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- soulpunisher, on 05/02/2008, -3/+67For the love of God put that ***** on one page and make a list!!! I hate clicking through 2 plus pages to read an article. *****
- stretta, on 05/02/2008, -1/+52Short term particle pollution
#1 Pittsburgh
#2 Los Angeles
#3 Fresno
#4 Bakersfield
#5 Birmingham
#6 Logan
#7 Salt Lake City
#8 Sacramento
#9 Detroit
#10 D.C./Baltimore
#11 Eugene
#12 Provo
#13 Chicago
#14 New York City
#15 Cleveland
#16 SanFrancisco
#17 Hanford
#18 Indianapolis
#19 Visalia
#20 Harrisburg
#21 Louisville
#22 Philadelphia
#23 Modesto
#24 State College
#25 Allentown - NoahK, on 05/02/2008, -0/+26Ozone Pollution:
#1 Los Angeles
#2 Bakersfield
#3 Visalia
#4 Houston
#5 Fresno
#6 Sacramento
#7 Dallas
#8 New York City
#9 D.C./Baltimore
#10 Baton Rouge
Year-Round Particle Pollution:
#1 Los Angeles
#2 Pittsburgh
#3 Bakersfield
#4 Birmingham
#5 Visalia
#6 Atlanta
#7 Cincinnati
#8 Fresno
#9 Hanford
#10 Detroit
Short-Term Particle Pollution:
#1 Pittsburgh
#2 Los Angeles
#3 Fresno
#4 Bakersfield
#5 Birmingham
#6 Logan
#7 Salt Lake City
#8 Sacramento
#9 Detroit
#10 D.C./Baltimore
Source: http://www.stateoftheair.org/2008/most-polluted/ (from link at end of article). - nastysquar3d, on 05/02/2008, -3/+18"Although much of the country may have a stereotype of Pittsburgh as a blue collar, steel mill town, Leikauf says that's no longer the case. According to him, more than 80 percent of western Pennsylvania's particulate matter actually drifts from Ohio power plants."
Figures... damn Ohio.
You're good for nothing but Cedar Point! *shakes fist - macbwizard, on 05/02/2008, -0/+6No actually Pittsburgh is one of the cleaner cities in the country: http://www.thetartan.org/2007/4/30/news/green
They did an expose on a similar study that ranked pittsburgh poorly a few years ago. They found out that the sensors were placed right next to the exhaust from some factory. - rson, on 05/02/2008, -2/+8To be honest, I work in downtown Pittsburgh every day and don't notice any "soot" that we have been so graciously deemed as having. Back in the old days when there was a steel mill every mile, maybe, but now, not so much...
- XenophobicAlien, on 05/02/2008, -0/+6http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=4758772 All on one page.
- elipabst, on 05/02/2008, -0/+6That's surprising. With all the choking the Patriots were doing a few months ago I would have thought it was worse.
- btsr7414, on 05/02/2008, -0/+5He is right, from any distance/angle, you never have a view in Pittsburgh that is obstructed by smog. From Mt. Washington, 31st Street Bridge or any other "far away" point from which you can see the city, I have never noticed visible pollution in the air.
- btsr7414, on 05/02/2008, -0/+4Same here. I have been in downtown Pittsburgh 5 or 6 days a week for 6 years now. Never noticed any air quality problems. I previously lived in cities not on the list and the air quality as I perceived it was much worse.
- elWooko, on 05/02/2008, -3/+7Factories? What Factories? Downtown Pittsburgh hasn't had factories for years and years.... There is really only one bad coke plant up the river from downtown about 5-10 miles away...
All I know is that on the worst day in Pittsburgh I can still see the tops of all the buildings from a distance... travel out to LA and try to do the same thing... - SRSco, on 05/02/2008, -0/+3Logan, UT, #6 on the list, only has a population of 40,000 (90,000 including surrounding towns). That's kind of sad to be ranked above giant cities like Detroit, DC, Chicago, NYC, SF, Philly, etc. Of course Logan is situated in a small valley surrounded by mountains that trap the polluted air. But it's still sad.
- InorganicMatter, on 05/02/2008, -1/+4Wow, talk about touching up and picking/choosing the article pictures. Their photo of Dallas looks NOTHING like the city really does. You'd think they lifted that shot straight out of a movie.
- Nothlit, on 05/02/2008, -0/+3The sole reason Pittsburgh tops the list is because of the Clairton Coke Works factory which is half an hour south of the city. The vast majority of its pollution remains local to the little river valley right around Clairton. However, because Clairton is "within the Pittsburgh metro area" it causes Pittsburgh to be highly ranked.
- yakski, on 05/02/2008, -0/+3The article really does not make a lot of sense from a practical experience point of view... Pittsburgh air rarely looks or smells bad anymore except on hot humid summer days and most of the surrounding areas are almost never bad ... Los Angeles is regularly bad within the city and the surrounding areas for a hundred miles to the East are also often ugly... Salt Lake City has regular nasty nasty inversions and this also effects a very large portion of the surrounding communities... in fact when you say Salt Lake it is not really the city itself that you are talking about but the entire valley basin in the area.
Now obviously smell and looks are not a completely scientific way of measuring air quality, but the obvious problem in Pittsburgh is that many of the monitors they use to measure quality are purposefully located near the most polluting industries. This really skews the average air quality for the region. - Sovereign2142, on 05/02/2008, -0/+3It's disappointing that 20% of those cities are in my home state. I wish Pennsylvania would get it's act together and spend some of its money providing clean industry incentives rather than giving the legislature a another pay raise or auctioning off the turnpike.
