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- Rotzooi, on 01/03/2008, -21/+141Obviously has to be buried as inaccurate. The earth is barely 6,000 years old.
Signed,
Mike Huckabee - Diggpick, on 01/03/2008, -3/+62This news is 55 millions years old...
- DeskFlyer, on 01/03/2008, -14/+52Also signed,
Half of all Americans - wrenchone, on 01/03/2008, -1/+33I blame Wilma wanting the newest SUV. Gotta keep up with the Rublles.
- tattertech, on 01/03/2008, -4/+24And this is why whatever man has done will pale in comparison to something like the Yellowstone Caldera going off.
- ultralights, on 01/03/2008, -6/+24the climate WILL change, and there is NOTHING we can do about it...... its been happening since the beginning of the earth itself.
- inactive, on 01/03/2008, -3/+20I just bought a fleet of SUV's for all the managers at my tree cutting company.
- SilverStandard, on 01/03/2008, -8/+24No SUV's back then. Natural causes emit more carbon dioxide than humans do.
- jetboyterp, on 01/03/2008, -1/+13"The PETM phase was studied using sediments that had collected on the ocean floor, in what is now New Jersey."
New Jersey...well THAT figures... - Deaus, on 01/03/2008, -1/+11Or maybe 55 million years ago was a strong spike in solar activity, which increased the temperature and carbon dioxide. Anyone who has looked at the numbers knows that solar activity, the temperature of the earth and carbon dioxide levels sync up. For as long as we have records of solar activity this is true. People like Al Gore would have you believe however that the fact that the suns output levels sync up with the heat level of the earth is mearly a coincidence and that the real culprit is CO2.
Come on people. Politicians have agendas and push special interests. Gore is no exception. I'm all about going green, solar panels, wind power, high efficiency cars and getting off oil. But I'm not going to let my hate of OPEC override my ability to see the truth. - Terr01, on 01/03/2008, -0/+9And this is why whatever rman has done will pale in comparison to...
... being hit with an extinction-level comet or asteroid.
... the expansion of the sun in it's red-giant phase.
... a collision with the moon (or moonlets) as the tidal forces dissipate into the sloshing of the oceans.
... a black hole colliding and then growing in the center of the earth.
... the big crunch.
... God deciding to start over.
As you can see, these are all totally valid reasons (along with the caldera thing) for never having to do anything because something huge and bad could always happen.
Oh, wait... - Dumbledorito, on 01/03/2008, -6/+14Would that be with a whole lot of "X"'s?
- aliengoods, on 01/03/2008, -14/+22Was it man-made? Didn't think so.
- SemiSarcastic, on 01/03/2008, -2/+9...We're all going to die.
- inactive, on 01/03/2008, -7/+14Yeah, pay no attention to the sun spitting out more heat and flares than any other point in our lifetimes.
- skews13, on 01/03/2008, -0/+6yeah,but it got better again
- crazywarthog, on 01/03/2008, -2/+8 It's not about science or facts !!! It's about control, power and $$$. After all, who doesn't want to save the planet. A politician's dream scam.
- ness0013, on 01/03/2008, -2/+8You know, I'm all about saving the environment and everything because I truly do believe that humanity can have a profound effect on our carefully balanced habitat. However, mass media has a general tendency to blow things largely out of proportion and this applies even to global warming. I'm not saying that we are completely innocent in these recent fluctuations that are being observed in Earth's climate but I honestly consider many of these changes are simply out of our hands. Our planet has historically shown vast oscillations in weather conditions.
For instance, there is evidence of cultivated peach growth in northern Europe over two millennia ago. And those of you who know anything about peaches, they require moderate to warm temperatures. Freezing will often kill the flowering buds which result in little or no harvest. How would such vegetation be possible today given the harsh temperatures found in such environments? It just simply is not feasible unless our global climate is constantly undergoing change.
Do I believe we have played a responsible role in what we are experiencing in the present? Without question.
Do I believe we are FULLY responsible? Absolutely not.
I encourage all of you as my peers to understand the profound effect that humanity has and may continue to have on our climate but I also encourage you to not be so biased that the important facts become overlooked and disregarded. Go ahead and digg me down you tree loving hippies but understand that I too am very concerned for our future. As a refugee from Hurricane Katrina, I can fully appreciate the raw power of mother nature and how the effects of our careless disregard for our habitat can upset it. Nothing is scarier for me than the thought of human carelessness becoming the culprit for accelerating weather changes that directly result in massive death and displacement. This is something that is being seen today and it has become a truly shocking reality.
