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- str3ama, on 10/10/2007, -3/+15The majority of the Amazon forest is in Brazil, and sadly they've been harvesting it at an appalling rate. There is a considerable amount of life within the Amazon that has yet to be discovered or rather named, there are actual markets where hunters bring back animals they've caught or hunted which are completely new and don't even have names with the locals. A lot of scientists go to these markets to stake a claim on new creatures that are being discovered, it's much easier then actually going in yourself.
And the Amazon forest (at least 5 years ago, not sure about it now) was so dense that you couldn't find a way to land a helicopter anywhere within - meaning that you have to trek down the Amazon river, and then do a lot of hiking. There was a tribe called the Yanonami that had lived in relative seclusion never having any contact with the outside world, when they first saw a helicopter they feared it to be some sort of giant bird. Over time however, they have become increasingly globalized to the point where the tribe only 'practices' their traditions for tourists. - coffeebot, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12"...with a promise to settle 400,000 homeless..."
President da Silva also quoted as saying, "bwa ha ha ha!" - ISIfunded911, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9A little thing you can do is stop eating at McDonald's, since they purchase a lot of meat from Brazil, that comes from animals raised on huge parts of the Amazon forest turned into pastures.
Also, never buy any exotic wood. Most certifications claiming that no forest has been destroyed in the process are totally fraudulent. - internetass, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8im not an environmental freak but the human race deserves everything it gets after all this raping of the earth we're doing
- suxmonkey, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Round and round and round it goes, always where the money flows.
- Junkyarddawg, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Unfortunately the level of corruption is quite high in Brazil, and nowhere is this more obvious than in how they deal with their environment. This example is only one in a long line of... well, "corruption scandal" isn't the right word, since no-one will be brought to trial and there wont be a public outcry, so let's call it "corruption events".
Another famous such corruption event is the Belo Monte dams, which will completely extinguish dozens of species, including some commercially important ones. The Belo Monte dam is known to not be able to turn a profit, displaces a lot of people, the environment impact study was fraudulent, and a number of local people who've protested the dam have been murdered. However, it will *greatly* enrich some landowners, builders, and the politicians handing out permits.
Business as usual in Brazil. - satx, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Brasil is a "Western" nation.
- ISIfunded911, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4You are very loud, but you do not tell us what you are doing.
I never drove a car.
I only eat organic.
I progressively change my way of life in many little ways to reduce my Earth footprint. - durzagott, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4You're an ass - the ISIfunded911 has a good point. McDonalds, et al, use beef that is reared on destroyed rainforest. These cattle ranches are a huge part of the problem in the Amazon and by boycotting companies that subsidize the rape of these forests you can help do something about it.
That is all. - method77, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3way to go Lula :(
- CiXeL, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4the brasilians couldnt give a ***** less about nature. they chop down the amazon when in brasil and then they come to miami. pave their driveways and cut down all the trees in the yards and have low maintenance scrub planted. it is a known stereotype that they hate yardwork. these same people would have us concrete everglades national park and develop it if it wasnt protected by the federal government. no one here appreciates nature and wildlife. ive concluded that that mindset comes from the fact that they associate nature and wildlife with poverty because when they're poor thats all they are surrounded by. I know one guy who told me cities full of trees are depressing. He much preferred the blue treeless skies resulting from miami's defoliation by latin immigrants.
- TLAKABM, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Reminds of that episode of Futurama where Fry goes to Mars University, and says "The jungles on Mars look just like the ones on Earth," and the Professor replies says "Jungles? On Earth?".
- coffeebot, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2yeah, but you KNOW you'd be first in line if they advertised a TRIPLE BACON amazon burger
- satx, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3I don't deserve *****, and neither do the rest of us who aren't doing the raping. What we ALL need to do is stop the rape.
- liuite, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I was sceptical of Brazil's "land reform" since the early 90s. corruption means even good intentions will not prevail over greed. all along it was a land grab for the ranchers...they move the settlers in, settlers cut down the trees and then the rachers will take over when the settlers abandon the land or in some cases the ranchers hire gun men to evict the settlers
- boobsbr, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2The Amazon rain forest is not the earth's lungs, during night it consumes the oxygen it produces during day. Phytoplankton is responsible for about 90% of the oxygen on the atmosphere: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytoplankton. Look for citation number 2.
