world is out of oil, America's landfills will be the next great petrolium reserves.
Imagine how much plastic we've squirreled away there... - mechnoch, on 09/08/2008, -0/+4Come and listen to a story about a man named Jed
A poor mountaineer, barely kept his family fed,
Then one day he was shootin at some food,
And up through the ground came a bubblin crude.
Oil that is, *BLACK GOLD*, Texas tea.
Well the first thing you know ol Jed's a millionaire,
Kinfolk said "Jed move away from there"
Said "Californy is the place you ought to be"
So they loaded up the truck and moved to Beverly.
Hills, that is. Swimmin pools, movie stars.
Well now its time to say good by to Jed and all his kin.
And they would like to thank you folks fer kindly droppin in.
You're all invited back a gain to this locality
To have a heapin helpin of their hospitality
Hillybilly that is. Set a spell, Take your shoes off.
Y'all come back now, y'hear?. - Smuikas, on 09/08/2008, -0/+4Probably not as bad as paper mills. Those are the worst - and can be smelled for miles.
- Evicted, on 09/06/2008, -10/+14I really wish people would stop trying to turn things into oil. Its far more environmentally destructive than pulling it out of the ground. Clean energy would be nice, not more greenwashed dirty energy.
- inactive, on 09/08/2008, -0/+4Ah, so if a person were badly hooked on heroin, would just make them stop cold turkey, even though it most likely would kill them...or would you give them methadone to help them off the heroin and on to a healthier life?
Our country is the junkie, the economy is our life and oil is heroin.
Think of biofuels (such as the one in this article) as methadone. - maeveautumn, on 09/08/2008, -0/+3There were complaints of smelliness. "Renewable Environmental Solutions, the subsidiary of Changing World Technologies that runs the Carthage plant, spent $2 million on biofilters, scrubbers, and other odor stoppers. Between July and late September complaints had dwindled from 23 to 5 a week, says Mark Rader, an environmental specialist with the department's southwest regional office."
Sounds like it might smell a bit, but perhaps not as bad as one might expect. - brianmcculloh, on 09/08/2008, -0/+3Someone submit this to Mike Rowe of Dirty Jobs.
- floorman56, on 09/08/2008, -0/+3Every sewage plant in the U.S. should have one of these hooked to it
- WayneCA, on 09/08/2008, -1/+4You have better things to do with animal byproducts and waste than to turn it into oil?
- tpclicker, on 09/07/2008, -2/+5Mmmm...turkey
- NJank, on 09/08/2008, -0/+3RTFA: answer=yes, but they're working on it.
- NJank, on 09/08/2008, -0/+3here's the first line from the article:
"The smell is a mélange of midsummer corpse with fried-liver overtones and a distinct fecal note" - NJank, on 09/08/2008, -0/+3just like everything else, they're predicting that economies of scale bring costs to the consumer down below the refined crude. Two years ago they were approaching competitiveness.
And the depolymerization process works on anything from chicken fat to plastic trash, assuming the plant can tweak it's pressures and temps enough to handle the variety. thus, they could absorb solid waste streams coming from cities and residences. no need for your recyclables to be cleaned and rinsed either.
But, it still ain't cheap. I did a college report on it 11 years ago. it's better now, I don't think there were any real plants then. maybe in another decade they'll be commercially viable. Who knows.
If anyone has a link to a RECENT article, you know, less than two years old, it'd be interesting to see how these guys are doing. Did the local DNR shut them down for being too stinky. - biogears, on 09/08/2008, -0/+3Maybe the Earth's current oil was converted trash pumped down there eons ago by an ancient civilization? Ok, just a thought :()
- frositay, on 09/08/2008, -1/+4Get out more.
- biogears, on 09/08/2008, -1/+4I'm fine with the US drilling for the oil sitting on its own property, but converting other stuff to oil like this sounds like a great idea. And it looks like a private business is making some money at it which tells us its not using more energy that it creates - unlike some crazy plans. More power to them!
- willgonz, on 09/08/2008, -0/+3I wondered where it all went when I flushed the toilet.