Our climate WILL change. - baalzebub, on 01/03/2008, -2/+7methane gas in the atmosphere is a greater threat than carbon dioxide...
- dgh1973, on 01/03/2008, -1/+6"The most likely explanation is that carbon dioxide levels increased as a result of volcanic activity."
Or a previous incarnation of humanoids that went underwater or into space when the ***** hit the fan, only to come back to find a new humanoid race replaced them and thought "wow, this is interesting, let's study them".
Yeah, I'm probably a crackpot. - EtherGnat, on 01/03/2008, -2/+7Yes, man will not destroy the earth, but he could very well destroy mankind.
- Heidenreich12, on 01/03/2008, -6/+11just shows how all the blame on humans for CO2 emissions is crap... and we should worry about other things (not saying that we shouldn't loose total focus of this)
- skyshock1, on 01/03/2008, -0/+5And it will get better again in the future as well. The only thing that's going to destroy the earth is either a huge asteroid collision, or the sun blowing up in a few billion years.
- Tyrghast, on 01/03/2008, -7/+12oh ***** stop it already, global warming is just the hot new religion of the rich and famous...
- crazywarthog, on 01/03/2008, -6/+11Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it.
Adolf Hitler - mOdQuArK, on 01/03/2008, -6/+11Does it matter whether its manmade or not? We'll still be screwed.
- Kallius, on 01/03/2008, -5/+10Obviously people had to have traveled back in time 55 million years, because only people can cause global warming.
- ThyLabyrinth, on 01/03/2008, -0/+41. Google for the list of people in the Council on Foreign relations (CFR) and let it sink in.
2. CFR leaders have said on record that they employ the CO2/Global Warming scare to implement a "Carbon Tax" through the United Nations. That is a global tax on every human being.
The avenue of CO2 scaremongering is perfect because FEAR is so overpowering to people we tend err on the side of caution and cough up the dough anyway.
Global Warming (TM) is a scam to ultimately take away your rights and enslave humanity for the elites.
(=you need to give up your right to "pollute" CO2 to save the earth) WTF? - inactive, on 01/03/2008, -7/+11If you want to blame the recent global warming trend on volcanoes, and I know you desperately want to, you will have to point to a recent increase in global volcanic activity that coincides with the warming trend.
- shauncorleone, on 01/03/2008, -0/+4I'm confused. Without modern currency, how did they sell carbon credits 55 million years ago to save the world?
- KaJuN4, on 01/03/2008, -0/+4Ah so this is the stuff we can't hear over the sound of the eco-environmentalists ignoring all contradicting evidence while they're shoving guilt down our throats.
- rustintable, on 01/03/2008, -0/+4it does not
- lucutus, on 01/03/2008, -1/+5Coincidentally there was much fear mongering over the Japanese mining methane hydrate just before Christmas. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601101&si ...
- iota, on 01/03/2008, -4/+7Welcome to Digg! You're a *****. What incentive is there to NOT at least make a small effort to improve the environment? It can't make things worse, why spend so much personal energy trying to avoid doing the right thing and prove people far smarter and better informed than you wrong?
Additionally, if you can't see what 150 years of industrialization has done to "improve" the environment, go on a tour of your local coal-fired power plant. The technology of 150 years ago, ruining the future of today! - inactive, on 01/03/2008, -6/+9Yes.
- Wolfghost, on 01/03/2008, -6/+9"a global warming increase as a direct result of a rise in carbon dioxide levels"
Inaccurate. Nothing like using half the truth to pimp your cause.
The cause of PETM remains unknown. Increased carbon dioxide levels could be the primary cause, but it is more likely that the increase in carbon dioxide was a secondary effect, making the warming worse. - theOster, on 01/03/2008, -0/+3"it got better"
- djbon2112, on 01/03/2008, -4/+7I won't bury, you speak the truth. People think we put out insane amounts of CO2 and such, but it's NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING compared to the rest of the atmosphere! We may be ***** up with deforestation and smog and such, but we're not going to turn the planet into Venus (as some doomsayers would have you believe)!
- Isidore, on 01/03/2008, -3/+6Rootzooi's joke is important. There is a good correlation between those who deny human-caused climate change and those who deny evolution.
But in the good ole US too many people deny evolution and the real origin of fossil fuels. So they cannot start to understand how CO2 was slowly absorbed by plants over millions of years and locked away in coal and oil. Then in the last 200 years we release a large part of this CO2 back into the atmosphere. CO2 is at its highest for at least 800,000 years. CO2 is a greenhouse gas - easily demonstrated in the lab. Surprised we can change the environment?