The forest has great importance to the water cycle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_cycle) and the health of the rivers.
Now, I would love the international media to come here to Brazil and help monitor and expose this horrible crap and even help inflict economical damage and sanctions, only this way would Brazil learn to protect the biological treasure it owns from the greed of humans.
I am disgusted. - TLAKABM, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Humans are part of the system. The Earth is raping itself. Which I guess means it's masturbating?
- Junkyarddawg, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Shut up spammer.
Here's a real link: http://www.amazonwatch.org/amazon/BR/bmd/
Don't miss page 5, "Impunity and Fear". - iDragonFly, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I find it difficult to enjoy the attempts at humor on this thread due to the tragic event about to occur in Brazil.
- nick111, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Yea - you can actually see the damage on Google Earth - pretty scary. You can also see how the soil under the rainforest is fairly crap. Red dusty stuff. It's a highly evolved ecosystem so the vast majority of the nutrients are in the plant biomass - take it away and you're not left with much else.
- Junkyarddawg, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3You're aware that you're not defending Brazil's right to use its own natural resources, you're defending corruption in the local government. And in fact actual murders.
You can play the "western imperialism" ***** card if you want, just be aware what you're actually defending. - satx, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Yes, I can blame another country for DESTROYING ITS IRREPLACEABLE RESOURCES in the name of "economic growth." The natives have lived there for thousands of years without destroying the forest; there's no need whatsoever to start now.
- FairDinkumMate, on 09/26/2008, -0/+1ATTENTION USA!
Is Brazil the environmental genius of the world - NO.
Is the USA? No - in fact, the USA is arguably the worst polluting country on the planet(removing the argument they are definitely top 3!)
The fact that Americans sit in their McMansions, typing on their PC's about how BAD Brazil is with the Amazon is just ridiculous. If America reduced their greenhouse gas emissions per capita to even the DEVELOPED world's average, there would be much less pressure for the Amazon to cover for it.
Please TRY to achieve some understanding of the issues BEFORE you sprout the crap written above!
I'll try some simple issues:
Greenhouse Gas emissions: Brazil has one of the lowest carbon footprints per capita in the world. Ethanol makes up over 50% of it's vehicle fleet fuels(& NO, sugar is not grown on Amazon land!)
Many people who have grown up in the Amazon can't feed their families an even basic meal of rice daily. They have land, but no food. THEIR immediate options are:
A: Grow crops on the land(need to clear it in which case they can sell the wood & make extra $$$)
B: Run livestock on the land(need to clear it in which case they can sell the wood & make extra $$$)
C: Starve!
D: Receive payment from the carbon producing nations to maintain the rainforest so it can continue to offset greenhouse gases
This is SUBSISTENCE living! The fact that you can even read what I am writing means that you don't live like that. In the absence of option D, what would you choose for your family? - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+4Right, because you live a perfect life. You only use solar and wind power (panels and generators that are manufactured in non-green ways), you only eat organic food (that was probably not truly organic and also was put on a truck that uses fossil fuel to get to market) and you never shower except with captured rainwater (in a rain barrel made of plastic).
Don't try to act high and mighty. You are just as responsible as the rest of us and you deserve the same fate as us. A crime is a crime no matter the severity.
As for "raping the earth" look at it this way. Most people are raping the Earth. We are ***** Earth right up the butt-hole. The "Green Hippies" are just holding her down and fondling her breasts while the rest of us ***** her.
If we could only figure out a way to burn hippies to fuel our cars and homes. - ISIfunded911, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3I always wonder why people who recommend to do something they are not presently doing...do not realize how stupid and pathetic they appear.
But the icing on the cake is that you are not saying anything that directly helps saving the Amazon forest. And of course you do not address directly what I wrote. You really do not care about the Amazon forest at all.