- xeomage, on 05/02/2008, -0/+3Most news pages have a print button that takes you to a single page view, often without ads... bitching and swearing is cool too, though.
- MrSpontaneous, on 05/02/2008, -0/+3From what I've read, its not that Pittsburgh has gotten worse, its just that LA has improved. I wouldn't be surprised to see this list change again in the next few years.
- Harelin, on 05/02/2008, -1/+4I live in Fresno, #3. There are a lot of Central Valley California cities here - it is mostly because of the geography; the Sierra Nevada mountains trap the pollution in. Our pollution is California's collective pollution, gathered in one place.
- sunnycuts, on 05/02/2008, -1/+4"Pittsburgh's No. 1"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_Qp6amEGLo - zerhynn, on 05/02/2008, -0/+3I know you want it badly, but you're not going to be the next rickroll. Tay Zonday already beat you to it.
- btsr7414, on 05/02/2008, -0/+3Oh, was the article about cities producing the most CO2? I guess I need to work on my reading comprehension.
- slsashrk, on 05/02/2008, -1/+4click the "Print" link, read the whole story on one page, and move on with your life... no need to get all worked up.
- thafooz, on 05/02/2008, -0/+3Boston's air may be OK for a big city - but would you swim in the Charles river or the harbor? Me neither.
- yillip, on 12/06/2008, -0/+2I heard that little children are wrapped in smallpox-laden blankets in Pittsburgh.
- Midgetelf, on 05/02/2008, -0/+2I can ensure you that DFW doesn't appear that bad. They got good lighting at either dawn or dusk plus the mist and finally the smog. Drive through there any day where the conditions aren't right and you can see downtown from miles away. It may be ranked 7th but compare it to LA where you can't even SEE the downtown buildings without a cloud of smog surrounding them...
- JBHasty, on 12/04/2008, -0/+2Pittsburgh might be the worst city ever in the history of the universe
- LeeSoong, on 05/04/2008, -0/+2and people who walk upright on two legs and breath air with lungs...
- nebben, on 05/02/2008, -0/+2Although technically, particulate polloution actually reverses global warming.
I'm just sayin... - bearsinthesea, on 05/02/2008, -0/+2direct link to the map/list
http://www.stateoftheair.org/2008/most-polluted/ - banderwocky, on 05/02/2008, -0/+2So Americans living by the Great Lakes are polluting 10 times more than Canadians in those waters?
Crap. - Nothlit, on 05/02/2008, -0/+2The sole reason Pittsburgh tops the list is because of the Clairton Coke Works factory which is half an hour south of the city. The vast majority of its pollution remains local to the little river valley right around Clairton. However, because Clairton is "within the Pittsburgh metro area" it causes Pittsburgh to be highly ranked.
- ffttoteof, on 05/02/2008, -2/+4Amen. Buried, for that very goddam reason.
- joebaloney, on 05/02/2008, -0/+1Barry Sanders was the baddest running back to ever play the game.
- AtomicTheory, on 05/02/2008, -0/+1#5 Birmingham
ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLL TIDE! - steelystan, on 05/02/2008, -0/+1You are awesome. Thank you. I love clicking on a link that I think is going to be a list to find out I have to read through the entire article with up to 5 pages just to figure the stuff out.
- inactive, on 05/02/2008, -1/+2they need to put out as much ads as possible... the bills don't pay them self u know.
- dmagazzu, on 05/02/2008, -0/+1I liked too but gas is 4 bucks a gal. over here
- joebaloney, on 05/02/2008, -0/+1You will find almost every city in the world nowhere on that list.
- ats314, on 05/02/2008, -1/+2they aren't revealing that cities are polluted, of course everyone knows that. Did you have the top ten list figured out already though or did they possibly "reveal" that to you?
- bizchris, on 05/02/2008, -0/+1Thanks for posting those. It's interesting that San Francisco and Eugene are so polluted, I think of both of them as relatively clean-air cities (but apparently I would be wrong).
It's also worth noting that Fresno, Hanford, and Visalia are within maybe 45 minutes' driving distance. Hanford's not a big town, you'd think just claiming the greater Fresno-Visalia area would do the trick. Also, Modesto and Bakerfield are outliers from there maybe 1.5 hours or so. - akatherder, on 05/02/2008, -1/+218-1
/obligatory - Witchbaby, on 05/02/2008, -1/+2MOVE TO NORTH DAKOTA! No pollution here!!...wait...there's no people here either.
- inactive, on 05/02/2008, -0/+1The article that the ABC article talks about is here:
http://www.stateoftheair.org/2008/most-polluted/ - inactive, on 05/02/2008, -1/+2America has 10 times more people, of of couurse they have more total polution.
- dampeal, on 05/02/2008, -1/+2I've never noticed the particulate pollution either here in Pittsburgh... I remember when the mills were in full swing and you would come out to a car with a thick layer of dust on it, but it's not like that anymore, yes there is dust on the car, but that's common everywhere really... dunno about these findings, the air seems very clear to me... hrmph..
- inactive, on 05/02/2008, -0/+1You will find Boston on the list - just lower than the others. Boston is saved by the Atlantic ocean breezes but that doesn't mean that your local pollution is not bad.If you live next to a busy street your individual exposure could be much greater than the AVERAGE pollution in some larger cities.
- VinceNoir, on 05/02/2008, -0/+1Yeah! How dare they actually try to get us to read the facts! Just give us lists because we're too stupid and too lazy to read an informative article! What do they think they are, journalists?
- homercles337, on 05/02/2008, -1/+2No *****. Ads, ads, ads are why they do it.
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