Too many in the US are skeptical of mainstream science. The vast majority of climate scientists believe that humans are now a major cause of climate change. All major changes in the past have involved
The issue is a scientific one, based on observations. As individuals we can each study the evidence to post-doctoral level. Or, if we do not have the talent or time the next best thing is to rely on the consensus of those who have studied the matter in depth. If you were ill would you trust a fellow blogger, a wingnut on the internet or someone who studied medicine for many years? If one maverick doctor disagrees with the consensus would you trust your life to them or the majority opinion?
Who are the real experts? Is there enough evidence for them to come to a consensus conclusion? National Science Academies would be a good place to start.
The National Scientific Academies of the following countries issued this statement in support of the IPCC
“The work of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) represents the consensus of the international scientific community on climate change science. We recognise IPCC as the world’s most reliable source of information on climate change and its causes, and we endorse its method of achieving this consensus. Despite increasing consensus on the science underpinning predictions of global climate change, doubts have been expressed recently about the need to mitigate the risks posed by global climate change. We do not consider such doubts justified.”
National Academy of Sciences (US),
Royal Society (United Kingdom),
Chinese Academy of Sciences,
Science Council of Japan,
Russian Academy of Sciences,
Academia Brasiliera de Ciências (Brazil),
Royal Society of Canada,
Académie des Sciences (France),
Deutsche Akademie der Naturforscher Leopoldina (Germany),
Indian National Science Academy,
Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei (Italy),
Australian Academy of Sciences,
Royal Flemish Academy of Belgium for Sciences and the Arts,
Caribbean Academy of Sciences,
Indonesian Academy of Sciences,
Royal Irish Academy,
Academy of Sciences Malaysia,
Academy Council of the Royal Society of New Zealand,
Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences.
Source: www.royalsociety.org/displaypagedoc.asp?id=13619 Royal Society 2001
www.royalsoc.ac.uk/displaypagedoc.asp?id=20742 Royal Society 2005
www.globalwarmingart.com/wiki/Statements_on_Climate_Change For the comments of other scientific bodies.
The scientific evidence and consensus is with the IPCC. Just as the scientific evidence and consensus is for evolution. - thallium205, on 01/03/2008, -1/+4I just built 5 smoke factories
- ISIfunded911, on 01/03/2008, -1/+3Already taken into account by the mathematical models used by the climatologists in the most powerful computers on Earth.
Do you really think they would need these incredibly powerful computers if they factored only one variable: CO2?
You are ignorant. You only want one thing: to keep on driving your polluting car and boarding planes, without guilt. - z3021017, on 01/03/2008, -7/+9Too many dino-farts?
- sp3rmizoid, on 01/03/2008, -0/+2Nah...
Do me a favour?
Quit drinking beer and go get some sleep.
Thanks, - OneLess, on 01/03/2008, -6/+8It was funny. You're not. ***** off.
- vikingcoder, on 01/03/2008, -0/+2Roughly a 100,000 years.
Over a 10,000 to 20,000 year period, between 2000 and 5000 gigatons of carbon in the form of biogenic methane was released into the atmosphere. Sea surface temperatures rose between 5 and 8°C, and in the high Arctic, sea surface temperatures rose to a sub-tropical 23°C, or 73°F.
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/286 ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleocene-Eocene_Ther ... - Alpione, on 01/03/2008, -0/+2*yawn*
- sp3rmizoid, on 01/03/2008, -0/+2Well,
I'm a lumberjack, and I'm okay.
I sleep all night. I work all day.
I cut down trees. I eat my lunch.
I go to the lavatory.
On Wednesdays I go shoppin'
And have buttered scones with tea.
I'm a lumberjack, and I'm okay.
I sleep all night. I work all day.
I cut down trees. I skip and jump.
I like to press wild flowers.
I put on women's clothing
And hang around in bars.
I'm a lumberjack, and I'm okay.
I sleep all night. I work all day.
I cut down trees. I wear high heels,
Suspendies, and a brar.
I wish I'd been a girlie,
Just like my dear Papar.
He sleeps all night and he works all day.
And he jogs in New Jers..ayeee...ayeee.
Etc, etc .... - tomservo51, on 01/03/2008, -0/+2No all the dinosaurs got together and formed something similar to the Kyoto protocol.
- styler5, on 01/03/2008, -1/+3The article is missing some key information. I was interested in estimates of how long it took for the Earth to recover.
- jaradjohnson, on 01/03/2008, -1/+3Pwned.
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