And 7 days ago you dugg a story called: The Internet Has Always Had Loud Dumb People... - Niubai, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1"1940 style racism" ? LOL
- drgmdp, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1you should walk away from your computer once in awhile
- Junkyarddawg, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Why do people keep repeating a joke that wasn't funny when the first three people used it?
- darenotask, on 10/10/2007, -3/+4Lula is a moron, count him out.
The rain forest will go just like all the forests around the globe eventually... just like what has been done to Europe and the north America.. maybe because south America never reached such a full scale industrialization that the Forrest still exists... - FairDinkumMate, on 09/26/2008, -0/+1Stupid, arrogant, ARSEHOLES!
Why is the Amazon so important globally right now? - Because it plays a significant environmental role in offsetting the grrenhouse gas emissions produced by the developed world.
Who produces the most ridiculous amount of greenhouse gase? The US
If you knew anything about Brazi(or South America at all!), you would know that the ones that go to America certainly aren't the same ones that live a subsistence lifestyle in & around the Amazon rainforest.
Arrogant American attitudes like this are why Brazil says "Get stuffed" when the US tries to interfere. Good ideas are thrown out with bad because nobody trusts Americans to provide advice other than that which benefits their own ECONOMIC interest!
Do a little research, throw out the generalizations, try to understand that while you're in your 3 bedroom McMansion some people are seriously struggling to feed their families(3rd world style - not US) and then come back to discuss what is a serious & VERY complicated issue!
Gee am I ANGRY at wankers like you two! - g00dETH3R, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1***** you main stream media!
The Amazon is considered the earths lungs and its deforestation is practically never mentioned, yet my carbon foot print is a big issue. You ***** traitors, its all about trying to tax my breathing and transport, the only green thing you care about is money. - TLAKABM, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2You wanna know how you can reduce it even more? Kill your self.
- teksty32, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2he Belo Monte dam is known to not be able to turn a profit, displaces a lot of people, the environment impact study was fraudulent, and a number of local people who've protested the dam have been murdered.
http://www.teksty32.com/piosenek/journey/index.php - MarkOfTheDead, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1while crying and screaming at itself to please stop.
- CiXeL, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1corruption is a way of life down there. i had a brasilian coworker who told me how she and her brother used to wire up cats to a electrical cord and sit them on a table and plug the cord into the wall to make it jump till it bled from its nose. this is what they did for kicks down there. i was aghast but i didnt say anything.
brasilians are some of THE MOST racist people ive ever met and many of their carnival songs are racist but white people dont know what theyre singing when they go down there for carnival. - TLAKABM, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1Pity it was a bad joke.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1I think I made it pretty clear what I do.
I drive a hybrid car. It runs on coal and Al Gore's tears. The radio is powered by the blubber of baby seals and my windshield washer fluid is concentrated blood of endangered animals.
We will not destroy the planet. We will destroy ourselves or the planet will destroy us. Either way it's win-win. - CiXeL, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1brasil may be technologically advanced but its civilization is very very primitive. 1940s style racism. you are condemned on your hue of skin color.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -6/+3A little thing you could do is stop using your computer. It will save on energy and lower greenhouse gas emissions.
Next time you consider posting a comment just turn off your computer for 24 hours. Saves the Earth and saves from your stupidity. - kaiservunderbar, on 10/10/2007, -6/+2Nobody says anything when western nations over develop their natural resources to the harm of everyone else on the planet. Yet more western imperialism.... Burn Baby Burn !!!!!!
- tabledesk, on 10/10/2007, -8/+3I am digg'd out - I assumed this story had something to do with a forest owned by Amazon.com, which was immediately surprising to me but not wholly unbelievable.
- rrife, on 10/10/2007, -5/+0I didn't know Amazon had their own forest.....guess it makes sense since they got started by selling books.
- SwissCamel, on 10/10/2007, -10/+4Don't worry. I dugg you up for not being a pussy and making an amusing comment.
- UPGR4Y3DD, on 10/10/2007, -20/+9I don't get it. I'm on Amazon.com right now, but I don't see any "logging rights" available for purchase.


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