- NJank, on 09/08/2008, -0/+2Recent news, the company is filing for an IPO. Article describes some aspects of its business plan, and links to the actually SEC filing where they describe the profit model.
http://digg.com/environment/Anything_into_Oil_Comp ...
link to the SEC filing:
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1387371/000 ... - maeveautumn, on 09/08/2008, -1/+3I heard about this technology back in a biology class I took in 2003. The article says it is pretty efficient, and it does provide a use for what would otherwise be garbage, but it's still not going to be the solution to our energy problems. It just provides us a bridge to supplement what we currently have.
I agree with Evicted. We ultimately need to see over that bridge to the land on the other side by developing better clean energy solutions. - inactive, on 09/08/2008, -0/+2SOYLENT OIL IS TURKEYS!
- buckrogers1965, on 09/08/2008, -0/+2That reminds me, I have turkey jerky, nom nom nom!
- discofreak, on 09/08/2008, -0/+2I lol'd.
- kd1s, on 09/08/2008, -0/+2So Discover is finally discovering TDP. How interesting. It's an amazing process but it does require a significant energy input initially until the oil can be separated out. Then it's pretty much a self fueling process, just keep feeding it garbage and it'll spit out oil, carbon, and other components.
- wiggles, on 09/08/2008, -0/+2This article made the rounds in '06. They had big plans for this technology, but in the past two years, have only their pilot plant to show for it. It's great that they're able to make crude from refuse, but the articles I've read on this say that the process is just not scalable enough. They also have serious issues with emissions. The residents of the town in Missouri where the pilot plant is keep complaining about the stench. There is no panacea.
- floorman56, on 09/08/2008, -1/+3I'm not sure if killing turkeys is the correct answer
It will turn your poop into oil too - Wrathernaut, on 09/08/2008, -0/+2Beverly Hillbillies theme music > Any dictionary
- directrix13, on 09/08/2008, -2/+4That's the point. Taking it out of the ground uses a lot fewer resources (read less energy), than converting turkey guts into oil.
- smurfsahoy, on 09/08/2008, -0/+1They are cutting down on emissions, which probably aren't nearly as bad as a coal plant to begin with. These people getting a lot of complaints surely has a lot to do with them building 2 blocks away from residences.
As for greenhouse gases - the feedstock comes from waste that would have just rotted anyway, and thus released the exact same greenhouse gases (either just into the atmosphere, or as methane, which could be burned for energy at a landfill, either way). Most of the CO2 emissions from oil that comes from here, therefore, are likely neutral. - inactive, on 09/08/2008, -2/+3oh yeah, that's what she said
- lornali, on 09/09/2008, -0/+1Recycling at its best
- smurfsahoy, on 09/08/2008, -0/+1Pressurizing turkey guts needs to be done in outer space... why?
- fadingsignal, on 09/08/2008, -0/+1"In 20 minutes, the process replicates what the deep earth does to dead plants and animals over centuries, chopping long, complex molecular chains of hydrogen and carbon into short-chain molecules. Next, the pressure and temperature drop, and the soup swirls through a centrifuge that separates any remaining water from the oil"
Talk about not being wasteful! Way to get every last molecule. - 2oonhed, on 09/09/2008, -0/+1I would like a higher rez .jpg of the turkey guts, please.
- pox05, on 09/09/2008, -0/+1i also received this story on discover mag. when it was on the cover 2 years ago, but a good article. read it if you haven't already.
- slapthemonkey, on 09/09/2008, -0/+1I would say it is a laudable initiative
- EffYoo, on 09/09/2008, -0/+1Yeah, bury it and let it decompose like we do with all the other garbage. Its GOOD for the environment to fill landfills with decomposable stuff. It's called composting.
Also, junked car parts will not become oil. Hydrocarbons need hydrogen, oxygen and carbon, iron and chromium cannot become oil. This would be used on organic waste, stuff that would be better off composted considering the damage done to the environment to try and turn this into oil. - zadadka, on 09/07/2008, -4/+5subst *.* : useful.oil /silent /quick /resume /green |derivative.log
>error...cannot convert multiple chemical strings... - poogy21, on 09/08/2008, -1/+2Butterball dumps 270 tons of turkey guts a day?!!
Isn't this a sign that we consume too much?! -
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